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Who Will be the OP of the next Infantry Thread?

Roski
2
3%
Prem (Estovnia)
7
10%
Puzikas
23
34%
Korva
12
18%
Eisarn-Ara
7
10%
Immoren
8
12%
Nirvash Type TheEND
8
12%
 
Total votes : 67

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Nachmere
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Postby Nachmere » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:50 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Nachmere wrote:
Holy crap that must have sucked your entire life energy to make.


svg is a quadrillion times less cumbersome than raster when doing these things actually

it was almost fun

unfortunately vector art is worse for anything else ime

e: notably the computer does all alignment, grouping, spacing, and lets me edit text any time i want

it almost made itself!



i imagined doing it in paint.

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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:19 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:I was thinking it'd be better than a full stocked shotgun for home defence, but pistol grip 12 gauge seemed really painful so I just go with Five-seveN on the bedside table.



Just use a "midlength" AR-15 with a 16" barrel and hollow points or ballistic tips, preferably in the 55-62gr. range. It will penetrate less than typical handguns rounds and shotgun buckshot, but will be more controllable than a handgun, hold thirty rounds (or whatever size mag you want to use), and can more easily have a flashlight and red dot installed.

inb4 but muh one-handed manipulations

Practice. Opening doors while holding an AR isn't hard whatsoever. They're light enough that you can keep it shouldered with one-hand for a decent amount of time, too, if you're corralling children.

That said, to make this on-topic, while Spreewerke does not use AR-series rifles in its military, they are available in the civilian side of firearms use. The most common models have midlength gas systems which reduce felt recoil, reduce wear on parts, and increase the length of the handguards so you're not stuck with the retardedly short carbine handguards.

I don't into AR.
Partly because I'm a leftie.
My gunsafe is in my office which is across from my bedroom, so I'd make my way there with the Five-seveN and then grab P90 which I'm buying soon, or my current M 500.
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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:27 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:I don't into AR.
Partly because I'm a leftie.
My gunsafe is in my office which is across from my bedroom, so I'd make my way there with the Five-seveN and then grab P90 which I'm buying soon, or my current M 500.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viFO0z_C5No

AR series is perfectly compatible with left-handed folks. SIG Sauer makes a completely ambidextrous rifle, anyway, if you're that worried about it.

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Algieristan
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Postby Algieristan » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:28 pm

I'm probably biased because of my father, but for home defense my first choice is the AKM

As I understand it, gun rules regarding automatics are much stricter in the United States and Europe then they are in my home country
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Rhoderberg
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Postby Rhoderberg » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:29 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:I don't into AR.
Partly because I'm a leftie.
My gunsafe is in my office which is across from my bedroom, so I'd make my way there with the Five-seveN and then grab P90 which I'm buying soon, or my current M 500.

Just learn to fire right handed.

Problem solved.

Algieristan wrote:I'm probably biased because of my father, but for home defense my first choice is the AKM

As I understand it, gun rules regarding automatics are much stricter in the United States and Europe then they are in my home country

I have no idea what your home country is, but all you need for fully-automatic firearms in the US is a $200 tax stamp, and you're good to go.
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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:47 pm

Rhoderberg wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:I don't into AR.
Partly because I'm a leftie.
My gunsafe is in my office which is across from my bedroom, so I'd make my way there with the Five-seveN and then grab P90 which I'm buying soon, or my current M 500.

Just learn to fire right handed.

Problem solved.


Again I say, no.
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Rhoderberg
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Postby Rhoderberg » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:51 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:
Rhoderberg wrote:Just learn to fire right handed.

Problem solved.


Again I say, no.

Why.
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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:55 pm

Rhoderberg wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:
Again I say, no.

Why.

Because I've not the time to retrain myself to the point I'm at with my left hand. I don't have much time to shoot anyhow and It'd take months to relearn.
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The Great Nation of Dan
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Postby The Great Nation of Dan » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:09 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:Because I've not the time to retrain myself to the point I'm at with my left hand. I don't have much time to shoot anyhow and It'd take months to relearn.


Shoot both handed. Practice with nerf guns and other pieces of random plastic that left-winged democrats will complain about for years and years to come. If there is a will there will always be a way.
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=343502&p=25031584#p25031584


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Saethland
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Postby Saethland » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:19 am

Our main service rifle is basically the AK4 for maximum efficiency in removing te dwolmann
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:33 am

Rhoderberg wrote:
Nachmere wrote:
Wow, why? (I dont know the answer but i am just curious as to why)

Because I'm seriously considering drawing a Tsavonian combat shotgun that uses an action based on the Maxim's toggle locking, but don't want to give up the ability to fire specialist shells.

You don't need a pump-action mode. You just need a device that locks the action in place on firing, and then rack the charging handle to unload the shell.
I suppose weapons like the SPAS-12 used a pump-action mode because it's A, familiar and B, probably more ergonomic to use than manually cycling an automatic action.
Greater United American Republics wrote:My fellow Citizens, I did come to an idea of just what would work for the loyal servants of the Lady Columbia.

