Illegal SC proposals - post them here

by **Sedgistan** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:30 am

It's not a proper operative clause - it needs to actually condemn, not just propose to condemn. It also needs to come from the SC rather than the author, so that's a further R4 violation to add to the personal pronouns.

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:33 am

Sedgistan wrote:It's not a proper operative clause - it needs to actually condemn, not just propose to condemn. It also needs to come from the SC rather than the author, so that's a further R4 violation to add to the personal pronouns.

Thank you for the clarification, Sedgistan!

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:32 pm

Condemn Nugut

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Nugut

Proposed by: WINK NATION

Description: We demand that the region of Nugut be condemned immediately. To give you all knowledge on the topic, Nugut region is a very evil, corrupt region. They constantly terrorize regions, taking control and distort their settings and members. There are regions and countries who have fallen victim to these acts. I have talked to many region leaders and nations, and they all have recalled that at some time or another, their region has been hacked by the region of Nugut. Our region, the Holyland Union, has recently been a victim of their crimes. Just looking at their discussion board shows they are plotting their next act of violence against innocent regions and nations. The very nature of The Black Knights is against everything that the Security Council stands for. That is why I have turned to the World Assembly, asking for your help. Because one day, one of you or your region may fall victim of their hateful behavior. We MUST stop them before they do any more harm. This proposal asks that we ban or destroy the region of Nugut.

Not from the SC's pov, improper operative clause.

by **Bhang Bhang Duc** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:47 pm

R4 violations as well.

by **Kaboomlandia** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:04 pm

The other Nugut condemnation is good.

by **Jean Pierre Trudeau** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:06 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:The other Nugut condemnation is good.

What? This one?

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: great_lexer_1427184714

Condemn Nugut

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Nugut

Proposed by: Great Lexer

Description: Secrutiy Council,

Distressed that the Atrocities of the region Nugut have not been adressed, that of which include but are not limited to:

Raiding and vandalizing active and peaceful regions and communities, disrupting any activities and annexing them under their influence,
Tainting the international community, and discouraging/preventing new regions to participate and take action in the world assembly, and/or smaller communities,

Occupying regions for long periods of time, whilst denying the founder the right to control and organize the region as they see fit,

Posing an international threat to the regions of the world

Appalled by the diplomatic relations formed between Nugut and the already condemned region, the Black Riders

Aware that many members of the World Assembly have been (or still are) subject to this these tyrannic acts

Reminds the World Assembly that the purpose of the Security Council is to spread interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary,

States that the overlooking of this region to invade goes against the very founding purpose of this council

Declares that the region of Nugut shall be condemned for their acts

Illegality underlined.

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:42 pm

Condemn Nugut

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Nugut

Proposed by: U n i t y

Description: This humble nation meekly requests the Security Council to condemn Nugut.

Aware that Nugut. is an offspring of the The Black Riders and participates in raiding that is disastrous to regions.

Distressed that Nugut has never been connected with the vile raids of the The Black Riders which has already been condemned for at the very least, thousands of raids which have ruined regions. Some regions have not required after years of peace while other regions are scarred for life with far stricter border control damaging its growth potential. Nugut has been a key puppet to these acts, these crimes against humanity.

Recognizing that two other proposals to condemn Nugut are on the floor, however they are biased toward Nugut, both of them are leaders of regions dedicated to defeating Nugut and imperialism.

Reminds the World Assembly that raiding or occupying symbolic and defenceless areas is against the very moral fabric of the World Assembly.

Knowing that Nugutis already well-known and notorious, thus this condemnation will not attract potential recruits to Nugut.

States that the Security Council should protect these regions and has the legal right and authority to do so with force. The World Assembly must act swiftly to contain Nugutfrom growing stronger.

Despairing of the chances for passage of this bill since Nugut and its allies possess tremendous influence over the World Assembly.

Knowing that Nugut must be stopped and that morals demand it.

Declares that Nugut for their crimes against humanity.

Concluding that since other condemnations of Nugut are made by imperialist, anti-Nugut countries, this condemnation by a neutral country is best to stop the evil raiders of Nugut from progressing and also to preserve the World Assembly's moral authority.

Not from SC's pov, no operative clause. Does mentioning proposals count as a mention of game mechanics? Also, when your half your proposal is just an explanation of why yours is better than the other two, you really shouldn't have submitted it.

by **RiderSyl** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:49 pm

The above one might also violate the "WA Army" rule with this line:

States that the Security Council should protect these regions and has the legal right and authority to do so with force.

Also, wtf, triple condemning Nugut?

by **Frisbeeteria** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:50 pm

Ridersyl wrote:The above one might also violate the "WA Army" rule with this line:

Not an SC rule, but it's probably still problematic.

