Your nation's stance on National Socialism

[United Russian State]

Outlawed, and followers are boiled alive...in boiling oil.

deep fried nazi?

Yes. They make for tasty snakes, altough URS they do not sell well, URS has found a number of nations who are willing to eat anything deep fried. We just don't tell them what we deep fried. Most people say they taste like Chicken, so we go with that.

Those ex-nazis of course are cut up into bite size portions for your enjoyment. That and so buyers are unaware they are eating huamn....that might end badly.

[Fatatatutti]

Actually, the greatest scourge to ever scar the face of the planet is the idea that it's okay to kill people who disagree with you.

Okay, so you agree that Communists are a scourage, since every Communist nation has imposed such ideas on their populace.

I never agreed to any such thing. One of the highest principles that we hold dear is that everybody is free to speak his mind without fear of being attacked, whether he's a Nazi or a PETA member or a Scientologist.

[Liberal-Finns]

Our nation is strictly anti-Nazi, however Nazi's are not executed and are allowed to practice their political views like everyone else...

[The Rich Port]

Outlawed, and followers are boiled alive...in boiling oil.

deep fried nazi?

Yes. They make for tasty snakes, altough URS they do not sell well, URS has found a number of nations who are willing to eat anything deep fried. We just don't tell them what we deep fried. Most people say they taste like Chicken, so we go with that.

Those ex-nazis of course are cut up into bite size portions for your enjoyment. That and so buyers are unaware they are eating huamn....that might end badly.

I bet those go GREAT with sandwiches!

[Washington Empire]

As Fascists, we tolerate National Socialism, though many members of the Washingtonian Fascist Party view National Socialism as a stain on the reputation of Fascism.

[The Rich Port]

As Fascists, we tolerate National Socialism, though many members of the Washingtonian Fascist Party view National Socialism as a stain on the reputation of Fascism.

Wow... I actually kinda like you guys. And that's rare. Down with the racism and all that!

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

Outlawed, and followers are boiled alive...in boiling oil.

Our diners would like to purchase the meat, I mean:
Nazis...pigs...bacon?
Also we can't kill the unarmed but nothing regulates eating the already dead...so we'd also like to buy fresh meat for deep fry. Our restraunts can say it's lean pork and we'll deny any involvement with you...and odds are a master race would taste good.

[12 Virs]

We're a feudal empire. What is this "nationalism" and "socialism" that you speak of?

[Reavani]

Technically, by all definitions, Reavani is a tri-nationalist society (Meaning three distinct cultures and races woven into it's strict class system.) Race defines position.

As there is no Democracy, or any real politics in Reavani. Nazism and Socialism as a whole are non-existent, as are such thoughts of Communism or anything but the Imperium.


Though looking at it objectively? Reavani is technically Nazi-Fascist, as they launch wars of aggression, consent to downright genocide of conquered nations, and internally butcher anyone who doesn't agree with the government|stick within the quota for genetic purity.

[Jankenjin]

Our people are suspicious of socialism, regardless of flavor.

[Groter Germania]

Our people are suspicious of socialism, regardless of flavor.

This. Also, National Socialism nearly destroyed Germany, and it took 40 years until Chancellor Klaustein managed to regain the territories once controlled by the Empire of Germany.

[Temeev]

To an extent, Temeev is a 'national socialist' state.

Which is strange, considering the 88% Jewish populace, and the semi-theocratic government.

The economy a corporatist-fascist/socialist situation, in which the government has subsidized large swathes of industry. Furthermore, the government exerts moderate to high social control, and controls some media sources.

So in a way, Temeev has a strange "Jewish Nazism"... to an extent.

[Greater Americania]

To an extent, Temeev is a 'national socialist' state.

Which is strange, considering the 88% Jewish populace, and the semi-theocratic government.

The economy a corporatist-fascist/socialist situation, in which the government has subsidized large swathes of industry. Furthermore, the government exerts moderate to high social control, and controls some media sources.

So in a way, Temeev has a strange "Jewish Nazism"... to an extent.

You hate and want to exterminate yourselves?

[The Rich Port]

To an extent, Temeev is a 'national socialist' state.

Which is strange, considering the 88% Jewish populace, and the semi-theocratic government.

The economy a corporatist-fascist/socialist situation, in which the government has subsidized large swathes of industry. Furthermore, the government exerts moderate to high social control, and controls some media sources.

So in a way, Temeev has a strange "Jewish Nazism"... to an extent.

ZOMG CLUSTERF*** ARRRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[Temeev]

To an extent, Temeev is a 'national socialist' state.

