Infantry Discussion Thread, Pattern 7: Sword Edition.

[Korva]

i feel like robutts are involved

[Vancon]

i feel like robutts are involved

no

[Arkandros]

No point. Simple curiosity as to what kinds of bad would happen.

Well, the M2 Browning turned out pretty well. Then again, HMGs have a lot more engineering leeway than rifles, and the difference between .30-06 and .50 BMG is a lot smaller than the difference between 7.62x39 and your hypothetical lolhueg 195x1000mm rifle round, ignoring the difference in design between rounds for small arms and rounds for cannon.
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[Sevvania]

Found this ole' thing of Sevvs' doing some gravedigging of old threads:

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This was one of my concepts for an early Sevvanian submachine gun. Kinda like American-180 meets Sterling or something.

[Imperializt Russia]

Rifle is fine, they say. Kalashnikov no need configuration of bullpupings, they say.

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Version of standard, with same barrel as usual Kalashnikov. Similarity of handle of carry to that of M-16 is coincidence of pure.
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Version with explosive projectile launcher of underbarrel positionings, chambered for western 40mm NATO grenades.
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Shorter-barreled versionings because for some reason engineers decided standard version wasn't compact enough. Difference is mininal any of way. Either they drank too much vodka-based caipirinhas or they just wanteds reason for put in grip of forwardings.
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Version of compact for vehicle crew and police.
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Version of sound reductions device for sneaky sneaky forces of special.

Looking at it now, the first version kinda looks like a poor man's L85. It might be because i recyceld the handguard from the normal AKs resulting in a somewhat bulky look, plus the round cut of the carry handle totally not stolen from my NotM16A2. Yeah, laziness sucks.

So, i did this because the internet decided it did not want to work anymore and i was somewhat bored. I'm thinking that its story could be an entry for an armed forces competition that resulted in the victory of another rifle, the FA03A4, but it would later find use in police units, militia units and a few special forces units alike (since some SF units are given great leeway when it comes to choosing the stuff they use, and police officers may acquire and use their own weapons).

Why two safety switches, you ask (or maybe not)? Well, since i was a bit worried about how having your safety/fire selector in the rear of the rifle would affect situations where a quick response is needed, i decided to add another safety switch near the pistol grip: this one would block the trigger bar, preventing it from being pushed. Also, for some reason i decided to put gas regulators in the mix, and the cleaning kit was moved from the stock to the pistol grip (albeit being smaller).

Your images seem to be in jpg format, they're a little artefacted.
Watch out for that, it's nice art!

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Would it be possible to completely upsize a weapon and have it still work?

By this, I mean that you take something like an AKM and make everything bigger so that its rounds are a meter long.

Can this be done, or is size important when you're making a gun?

For what it's worth, the PTRS was basically downsized into the SKS.
This is not especially common, remember.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

i feel like robutts are involved

Perhaps.

[Drakeshold-]

How can you people not like swords

There is probably one use left for cold steel weapons in the 21st century. And even that is debatable in the face of a GPMG platoon and three Humvees w/GMG's and M2HB's on the alert and aware of the incoming charge. Otherwise in perfect conditions? Jai Mahakali, Ayo Gorkhali!

[Fordorsia]

So it seems everyone sees my love of swords as the belief that they're still useful combat weapons.

[EsToVnIa]

Some MVD units still use them as of 2008

It's 2015 though D:

So it seems everyone sees my love of swords as the belief that they're still useful combat weapons.

You're trying way too hard by this point. Give it a rest.

[Sevvania]

Rifle is fine, they say. Kalashnikov no need configuration of bullpupings, they say.

Is nice, but I feel like a Romanian-style foregrip would look better on the versions with wooden handguards.

[Immoren]

Now I'll know what I include into my equipment lists,

[Fordorsia]

Some MVD units still use them as of 2008

It's 2015 though D:

So it seems everyone sees my love of swords as the belief that they're still useful combat weapons.

You're trying way too hard by this point. Give it a rest.

What?

[Husseinarti]

I don't even know what that means



So are mosins

Mosins have the ability to kill you from a half mile away and i have heard that some Russians forces still use it. Meanwhile, Swords were obsolete as a weapon as late as ww1 or earlier in the Victorian era.

*sends PUZSIGNAL for help*

A comparable semi-automatic rifle can perform as well as a Mosin in a combat situation.