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:03 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:The above one might also violate the "WA Army" rule with this line:

Not an SC rule, but it's probably still problematic.

It does fall under rule 3 though, right? It does more than condemn, commend or liberate.

by **Sedgistan** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:29 am

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
Declares that the region of Nugut shall be condemned for their acts

Illegality underlined.

That's not illegal - "their" is actually what we'd recommend authors use.

We Are Not the NSA wrote:Not from SC's pov, no operative clause. Does mentioning proposals count as a mention of game mechanics? Also, when your half your proposal is just an explanation of why yours is better than the other two, you really shouldn't have submitted it.

Correct on the first two points. There's no specific rule against mentioning game mechanics in the SC - some are absolutely fine within Rule 4 (moving regions, passwords) others aren't (posting on forums). Mentioning the submission of proposals to the WA wouldn't violate Rule 4.

Ridersyl wrote:The above one might also violate the "WA Army" rule with this line:

States that the Security Council should protect these regions and has the legal right and authority to do so with force.

Frisbeeteria wrote:Not an SC rule, but it's probably still problematic.

In this case "protect" and "force" can be interpreted as through Condemnations/Liberations, so I wouldn't consider that a violation. As for WA-army rules:

Sedgistan wrote:The old WA-army ruling in the SC should not be considered to apply any more. Proposals can encourage nations to participate in military action, as the above clause does. However, the limits of Rule 3 still apply - i.e. a Liberation cannot do more than just Liberate, so any clause related to military action can't be a strong, binding one - only an encouragement.

by **Kaboomlandia** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:40 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: katipunan_ng_kalayaan_1427682380

Repeal "Condemn Macedon"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#1

Proposed by: Katipunan ng Kalayaan

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #1: Condemn Macedon shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The WORLD ASSEMBLY must repeal this resolution due to the following reasons:

Macedonism is a well-established government ideology practiced by many nations.

Although Macedonism originated in the nation-state of Macedon, the widespread of this ideology is due to the fact that the principles of Macedonism promotes and uplift humanitarian condition.

There is no legal and moral basis to conclude the Macedonism is both dangerous and discriminatory

If we allow to condemn a country because of its ideology, then all of us will be condemning other countries. We must consider the fact that each country has its own ideology.

The colors that represent the nation-region is not distasteful nor grotesque. It is a show of love and respect to their own nation-region.

There is no complaint raised by Lithuania, Belarus, France, Pakistan, Finland and other countries against Macedonia.

Approvals: 1 (Katipunan ng Kalayaan)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

R3.

by **Lucifugus** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:42 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: katipunan_ng_kalayaan_1427682380

Repeal "Condemn Macedon"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#1

Proposed by: Katipunan ng Kalayaan

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #1: Condemn Macedon shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The WORLD ASSEMBLY must repeal this resolution due to the following reasons:

Macedonism is a well-established government ideology practiced by many nations.

Although Macedonism originated in the nation-state of Macedon, the widespread of this ideology is due to the fact that the principles of Macedonism promotes and uplift humanitarian condition.

There is no legal and moral basis to conclude the Macedonism is both dangerous and discriminatory

If we allow to condemn a country because of its ideology, then all of us will be condemning other countries. We must consider the fact that each country has its own ideology.

The colors that represent the nation-region is not distasteful nor grotesque. It is a show of love and respect to their own nation-region.

There is no complaint raised by Lithuania, Belarus, France, Pakistan, Finland and other countries against Macedonia.

Approvals: 1 (Katipunan ng Kalayaan)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

R3.

Katipunan ng Kalayaan and all its regionmates in the United Philippine Territories were created around the same time less than a day ago. Suspicious much?

by **Jean Pierre Trudeau** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:13 am

Lucifugus wrote:Katipunan ng Kalayaan and all its regionmates in the United Philippine Territories were created around the same time less than a day ago. Suspicious much?

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:34 am

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
Lucifugus wrote:Katipunan ng Kalayaan and all its regionmates in the United Philippine Territories were created around the same time less than a day ago. Suspicious much?

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

I think he is accusing Katipunan ng Kalayaan of WA multying.

by **Kaboomlandia** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:24 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: reatheyshire_1427716171

Commend Siburria

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Siburria

Proposed by: Reatheyshire

Description: ACKNOWLEDGING the efforts and contributions that this nation has made in Werewolves of the Flame.

PRAISING the fact that this nation found the egalitarian Chesser Intelligentsia Party

UNDERSTANDING that Siburria is a great warrior aagainst The Black Riders

RECOGNISING this nation as a great force for this site.