Which is strange, considering the 88% Jewish populace, and the semi-theocratic government.

The economy a corporatist-fascist/socialist situation, in which the government has subsidized large swathes of industry. Furthermore, the government exerts moderate to high social control, and controls some media sources.

So in a way, Temeev has a strange "Jewish Nazism"... to an extent.

You hate and want to exterminate yourselves?

Not really; I was making comparisons to Nazism.

Nazism is, actually, a vary radical leftist/progressive movement (not a classical liberal movement, like Libertarianism, but a Progressive ideology).

The tenets of fascism are:
-Heavy economic regulation (socialism)
-Heavy social regulation (totalitarianism).

To an extent, though not as extreme as Nazi Germany, Temeev lives by those who tenets. Racial motivation is left out of it, however, so Temeev isn't exactly a carbon copy of Nazi Germany. Instead, I suppose Temeev would be a Fascism of sorts, which is run by a Jewish-theocratic state (though the fascism and Judaism are in no way related).

[Greater Americania]

To an extent, Temeev is a 'national socialist' state.

Which is strange, considering the 88% Jewish populace, and the semi-theocratic government.

The economy a corporatist-fascist/socialist situation, in which the government has subsidized large swathes of industry. Furthermore, the government exerts moderate to high social control, and controls some media sources.

So in a way, Temeev has a strange "Jewish Nazism"... to an extent.

You hate and want to exterminate yourselves?

Not really; I was making comparisons to Nazism.

Nazism is, actually, a vary radical leftist/progressive movement (not a classical liberal movement, like Libertarianism, but a Progressive ideology).

The tenets of fascism are:
-Heavy economic regulation (socialism)
-Heavy social regulation (totalitarianism).

To an extent, though not as extreme as Nazi Germany, Temeev lives by those who tenets. Racial motivation is left out of it, however, so Temeev isn't exactly a carbon copy of Nazi Germany. Instead, I suppose Temeev would be a Fascism of sorts, which is run by a Jewish-theocratic state (though the fascism and Judaism are in no way related).

You seem to need a lesson in political science.

National Socialism =/= Nationalism + Socialism

National Socialism = A ideology that supports an anti-Communist Authoritarian regime with the primary goal of preserving or improving the existing racial elements within it's national homeland for the benefit of it's nation. As an integral component of National Socialism, the belief that bad existing racial elements within a people's blood line are a source of national decay is an intrinsic part of National Socialism and it's primary basis.

Socialism =/= heavy economic regulation

Socialism = An ideology that supports radical anti-Capitalism on the basis that it harms the working class internationally. May be both Authoritarian or Democratic, depending on it's many different forms.

Fascism =/= Socialism + Totalitarianism

Fascism = A Nationalist ideology that supports the enforcement of the service of the people to the state, through Authoritarian means. Under such a state, the economy is run by a Corporatist economic system in favor of the state. The duty of the Fascist state, in Fascist ideology, is to serve it's nationality in turn.

[JJ Place]

How does your nation react toward National Socialists or are you a Nazi government?

Hohe Reich is a National Socialist government

Seeing as though JJ Place is located on another planet (Placica); there is no such work or ideological term or group that refers to themselves as "National Socialists". Traslated into our culture, language, and society, however, there are a few extremist ideologies in our nation that would resemple that of a "National Socialistic" ideology. They're completly free to preach they're hateful views, as is everyone, and as a result their ideology is extremly weak and powerless.

Seeing as though JJ Place hasn't had any type of government for over 70 JJPYs (JJ Place Years) it would be rather hard for any ideological groups such as those ideologically close to "National Socialism" to gain any power in the nation, due to the lack of government needed for their cause to take root and spread.

[Greater Americania]

Seeing as though JJ Place hasn't had any type of government for over 70 JJPYs (JJ Place Years) it would be rather hard for any ideological groups such as those ideologically close to "National Socialism" to gain any power in the nation, due to the lack of government needed for their cause to take root and spread.

I would think that would make taking power easier for them, because noone has any power and there's noone to stop them but a disorganized, non-unified, and ill-informed group of pissed off Anarcho-Libertarians.

[Temeev]

I don't need to be educated to your viewpoint.

National Socialism = A ideology that supports an anti-Communist Authoritarian regime with the primary goal of preserving or improving the existing racial elements within it's national homeland for the benefit of it's nation. As an integral component of National Socialism, the belief that bad existing racial elements within a people's blood line are a source of national decay is an intrinsic part of National Socialism and it's primary basis.

