[DEFEATED] Repeal "Commend Quote of the Day"

[Sedgistan]

The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING that The Quote of the Day (TQOTD) failed to deliver the "quotes of wisdom" in the days leading to the fall of the nation,

POINTING OUT that many nations participate in the same activities described in the minimal commendation of The Quote of the Day, including traveling to regions and leaving quotes of wisdom and congratulations, and that The Quote of the Day is only one of multiple nations that leave such greetings for regions,

ACKNOWLEDGING that TQOTD wrote very minimalistic greetings, and that many messages left by TQOTD contained the same, copied content with a minor salutation,

DISTURBED by the cherry-picking policies employed by TQOTD and the refusal to visit regions that did not agree with TQOTD's policy, and that the original Commendation in question blatantly lies about this point,

NOTING that The Quote of the Day does not perform any unique or special world-changing activities, nor do the actions of The Quote of the Day affect the world or the World Assembly at large,

FURTHER NOTING that TQOTD no longer exists as a nation, and wishing to remove a Commendation from a nation that no longer exists in order to prune the halls of the Security Council,

WISHING TO, instead, pave the way for a future Commendation of the The Featured Region Followers as a whole and refrain from Commending individual members of the aforementioned region,

HEREBY REPEALS Commend The Quote of the Day.

This is being revived in conjunction with an active effort to commend the Featured Region Followers on a whole.

[Frenequesta]

I'm all for repealing SC resolutions that reward the person behind it more than the nation itself. Automatic support.

[Fischistan]

The Quote of the Day (TQOTD) failed to delivery the "quotes of wisdom"

failed to deliver

the fall of the nation

Specify what you mean by this. Did it CTE?

many nations participate in the same activities described in the minimal commendation of The Quote of the Day and that The Quote of the Day is only one of multiple nations that leave such greetings for regions

Make sure to describe what those activities are.

The Quote of the Day does not perform any unique or special world-changing activities

What TQOTD did was unique, that's why he was commended.

[Tim-Opolis]

Support. I never liked that proposal

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Specify what you mean by this. Did it CTE?

Indeed, but I'm not sure if CTE is proposal appropriate.

What TQOTD did was unique, that's why he was commended.

And now, it isn't, so the commendation should be repealed

Grammatical errors and specifics have been adjusted as well.

[Drop Your Pants]

And now, it isn't, so the commendation should be repealed

So if i do something that someone else has done then we have to repeal their commend too? Bugger that.

[Paper Flowers]

And now, it isn't, so the commendation should be repealed

Except that the original commendation never claimed the action was unique, merely that it was worthy of commendation.

RECOGNIZING that The Quote of the Day (TQOTD) failed to deliver the "quotes of wisdom" in the days leading to the fall of the nation,

Was this just in the days immediately prior to the nation ceasing to exist? Or had the nation stopped these activities for a length of time before that?

POINTING OUT that many nations participate in the same activities described in the minimal commendation of The Quote of the Day, including traveling to regions and leaving quotes of wisdom and congratulations, and that The Quote of the Day is only one of multiple nations that leave such greetings for regions,

As I was not around at the time, perhaps someone else could help me on this one, were there other nations doing this at the time of the original Commendation? If not then I don't see how this is particularly relevant. (Just because other people did it later, doesn't mean he shouldn't be commended for doing it first.)

Not quite sure whether I'm for/against this repeal yet, I just don't think the arguments made in it hold much water (looking back at the original debate topic there seem to be some more valid reasons there to repeal this commendation.)

[Warzone Codger]

And now, it isn't, so the commendation should be repealed

Except that the original commendation never claimed the action was unique, merely that it was worthy of commendation.

RECOGNIZING that The Quote of the Day (TQOTD) failed to deliver the "quotes of wisdom" in the days leading to the fall of the nation,

Was this just in the days immediately prior to the nation ceasing to exist? Or had the nation stopped these activities for a length of time before that?

Quote of the Day chose to retire and let his nation CTE with The Featured Region Followers and delivered this retirement speech to them http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=558663 . Before his retirement, he was still delivering Quotes.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Edited once more. I may try a pass at this relatively soon. ^_^

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Submitted!

*returns to vigorous WA campaigning*

[Cromarty]

Does a nations actions have to 'effect the... World Assembly at large' to be commendably?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Does a nations actions have to 'effect the... World Assembly at large' to be commendably?

Yes, otherwise we would be commending everyone for answering issues.

The Guide to the SC states that commendations should be based on the following:

•The Security Council should recognise those whose actions align with the principles of the World Assembly.
•The Security Council should acknowledge those who have a significant/unique impact on NationStates.
•The nominee’s actions need to be immortalized for future generations to learn from.

I believe that The Quote of the Day showed none of those things, nor were the actions of the nation anything extraordinary.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

NAZI EUROPE again?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Revived in conjunction with an attempt to commend the FRF on a whole.

[Paffnia]

Thanks for the link in the OP.

I'm all for the idea of the repeal, but that mention of NAZI EUROPE--is it strictly necessary? To be honest, in his/her place, I would've also skipped the region. There are plenty of other reasons for repeal, but this doesn't sit well with me.

You could also perhaps mention that a commendation of the region TFRF would equally honor TQOTD and his/her compatriots (though I'm not sure how much you are legally allowed to say about a potential future commendation in a reapal of another one).

