Do real-world religions apply in your nation?

[Bubba Reb]

It's kinda easy for me. My nation is a Christian nation.
Isreal has suffered loss of their homeland for many years, having it, losing it etc. So for me, its easy to RP that the the biblical events happened just as written. Many of the places of the bible are under different names now, passing through many hands.

For my nation, I'm fine with RPing what happened, as its written biblically, and just simply know that place names change, and even are called by different names by different people at the same time.

So nation A occupies what once was Jerusalem, and their canon claims it was called "Nationstateslandia" back then. No biggie.
The hebrews of 2000 years ago had names for places that the Romans and others called something different. Same thing for NS.

Romans claimed certain Biblical events didnt happen too. So I dont care if every nation in my region were to claim they didnt either.

"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."
Is Biblical scripture.

Well, I say "as for Bubba Reb and my nation, we will serve the Lord."

People get their panties in a bunch in RL anyway, atheists, and other religions, claiming Bible isnt true.

Big deal. Just because they say its not, doesnt mean its not.

Same with RP, cannon etc.

Besides, its RP, not RL encyclopedia Britanica.

You are writing YOUR nation, and its history. Not everyone elses. If every detail doesnt line up perfectly, who cares.

That doesnt even happen in RL.

There are still people claiming the Holocaust never happened, writing history differently. Some claim the moon landing was a hoax.

Well if the same thing happens in RP, .... big fat hairy deal.
My nations history and canon doesnt have to match perfectly to what eveyone else says happened.

Hard numbers and such that actually effect others yes.
What my nation believes, no.


If i claim to have nine hundred trillion marines, and all of Atlas says I only have one million, then I have one million.

If all of Atlas were to ever say calvary never happened, they could shove it in their ear. In my nation, that history happened no matter what others claim.

[Olwe]

Well, to answer your actual question rather than the which-religions-exist one, I made Olwe's ancient history occur on real-world Earth. So the old proto-Olweans -- the Athanese -- were the people being persecuted during the Inquisition, i.e. magic-users, and therefore Olweans still despise Christians and Muslims to this day.

Of course, since Olwe is FT it's easier for me to justify this... if you want your nation to exist in a more MT setting, I can't help you.

[Esperantujo 2]

Religions existing in Esperantujo 2:
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (I don't think that exists in the outside world. It is the only religion recognised as a mass organisation).
The Gay Church of Jesus and John (Christianity but not as you know it. Generally disapproved of).
It's also believed that we have a small number of Jews, but they have a very low profile. There are no synagogues or anything of that kind.
Whether the Charma people have religious beliefs is unknown.
The teaching of religion to people under the age of 13 is against the law. Be warned!

[Iltica]

They're real, Unless Nova Historiae is doing a thing that changes the timeline from an extremely far back point.
However, the 3 most popular monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are prohibited, as the government considers them too divisive. Of course, many don't see it that way and continue to practice monotheism in secret.

[Liberty and Alderney]

All the dominant religions exist here as they do in real life. However, fringe cults tend to be reflected in parody versions of themselves e.g. The Epsilon program is Scientology.

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

No. Earth does not even exist in my nation's universe. There are different fictional religions that are practised.

[Yashintekina Shogunate]

In the Shogunate, RL religions exist and are in fact the only ones present as of now. Most are irreligious, with Shinto Buddhism not far behind and other religions, the most popular of which is Christianity, followed by Islam and then various Pagan religions before any others.

In short, yes.

EDIT: Just read OP properly. The reason for it is that this nation is inspired by real life Japan, and this similar religious ideas sprung up. The equivalent for India/Indochina in my region is nearby, they sailed here, shared their religion and it became popular, supporting the warrior culture of traditional Yashinese. I suppose I don't really know why else, so I will leave such details up the imagination given my lack of knowledge on the topic.

[Kraslavia]

No. Earth does not even exist in my nation's universe. There are different fictional religions that are practised.

Here pretty same :3
In our region (C.O.G.) we get one decision - we dumped all Earth history and geography. So religions too. But seriously - it boosts creativity :3

[Arcanda]

I don't think I understood your question, but here's my answer.Whether with this nation or puppets, I've nearly always played on realistic earth maps- And thus adopt concept much similar to what we can find IRL.

[Liberated Joseon]

Yes, and rather comfortably. My nation is basically the Result of a Revolution taking place in North Korea, so it's rather recent.
However, in my history, the new state that rose adopted the Traditional Shamanism of the Korean Peninsula as it's Official Religion, however without any persecution of minority religions (ergo: religious freedom).

The majority of people are followers of Gosindo, "Way of the Ancestral Gods", which is Korean Shamanism. Buddhism, and Christianity are also present in fairly sizable numbers, as is irreligious thought... However, Confucianism has been undermined a bit, while Traditional Beliefs have crept into many facets of other religion's practices due to government promotion.

[Brellach]

Greetings, fellow nations of the world! To you I pose a less-than-simple question: Do real-world religions (I.e. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.) apply within you IC canon?

None operate in Brellach except for their own belief system (the Church of Her Divine Glory), but as most other nations use them Brellach is forced to acknowledge their existence, at the very least.

Let me elaborate. Let us say that you are, hypothetically, a MT nation with Islam as a predominant religion. You reside in a region full of other Islamic nations, as well as a smattering of predominantly Christian nations. Your concept of time is completely different from that of the real world. Rome never existed. The continent Gondwana never split. Did Muhammad ever receive revalations from the Angel Gabiel? Was Jesus ever nailed to a cross? If so, where and when did these religious figures do their storied deeds? How do you reconcile religions so deeply entwined with Earth's past with your own?