National Socialism is not necessarily anti-Communist. The Soviet Union (which was actually a socialist oligarchy) was the ideological ally of Nazi Germany until circumstance led to war. In fact, Geobels himself stated that the differences between Communism and Nazism were 'very slight'; stating that, second only to Hitler, Lenin was the greatest man who had ever lived.

Is it true that National Socialism, historically, has always been practiced with an undertone (actually, a fundamental ideology) of racial prejudice? Yes, it is, but I contest that that is due to the fact that the Nazi and Italian Fascist parties were the infamous practitioners of National Socialism, bring about such a reputation. That being said, I am not a national socialist (I am an objectivist capitalist).

Socialism = An ideology that supports radical anti-Capitalism on the basis that it harms the working class internationally. May be both Authoritarian or Democratic, depending on it's many different forms.

"It harms the working class internationally" - That's an opinion of yours that is without factual credit, unless you're simply stating it on the grounds of laying out what socialist ideology is.

Well, you're partially right. It is true that Socialist Republics have existed; but socialism is inherently authoritarian, as opposed to capitalism, inherently libertarian (anarchic). At the extreme of socialism, there is intrinsically massive economic control, and usually hefty social control (as a result of such economic control). Still the latter is not always the case, though it was so in most major socialist states which came close to communism(Soviet Union, Maoist China, and Nazi Germany. The closest to communist states which ever existed, though none of which were able to completely achieve the 'classless society' of Marxism).

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Yes, it does. The forced subsidization- or any subsidization, for that matter- of the market, combined with increased taxes and wealth redistribution are all central tenets to a socialist state. Socialism, do not forget, is simply the theoretical state of a nation after the proletariat have overthrown the bourgeois; the transition from capitalism to classless Marxism. During this period, the government must be disassembled into a communist system.

So yes, socialism=heavy economic regulation. That is, actually, the fundamental nature of socialism. In this regard, yes, the Nazis were socialists. They subsidized major industries, they controlled the press, and they installed universal healthcare.

Now, the social half of the Nazis' actions weren't necessarily socialist, though some occurred as a result of socialism. A powerful central government and economic subsidization and regulation led to the Nazis' ability to operate propaganda in support of the state; it is only through socialism that they were able to do this.

In this regard, Nazism and fascism are varieties of socialism, the transition into communism. All of these are collectivist ideologies.

Temeev is a sort of 'national socialist' nation to an extent as, though it lacks the traditional racial prejudices, Temeev supports heavy economic regulation, in addition to social regulation achieved through the means of heavy economic regulation.

[Greater Americania]

National Socialism is not necessarily anti-Communist. The Soviet Union (which was actually a socialist oligarchy) was the ideological ally of Nazi Germany until circumstance led to war. In fact, Geobels himself stated that the differences between Communism and Nazism were 'very slight'; stating that, second only to Hitler, Lenin was the greatest man who had ever lived.

Is it true that National Socialism, historically, has always been practiced with an undertone (actually, a fundamental ideology) of racial prejudice? Yes, it is, but I contest that that is due to the fact that the Nazi and Italian Fascist parties were the infamous practitioners of National Socialism, bring about such a reputation. That being said, I am not a national socialist (I am an objectivist capitalist).

Are you serious? You've clearly never read Mein Kampf, where Hitler as National Socialism's effective creator outlines his entire ideology very firmly as a ideology of primarily Scientific Racism (primarily), Authoritarianism, and Nationalism. The only reason National Socialism is named 'National Socialism' is because the German populace during the era of the Nazi Party's rise identified Socialism as a positive thing and Hitler wanted to appeal to the lower classes.

National Socialism is inherently anti-Communist as Hitler explains when he writes and talks about the Jews using Marxism to overturn society and turn the new society into something they can completely dominate. Apparently you do need to be educated. Ayn Rand doesn't know everything.

"It harms the working class internationally" - That's an opinion of yours that is without factual credit, unless you're simply stating it on the grounds of laying out what socialist ideology is.

I'm saying that's how Socialism justifies itself. It wants to overthrow Capitalism because according to Socialism, which is true in the purely laizzez-faire forms of Capitalism, Capitalism is harmful to the common people (particularly the lower classes).