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

I'm all for the idea of the repeal, but that mention of NAZI EUROPE--is it strictly necessary? To be honest, in his/her place, I would've also skipped the region. There are plenty of other reasons for repeal, but this doesn't sit well with me.

Altered the proposal to read

DISTURBED by the cherry-picking policies employed by TQOTD and the refusal to visit regions that did not agree with TQOTD's policy,

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You could also perhaps mention that a commendation of the region TFRF would equally honor TQOTD and his/her compatriots

I've attempted to address that in the final line, which I believe is vague enough to be rule-compliant.

[Eist]

I don't want to personally attack the linguistic abilities of Skyrim, but I guess it comes with the territory when you put something out for public vote.

I dislike the style of prose and bad grammar in this proposal almost as much as the original commendation. There are so many poorly written aspects here that I won't even begin to go into them. Would it be possible to get someone to co-author this piece who has a better grasp of the English language to clean it up?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

I don't want to personally attack the linguistic abilities of Skyrim, but I guess it comes with the territory when you put something out for public vote.

I dislike the style of prose and bad grammar in this proposal almost as much as the original commendation. There are so many poorly written aspects here that I won't even begin to go into them. Would it be possible to get someone to co-author this piece who has a better grasp of the English language to clean it up?

Specific points being? I do believe my English is fine (granted, I am using a government computer currently, meaning IE and minimal spell-checking abilites )

[Eist]

I don't want to personally attack the linguistic abilities of Skyrim, but I guess it comes with the territory when you put something out for public vote.

I dislike the style of prose and bad grammar in this proposal almost as much as the original commendation. There are so many poorly written aspects here that I won't even begin to go into them. Would it be possible to get someone to co-author this piece who has a better grasp of the English language to clean it up?

Specific points being? I do believe my English is fine (granted, I am using a government computer currently, meaning IE and minimal spell-checking abilites )

RECOGNIZING that The Quote of the Day (TQOTD) failed to deliver the "quotes of wisdom" in the days leading to the fall of the nation,

POINTING OUT that many nations participate in the same activities described in the minimal commendation of The Quote of the Day, including traveling to regions and leaving quotes of wisdom and congratulations, and that The Quote of the Day is only one of multiple nations that leave such greetings for regions,

ACKNOWLEDGING that TQOTD wrote minimal greetings at best, and that many messages left by TQOTD contained the same, copied content with a minor salutation,

DISTURBED by the cherry-picking policies employed by TQOTD and the refusal to visit regions that did not agree with TQOTD's policy,

NOTING that The Quote of the Day does not perform any unique or special world-changing activities, nor do the actions of The Quote of the Day affect the world or the World Assembly at large,

Further Noting that TQOTD no longer exists as a nation, and wishing to remove a Commendation from a nation that no longer exists, much less deserves said Commendation,

Wishing To, instead, pave the way for a future Commendation of the The Featured Region Followers as a whole and refrain from Commending individual members of said region,

HEREBY REPEALS Commend The Quote of the Day.

"quotes of wisdom"

They were not "quotes of wisdom", merrily a quote of the day. You have just assumed the wisdom part.

wrote minimal greetings at best

What do you mean “at best”? Better than what? It’s hyperbole. While we are at it, what do you mean “minimal greetings”? Minimal, to me, requires some sort of baseline or level. For example; “John’s work output was minimal, but just above the level required so that he was not fired.” “Few” would be a better option, in my opinion.

Further Noting that TQOTD no longer exists as a nation, and wishing to remove a Commendation from a nation that no longer exists, much less deserves said Commendation,

This is just grammatically incorrect; it does not logically follow. I think you need to expand on it a bit, and split it into two sentences.

These are just the obvious examples. Personally, I think it needs a complete rewrite, although it should be commended that all of the aspects to a repeal that I can think of are present. The writing is somewhat linguistically awkward, but mostly it is just structured in a way that I do not gel with, not least because it is filled with hyperbole and your own assumptions. It’s fairly inelegant and somewhat unintuitive (as exemplified by the last quote I gave.) I am far from the best writer around here, for example, AMOM’s writing is much better than mine - I love studying his prose style and mechanics - but I think I have a decent eye for what is good, and what is lacking. Either way, I hope that you can see what I am driving at, and, again, I urge you to consider getting a co-author to help.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

They were not "quotes of wisdom", merrily a quote of the day. You have just assumed the wisdom part.

This line refers to original commendation, and is not my own prose, hence the quotations.

What do you mean “at best”? Better than what? It’s hyperbole. While we are at it, what do you mean “minimal greetings”? Minimal, to me, requires some sort of baseline or level. For example; “John’s work output was minimal, but just above the level required so that he was not fired.” “Few” would be a better option, in my opinion.

A fair point, changed to read "ACKNOWLEDGING that TQOTD wrote very minimalistic greetings, and that many messages left by TQOTD contained the same, copied content with a minor salutation"

This is just grammatically incorrect; it does not logically follow. I think you need to expand on it a bit, and split it into two sentences.

Again, a fair point. Removed the last little tidbit.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Submitted as posted in the OP.

[Eist]

Despite my negative responses above, I will be voting FOR this repeal.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Despite my negative responses constructive criticism above, I will be voting FOR this repeal.

There, fixed it. Hopefully this can reach quorum-I'll be sending more TGs later today.

[Drop Your Pants]

I approve of this proposal

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

I approve of this proposal

Now just get reaaaal close to Griffin and whisper "Approve the proposal!"