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You're lucky to have this much. ;)
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Postby Aquilonian Confederation » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:01 pm

May I ask when Nemawashi was developed? I'm thinking of writing up a little response to it in the form of a communique criticising the ideology.

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Postby New Aeyariss » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:16 pm

you still haven't touched the OP since the TGs I sent


Actually I have been on a break from NS for a while.

You're lucky to have this much. ;)


Yeah - I will try to bust your one up as soon as I feel better. My apologies.

May I ask when Nemawashi was developed? I'm thinking of writing up a little response to it in the form of a communique criticising the ideology.


Officially? 1990 after May Events. Unofficially however it sees itself - and sort of is - modern application of writings of Emperor Kogyoku and Shogun Chosokame no Yorimoto (XVI century). In short, Nemawashi does not try to claim to be something new - but rather return to original ideas upon which Nifon was founded.
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Postby McNernia » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:19 pm

King Erin I of Mcnernia the founder of the ancient Macnarin dynasty who united disperate clans and petty Kings postulated that society was built on these things.

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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:37 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
you still haven't touched the OP since the TGs I sent


Actually I have been on a break from NS for a while.

Oh? My sincerest apologies then!

Want me to resend the TGs I sent you - presumably if you've lost them?
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Postby New Aeyariss » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:16 am

Oh? My sincerest apologies then!

Want me to resend the TGs I sent you - presumably if you've lost them?


Thanks, I have them saved ;).
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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Postby Finium » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:36 pm

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Dear Sir or Madame,

This letter is designed to serve as clarification as to the standing of your described ideology in relation to the Church of Finium. If you have received this letter in error or have since repented of known heresies and would like your ideology reexamined by the Royal Inquiry Board, you can write the Board or submit a petition online at our website royalinquiry.imp. Keep in mind that a Royal Inquiry Board ruling does not reflect the ethical standards of the Imperial Censors Office. However, you may use this ruling if you submit this ideology as described for review by the Imperial Censors Bureau. The Board submits a list of ideologies biannually to the Imperial Censors Office with the suggestion approve or censor. You may not be notified in writing if your ideology is censored, so please check censors.gov before attempting to publish, proselytize or otherwise promote.

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Postby Ardoki » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:33 pm

I'm assuming this is a constant work in progress?

Have you thought about adding a change log? I understand that it would be a lot more work (which is a reasonable argument against using it), but it could help everyone (including yourself) track the evolution of Nemawashi.

Anyway, I really enjoy reading your guides and ideologies. They are just so detailed. I wish I had the attention span to write stuff like that.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Also known as El Cuscatlan, Jesus will offer you eternal life if you believe in him!


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Postby Hashirajima » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:56 am

Very nice integration of various moral philosophies. Interestingly, I don't see a LOT of Christian elements other than Jesus as the origin of virtues. Most of the emphasis seems to be on traditional Confucianist virtue ethics, with hints of samurai Bushido.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:25 am

Hashirajima wrote:Very nice integration of various moral philosophies. Interestingly, I don't see a LOT of Christian elements other than Jesus as the origin of virtues. Most of the emphasis seems to be on traditional Confucianist virtue ethics, with hints of samurai Bushido.


I would dare to say that the traditional "Tanzist" (Fictional equivalent to Confucius from Wenchuan) thought has been absorbed by Kogyokist Christianity and quickly assimilated, as happened with Greek Philosophy through such people as Thomas Aquinias or St. Augustine in the West. Those two perfectly supported each other and the second became perfect platform for explaining the first.

Tenrigakism / Kogyokism / Nemawashi has been always a platform for government ideology serving to provide the background for functioning of the state. Kogyokist Christianity always had a role akin to Shinto in RL Japan, but at the same time Buddhism was practiced freely by it's adherents.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Also known as El Cuscatlan, Jesus will offer you eternal life if you believe in him!


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Postby Hyggemata » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:39 am

Confucianism has been one of the most misunderstood ideologies in history; I don't see much of the essence of its principles in your nation.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:27 am

Confucianism has been one of the most misunderstood ideologies in history; I don't see much of the essence of its principles in your nation.


IC wise, I am relying on Tanzism (which is simply a fictional equivalent). That said, Confucianism was never an unitary movement; as both Xunzi and Mengzi had differing ideas, let alone Song era neo-confucianism which was in fact a reaction on Buddhism and used similar line of thinking.

Aside from obvious Christian influences, Xunzi (rather than Mengzi) was the one whose ideas are more in line with those of Emperor Kogyoku.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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Postby Hyggemata » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:39 am

If you interpret Xunzi as "humans are naturally evil", then you're taking him far too simply. Through my personal experience, I am far more inclined to towards Mencius. Nevertheless, Xunzi's theories are more useful in governance, because all sorts of problems happen between humans that can't be explained adequately, and it can be useful to install safeguards against bad behaviour, but as far as human nature is concerned, Mencius is more descriptive than Xunzi.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:03 pm

If you interpret Xunzi as "humans are naturally evil", then you're taking him far too simply. Through my personal experience, I am far more inclined to towards Mencius. Nevertheless, Xunzi's theories are more useful in governance, because all sorts of problems happen between humans that can't be explained adequately, and it can be useful to install safeguards against bad behaviour, but as far as human nature is concerned, Mencius is more descriptive than Xunzi.