(Image)

Just using .264 Pederson (Duplex cartridges of course) and without that silly bipod.

Maybe backed up by two or three of these Democracy delivery devices per infantry section?

(Image)

Why without the bipod? Bipods are useful, don't diss.
Korva wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
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The NTW, MILAN and Komar are hot as fuck.
Gallia- wrote:Infantry related, this has infantry in it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... vcorps.svg

Nope, sorry, there are things that aren't infantry, I'm afraid this is actually "People & Scenes".
You're going to have to resubmit.
Rhoderberg wrote:
Algieristan wrote:I'm probably biased because of my father, but for home defense my first choice is the AKM

As I understand it, gun rules regarding automatics are much stricter in the United States and Europe then they are in my home country

I have no idea what your home country is, but all you need for fully-automatic firearms in the US is a $200 tax stamp, and you're good to go.

And the fifteen grand to buy the weapon (or part!) itself.
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Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Gallia-
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:05 am

Nachmere wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
svg is a quadrillion times less cumbersome than raster when doing these things actually

it was almost fun

unfortunately vector art is worse for anything else ime

e: notably the computer does all alignment, grouping, spacing, and lets me edit text any time i want

it almost made itself!



i imagined doing it in paint.


i tried that once

it was about as bad as youre imagining

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Gallia-
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:05 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Rhoderberg wrote:Because I'm seriously considering drawing a Tsavonian combat shotgun that uses an action based on the Maxim's toggle locking, but don't want to give up the ability to fire specialist shells.

You don't need a pump-action mode. You just need a device that locks the action in place on firing, and then rack the charging handle to unload the shell.
I suppose weapons like the SPAS-12 used a pump-action mode because it's A, familiar and B, probably more ergonomic to use than manually cycling an automatic action.
Greater United American Republics wrote:My fellow Citizens, I did come to an idea of just what would work for the loyal servants of the Lady Columbia.

(Image)

Just using .264 Pederson (Duplex cartridges of course) and without that silly bipod.

Maybe backed up by two or three of these Democracy delivery devices per infantry section?

(Image)

Why without the bipod? Bipods are useful, don't diss.
Korva wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
(Image)

The NTW, MILAN and Komar are hot as fuck.
Gallia- wrote:Infantry related, this has infantry in it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... vcorps.svg

Nope, sorry, there are things that aren't infantry, I'm afraid this is actually "People & Scenes".
You're going to have to resubmit.
Rhoderberg wrote:I have no idea what your home country is, but all you need for fully-automatic firearms in the US is a $200 tax stamp, and you're good to go.

And the fifteen grand to buy the weapon (or part!) itself.


technically galla has no infantry

everyone is part of te cavalry arm

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:11 am

IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Korva
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Korva » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:31 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Nope, sorry, there are things that aren't infantry, I'm afraid this is actually "People & Scenes".
You're going to have to resubmit.

This triggers the Korva.
Gallia- wrote:i tried that once

it was about as bad as youre imagining

That is half the reason the Korvan Land Forces are as small as they are :O

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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:37 am

Korva wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Nope, sorry, there are things that aren't infantry, I'm afraid this is actually "People & Scenes".
You're going to have to resubmit.

This triggers the Korva.

I sexually identify as a drop-in sear.
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Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:09 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Rhoderberg wrote:I have no idea what your home country is, but all you need for fully-automatic firearms in the US is a $200 tax stamp, and you're good to go.

And the fifteen grand to buy the weapon (or part!) itself.


M2 Carbines and MAC-11s, etc., are in the $5k-$6k range.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:19 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:And the fifteen grand to buy the weapon (or part!) itself.


M2 Carbines and MAC-11s, etc., are in the $5k-$6k range.

In fairness those are American weapons built in vast numbers pre-1986. The M2 especially.
I'll admit I don't exactly watch the market, but a lot of rifles, particularly import are nearer the 10-30 thousand range, aren't they? I've commonly seen AR-15s/parts, as well as G3s as 15-30.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Yukonastan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:57 am

Or just get the right class of FFL so you can buy the new ones.
this guy is a fucking furry and a therian
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:59 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Rhoderberg wrote:I have no idea what your home country is, but all you need for fully-automatic firearms in the US is a $200 tax stamp, and you're good to go.

And the fifteen grand to buy the weapon (or part!) itself.

Don't you savages have shoestrings?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:01 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:And the fifteen grand to buy the weapon (or part!) itself.

Don't you savages have shoestrings?

Didn't the shoestring only work for a particular rifle?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:02 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Don't you savages have shoestrings?

Didn't the shoestring only work for a particular rifle?

I would tell you but I'm not a fan of getting black bagged so I'm not googling it. : ' )
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:03 am

Why, you don't live in a country where the support of ownership of firearms is demonised.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:08 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Why, you don't live in a country where the support of ownership of firearms is demonised.

muh child killin automatics tho
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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:10 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Why, you don't live in a country where the support of ownership of firearms is demonised.

muh child killin automatics tho

Exactly.

That is the problem exactly.
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