Well, you're partially right. It is true that Socialist Republics have existed; but socialism is inherently authoritarian,

Many democratic forms of Socialism exist today in Europe. Try again.

as opposed to capitalism, inherently libertarian (anarchic). At the extreme of socialism, there is intrinsically massive economic control, and usually hefty social control (as a result of such economic control). Still the latter is not always the case, though it was so in most major socialist states which came close to communism(Soviet Union, Maoist China, and Nazi Germany. The closest to communist states which ever existed, though none of which were able to completely achieve the 'classless society' of Marxism).

One, Capitalism is not inherently Libertarian. Laizzez-faire Capitalism is inherently Libertarian, while the other variants of Capitalism such as the Keynesian variants which have had so much more success in modern times are much more compatible with ideologies that support economic regulation. And massive economic control has proven to be something that is Communist or Socialist in practice, but has little to do with Communism in theory.

Yes, it does. The forced subsidization- or any subsidization, for that matter- of the market, combined with increased taxes and wealth redistribution are all central tenets to a socialist state. Socialism, do not forget, is simply the theoretical state of a nation after the proletariat have overthrown the bourgeois; the transition from capitalism to classless Marxism. During this period, the government must be disassembled into a communist system.

Pure Marxism, which is really the only well defined form of Communism with established theory, doesn't only advocate but also declares that a Proletarian Revolution to overthrow the bourgeois is inevitable. When this Proletarian Revolution has finally occurred, the lower classes will collectively manage the economy via workers' councils or 'Soviets' in Russian. And not necessarily subsidization. Subsidization is unnecessary when the government controls all major industries and when all major industries controlled by the government are owned by the people collectively. Like I said above, these things occur in practice, but were not defined in theory.

So yes, socialism=heavy economic regulation. That is, actually, the fundamental nature of socialism. In this regard, yes, the Nazis were socialists. They subsidized major industries, they controlled the press, and they installed universal healthcare.

Except, as mentioned before, Socialism is about the working classes overthrowing Capitalism and then doing something afterwards that benefits them and runs society equally. Economic management is something that goes along with that theme, and in itself is something that is only a part of the ideology due to it's necessity. The goal and primary basis of Socialism is it's pro-working class leans.

I cite the Communist Manifesto, by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. I also cite The Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844 and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific by Engels.

Now, the social half of the Nazis' actions weren't necessarily socialist, though some occurred as a result of socialism. A powerful central government and economic subsidization and regulation led to the Nazis' ability to operate propaganda in support of the state; it is only through socialism that they were able to do this.

You really need to study Socialist literature before taking Ayn Rand's word on what Socialism is. I don't need to make a response to this because I've already explained everything I would have written above.

In this regard, Nazism and fascism are varieties of socialism, the transition into communism. All of these are collectivist ideologies.

The ignorance of this post is astounding. See above.

Temeev is a sort of 'national socialist' nation to an extent as, though it lacks the traditional racial prejudices, Temeev supports heavy economic regulation, in addition to social regulation achieved through the means of heavy economic regulation.

Keep on telling yourself that. We'll see where it gets you.

[United Russian State]

Outlawed, and followers are boiled alive...in boiling oil.

Our diners would like to purchase the meat, I mean:
Nazis...pigs...bacon?
Also we can't kill the unarmed but nothing regulates eating the already dead...so we'd also like to buy fresh meat for deep fry. Our restraunts can say it's lean pork and we'll deny any involvement with you...and odds are a master race would taste good.

Sales for your diners have been approved. Frist one hundred..."bacons"...are free. We will porvide only the freshest units for you.

We aslo are now offering life size falt nazi cookies [bones, blood, and so on are taken out]. Baked at over 250c inside a huge stone oven, sokaed in melted butter and suger, we can promise it will be the best cookie you have.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

Outlawed, and followers are boiled alive...in boiling oil.

Our diners would like to purchase the meat, I mean:
Nazis...pigs...bacon?
Also we can't kill the unarmed but nothing regulates eating the already dead...so we'd also like to buy fresh meat for deep fry. Our restraunts can say it's lean pork and we'll deny any involvement with you...and odds are a master race would taste good.

Sales for your diners have been approved. Frist one hundred..."bacons"...are free. We will porvide only the freshest units for you.

We aslo are now offering life size falt nazi cookies [bones, blood, and so on are taken out]. Baked at over 250c inside a huge stone oven, sokaed in melted butter and suger, we can promise it will be the best cookie you have.

I'm willing to pay 60 million USD for a yearly supply of your bacon and cookies.

[Diatraba]

We are a communist country - so no nazism or national socialism for us

[Eternal Life with God]

Tolerated as long as they don't incite violence

[Great Lenin]

Fascism is capitalism in decay. So they are enemy of our nation. Enemy of the people.