IC wise, Emperor Kogyoku would see Mengzi as simply" too idealistic". But at the same time there are huge differences between Xunzi and Kogyoku himself, for example Xunzi's belief that the ethical issues are artificial or his agnosticism.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
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Postby Hyggemata » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:05 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
If you interpret Xunzi as "humans are naturally evil", then you're taking him far too simply. Through my personal experience, I am far more inclined to towards Mencius. Nevertheless, Xunzi's theories are more useful in governance, because all sorts of problems happen between humans that can't be explained adequately, and it can be useful to install safeguards against bad behaviour, but as far as human nature is concerned, Mencius is more descriptive than Xunzi.


IC wise, Emperor Kogyoku would see Mengzi as simply" too idealistic". But at the same time there are huge differences between Xunzi and Kogyoku himself, for example Xunzi's belief that the ethical issues are artificial or his agnosticism.

Ancient Chinese philosophy is very, very deep, especially regarding the dynamic between the individual and society. My IC country has some elements of classical Chinese philosophy as well, as seen in my signature. It's part of the dogma of successive ruling houses: instead of expecting the people's loyalty, provide them with a reason to be loyal (this is very well echoed in the British national anthem, "and ever give us cause"). It is the ruler that must seek the people's support, not vice versa. When good, firm government is combined with the Germanic preference of freedom and some primitive democratic institutions, you have a very livable, sensible state.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:27 pm

Ancient Chinese philosophy is very, very deep, especially regarding the dynamic between the individual and society. My IC country has some elements of classical Chinese philosophy as well, as seen in my signature. It's part of the dogma of successive ruling houses: instead of expecting the people's loyalty, provide them with a reason to be loyal (this is very well echoed in the British national anthem, "and ever give us cause"). It is the ruler that must seek the people's support, not vice versa. When good, firm government is combined with the Germanic preference of freedom and some primitive democratic institutions, you have a very livable, sensible state.


In Nifon I incorporated the idea of some modern scholars of a "tricameral parliament", each representing a different force in history (traditional nobility with hereditary membership, one for the elite of virtue and one elected by popular suffrage).

It is sort of a mix I have been practicing so far, with position of Shogun being only a bit stronger to that of president of the US, although he is not elected and has right to choose his successor. Nifonese government has also 5 branches, with examinative and auditive branches being added to classic judicative, executive and legislative.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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New Aeyariss wrote:
Ancient Chinese philosophy is very, very deep, especially regarding the dynamic between the individual and society. My IC country has some elements of classical Chinese philosophy as well, as seen in my signature. It's part of the dogma of successive ruling houses: instead of expecting the people's loyalty, provide them with a reason to be loyal (this is very well echoed in the British national anthem, "and ever give us cause"). It is the ruler that must seek the people's support, not vice versa. When good, firm government is combined with the Germanic preference of freedom and some primitive democratic institutions, you have a very livable, sensible state.


In Nifon I incorporated the idea of some modern scholars of a "tricameral parliament", each representing a different force in history (traditional nobility with hereditary membership, one for the elite of virtue and one elected by popular suffrage).

It is sort of a mix I have been practicing so far, with position of Shogun being only a bit stronger to that of president of the US, although he is not elected and has right to choose his successor. Nifonese government has also 5 branches, with examinative and auditive branches being added to classic judicative, executive and legislative.

Pilfering much from the ROC? :p
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:38 pm

Pilfering much from the ROC? :p


Yeah, that was the inspiration ;).
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Also known as El Cuscatlan, Jesus will offer you eternal life if you believe in him!


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Postby La Cosa Fedora » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:59 pm

Oh noez! Glorious anime people corrupted by semitic fundie influences!

Your people seem to be in dire need of the truly enlightening Euphoric Bronyism. We offer to airdrop packages of MLP DVDs and our book Serfdom in Equestria: An Expose on how the Liberal Agenda is Slowly Eroding Freedom

For the m'ladies, we will also include body pillows featuring the pretty-boy charms of Richard Dawkins and the rugged good looks of Daniel Dennet.

For the men, we'll drop sone S E Cupp body pillows.

With this urgent assistance, your people can overcome any desert dogma, and become #Euphoric not because of the existence of any phony God, but because they are enlightened by their own intelligence.
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Our state, the League of the Six Free Peoples, is actually controlled by a cartel of neckbeards known as La Cosa Fedora. Members of the cartel are known as Honorable Gentlesirs. Citizens who are not members are known as normies.

Our armed forces are armies of the radicalized romanceless.

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Postby Nipponkoku » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:54 am

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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:38 am

La Cosa Fedora wrote:Oh noez! Glorious anime people corrupted by semitic fundie influences!

Your people seem to be in dire need of the truly enlightening Euphoric Bronyism. We offer to airdrop packages of MLP DVDs and our book Serfdom in Equestria: An Expose on how the Liberal Agenda is Slowly Eroding Freedom

For the m'ladies, we will also include body pillows featuring the pretty-boy charms of Richard Dawkins and the rugged good looks of Daniel Dennet.

For the men, we'll drop sone S E Cupp body pillows.

With this urgent assistance, your people can overcome any desert dogma, and become #Euphoric not because of the existence of any phony God, but because they are enlightened by their own intelligence.


Calling the Nifonese "glorious anime people" is having lack of knowledge about the Nifonese.... There is no "Kawaii" in Nifon. It is a nation that in terms of mentality is in XVII century, culturally more akin to Imperial Japan rather than what you see now, although with religious differences.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Also known as El Cuscatlan, Jesus will offer you eternal life if you believe in him!


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