Mosin was obsoleted the day M1 Garand came out :>>>>>>

ussr a shit

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Now I'll know what I include into my equipment lists,

I'd buy that pipe.

[The balkens]

Mosins have the ability to kill you from a half mile away and i have heard that some Russians forces still use it. Meanwhile, Swords were obsolete as a weapon as late as ww1 or earlier in the Victorian era.

*sends PUZSIGNAL for help*

A comparable semi-automatic rifle can perform as well as a Mosin in a combat situation.

Mosin was obsoleted the day M1 Garand came out :>>>>>>

ussr a shit

Nothing of Value was lost.

[Turkiistan]

So how would you use a M2 Browning in modern combat? I'm assuming it's not used much by infantry, or is it? Is it best to keep the M2 on a vehicle, or can you actually carry it around?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

So how would you use a M2 Browning in modern combat? I'm assuming it's not used much by infantry, or is it? Is it best to keep the M2 on a vehicle, or can you actually carry it around?

On top of a humvee for patrols, or defensively on a tripod.

[Imperializt Russia]

So how would you use a M2 Browning in modern combat? I'm assuming it's not used much by infantry, or is it? Is it best to keep the M2 on a vehicle, or can you actually carry it around?

The USMC ostensibly issued the M2 to a three-man team carrying a 200-round ammunition load. I can't remember if these troops were meant to be mounted or not, because that's a lot of weight.

The M2 is arguably quite overweight. It is probably best kept somewhere like Company where it is under the direction of the company commander, or as part of a weapons platoon of the company if used.

[Husseinarti]

So how would you use a M2 Browning in modern combat? I'm assuming it's not used much by infantry, or is it? Is it best to keep the M2 on a vehicle, or can you actually carry it around?

>M2
>carry it

Well you can, its just hoovy :<

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

So how would you use a M2 Browning in modern combat? I'm assuming it's not used much by infantry, or is it? Is it best to keep the M2 on a vehicle, or can you actually carry it around?

The USMC ostensibly issued the M2 to a three-man team carrying a 200-round ammunition load. I can't remember if these troops were meant to be mounted or not, because that's a lot of weight.

The M2 is arguably quite overweight. It is probably best kept somewhere like Company where it is under the direction of the company commander, or as part of a weapons platoon of the company if used.

Make it out of aluminininium.

[Imperializt Russia]

The USMC ostensibly issued the M2 to a three-man team carrying a 200-round ammunition load. I can't remember if these troops were meant to be mounted or not, because that's a lot of weight.

The M2 is arguably quite overweight. It is probably best kept somewhere like Company where it is under the direction of the company commander, or as part of a weapons platoon of the company if used.

Make it out of aluminininium.

Or, thinking radically here, we could develop either a lightweight .50 machine gun from the ground up, or develop a new "HMG" concept using a lighter cartridge due to the arguably superfluous performance of the .50BMG cartridge for general purpose use. I would say LWMMG takes us close to this point.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Rock hard as I get just thinking about it, an HMG it is not.

[Imperializt Russia]

Rock hard as I get just thinking about it, an HMG it is not.

No, it is not an anti-tank machine gun. HMG is a question of role.
.30 and 8mm guns were "HMGs" in the Great War and before, remember.

[Crookfur]

Make it out of aluminininium.

Or, thinking radically here, we could develop either a lightweight .50 machine gun from the ground up, or develop a new "HMG" concept using a lighter cartridge due to the arguably superfluous performance of the .50BMG cartridge for general purpose use. I would say LWMMG takes us close to this point.

Lighter .50s have been done about a dozen times but saddly none of them have ever stuck either due to lack of funding or the fact that they turned out to be a bit shit or complicated and unrealiable.

The M2 can and has been manpacked throughout its history (the SAS certainly manpacked it up and down mountains in the south of the arabian penisula) but generally speaking most dismounted use of it froma tripod either occurs in fixed fortified positions or not erribly far away froma transporting vehicle.

Its pretty much the same case with the various AGLs, even the russians prefer to move them around in vehicles.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

The LWMMG is a MMG designed to reach ranges in between MMG and HMG, but actually reaches farther in automatica than HMGs reach in single shot. The LWMMG however, has very limited anti-materiel capabilities at similar ranges.


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