HEREBY commends The Chess Federation of Siburria, one of the greatest defenders on this site.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

R4

by **Bhang Bhang Duc** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:33 am

ID: dominion_of_compassion_1427733412

Condemn Ranlop
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Ranlop
Proposed by: Dominion Of Compassion

Description: This condemnation is brought forth in regards to the dictatorship of Ranlop, in order to:
-EXPRESS extreme disgust at how the citizens of that nation are treated.
-VERBALIZE the fear that they've begun searching for ways to intimidate and invade the 10000 islands' territories into compliance with Ranlop's corrupt socialist policies.
-DISPLAY unhidden concern that this nation could potentially join forces with the previously and repeatedly condemned Black Riders to wreak havoc among unsuspecting nations.
-IMPLORE the security council to condemn this nation, Ranlop, to make other nations aware of the impending threat this nation poses.

Approvals: 1 (Sense makers)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 87 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours

R3 - "IMPLORE the security council to condemn this nation"?

by **Kaboomlandia** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:56 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
ID: dominion_of_compassion_1427733412

Condemn Ranlop
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Ranlop
Proposed by: Dominion Of Compassion

Description: This condemnation is brought forth in regards to the dictatorship of Ranlop, in order to:
-EXPRESS extreme disgust at how the citizens of that nation are treated.
-VERBALIZE the fear that they've begun searching for ways to intimidate and invade the 10000 islands' territories into compliance with Ranlop's corrupt socialist policies.
-DISPLAY unhidden concern that this nation could potentially join forces with the previously and repeatedly condemned Black Riders to wreak havoc among unsuspecting nations.
-IMPLORE the security council to condemn this nation, Ranlop, to make other nations aware of the impending threat this nation poses.

Approvals: 1 (Sense makers)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 87 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours

R3 - "IMPLORE the security council to condemn this nation"?

R4 actually, but yes, still R3. No operative clauses to be found here.

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:01 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
R3 - "IMPLORE the security council to condemn this nation"?

R4 actually, but yes, still R3. No operative clauses to be found here.

No operative clause falls under rule 3 not rule 4.

by **Kaboomlandia** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:32 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:R4 actually, but yes, still R3. No operative clauses to be found here.

No operative clause falls under rule 3 not rule 4.

What I meant by R4 is that "IMPLORE the security council" is implying that this isn't written from the perspective of the SC. I noticed the R3 violation.

by **Jean Pierre Trudeau** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:06 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:No operative clause falls under rule 3 not rule 4.

What I meant by R4 is that "IMPLORE the security council" is implying that this isn't written from the perspective of the SC. I noticed the R3 violation.

The Security Council can't implore itself to do something? The General Assembly does it all the time in repeals.

by **Ambroscus Koth** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:28 pm

ID: vroengard_mk2_1427758158

Condemn Nugut
Description: The region of nugut has been well known for its harboring of black riders, the nationstates terrorist group, with it being described as a puppet for black rider operations. this is the main base most black riders return to after raiding other regions. this base needs to be recognized as a threat to the peace and condemned for its multiple felonies against other regions and states

Approvals: 2 (Vroengard mk2, Boram)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 86 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

Rule 3 violations.

by **Kaboomlandia** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:32 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: cresenthia_1427837887

Repeal "Liberate Greece"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#29

Proposed by: Cresenthia

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #29: Liberate Greece shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Whearas, the region of Greece was in the past oppressed.

Whearas, the current World Assembly delegate requires that all World Assembly nation endorse him.

Recognizing, that if the need should arise, Greece could be re-liberated.

Hereby allows Greece to be passworded once again.

Approvals: 1 (Cresenthia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

No "REPEALS" clause.

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:49 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: cresenthia_1427837887

Repeal "Liberate Greece"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#29

Proposed by: Cresenthia

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #29: Liberate Greece shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Whearas, the region of Greece was in the past oppressed.

Whearas, the current World Assembly delegate requires that all World Assembly nation endorse him.

Recognizing, that if the need should arise, Greece could be re-liberated.

Hereby allows Greece to be passworded once again.

Approvals: 1 (Cresenthia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

No "REPEALS" clause.

4b too (him).

by **Kaboomlandia** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:18 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: lavenova_1428027216

Condemn The Black Riders

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: The Black Riders

Proposed by: Lavenova

Description: This is Proposal that the Region Known as [The Black Riders], is going around and endorsing WA delegates that are spy in alliances to have the New WA Delegates Change everything, I propose that We Condemn that Region, and every nation in that Region to stop these raiders. I propose that region delegates be on high alert and maybe get a password to stop these raids from happening. Unless you want to have regions like [Westphalia] where everything is destroyed and you have a serious problem with the region starting to fail. I say to all nations that they vote for the condemnation of the Region Called [The Black Riders].

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 88 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

R2,3,4

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