I think this is a long-standing issue with NS RP that goes beyond RP. Languages, for example; where did English come from without England? If it's an example of convergent language development (i.e. it evolved in isolation and is bizarrely identical to English in every way), why do we still call it English? This extends to the different ethnicities and cultures used across NS too - some nations claim to have peoples of European or African descent, while not really accepting the existence of these continents.

Even things like idioms, military technology (the value of aircraft carriers was learned during WW2, for example), people's names... virtually everything we do, say, and have is the product of our history and culture, history and culture which, depending on who you ask, didn't happen in NS canon.

Other people do, in fact, include the 'real world', as sort-of NPC characters that never really appear anywhere. You can see this in International Incidents, with the myriad (often new) players invading real-world countries. This doesn't explain where, exactly, the rest of us - whose countries do not always conform to any real-world boundaries - lie in the world. And then there are the nations which do occupy real-world countries; they are rarely the only ones to do so, and we end up with the situation where there are many nations of exactly the same size and shape, all with similar peoples and cultures living in them. It's maaadness!

As with all these examples, I think we just have to say things are the way they are 'just 'cause'. Suspension of disbelief and all that!

[Oshtraya]

My nation has its own religion which relates to its own national recorded history. People are allowed to practice their religious beliefs but the national religion holds a lot of power. So yeah theres a sense of mutual respect for religions to an extent. You would have to read my nations fact book over view to get a better picture. Our national religion is the Meraidian Faith.

[Kuzbeckistan]

If the motto isn't already obvious then yes, RL religions do exist. The Government however is secular despite what some might take as "Odd" of a middle eastern country to do. A policy of freedom of religion is existent and due to it Kuzyria hosts a diverse range of religions living together in stability.
The largest religion in Kuzyria is Sunni Islam followed by Shiite islam, Alawite and Twelvers are common. Hafez Al-Yusuf and a lot of Alawites hold high positions in the nation. Christians are next, mainly orthodox ones followed by copts and Assyrians. Other religions include Yadizi and Druze.
Kuzyria has been significant when it comes to Islam due to the fact that is plays a major role in the spread of Islam.

[Autem Galacticus Nexum]

Most of them are extinct, except for futuristic Christianity (Futarism).

Futarism is the state religion of the Galacticus Nexum.

[The New Dog Nation]

What is this "Real" world you speak of?

But to answer your question, Yes, many of the "Real World" religions do exist here, but they are not that common.

We even have a pope:

[Free Pejite]

Yes, especially since Pejite exists in an alternate timeline of RL Earth.

In its history, Pejite was part of both Mesopotamia and Persia (the east falling into some parts of modern Iraq, and most of the rest falling into modern-day Khuzestan province of Iran). Being conquered or ruled by the Persians, Mesopotamians, Romans, Greeks, Ottomans and British, Pejite would adopt Christianity, Islam and even others like Zoroastrianism, Ancient Roman and Greek religions, Protestantism, and Buddhism.

[Grandais]

PLEASE read the full question before you reply! This is a much more complex question than it may seem.

Greetings, fellow nations of the world! To you I pose a less-than-simple question: Do real-world religions (I.e. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.) apply within you IC canon?

Let me elaborate. Let us say that you are, hypothetically, a MT nation with Islam as a predominant religion. You reside in a region full of other Islamic nations, as well as a smattering of predominantly Christian nations. Your concept of time is completely different from that of the real world. Rome never existed. The continent Gondwana never split. Did Muhammad ever receive revalations from the Angel Gabiel? Was Jesus ever nailed to a cross? If so, where and when did these religious figures do their storied deeds? How do you reconcile religions so deeply entwined with Earth's past with your own?

I have not been able to figure out a reliable system for transferring religions into my history. This thread is posted partially in order to help me figure out what place religions have in Ceneria's past. That said, I hope that it can help others reconcile religion with their pasts as well.

Happy Easter! I look forward to seeing what you choose to write!

Edit: If this thread belongs in the Gameplay sub-forum instead of F&NI, I would be much obliged if you would request it be moved. Thank you!

I assume your question is, 'did the events as described in religious canon actually happen in your nation?'

[Bubba Reb]

Greetings, fellow nations of the world! To you I pose a less-than-simple question: Do real-world religions (I.e. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.) apply within you IC canon?

None operate in Brellach except for their own belief system (the Church of Her Divine Glory), but as most other nations use them Brellach is forced to acknowledge their existence, at the very least.

Let me elaborate. Let us say that you are, hypothetically, a MT nation with Islam as a predominant religion. You reside in a region full of other Islamic nations, as well as a smattering of predominantly Christian nations. Your concept of time is completely different from that of the real world. Rome never existed. The continent Gondwana never split. Did Muhammad ever receive revalations from the Angel Gabiel? Was Jesus ever nailed to a cross? If so, where and when did these religious figures do their storied deeds? How do you reconcile religions so deeply entwined with Earth's past with your own?

I think this is a long-standing issue with NS RP that goes beyond RP. Languages, for example; where did English come from without England? If it's an example of convergent language development (i.e. it evolved in isolation and is bizarrely identical to English in every way), why do we still call it English? This extends to the different ethnicities and cultures used across NS too - some nations claim to have peoples of European or African descent, while not really accepting the existence of these continents.

Even things like idioms, military technology (the value of aircraft carriers was learned during WW2, for example), people's names... virtually everything we do, say, and have is the product of our history and culture, history and culture which, depending on who you ask, didn't happen in NS canon.

Other people do, in fact, include the 'real world', as sort-of NPC characters that never really appear anywhere. You can see this in International Incidents, with the myriad (often new) players invading real-world countries. This doesn't explain where, exactly, the rest of us - whose countries do not always conform to any real-world boundaries - lie in the world. And then there are the nations which do occupy real-world countries; they are rarely the only ones to do so, and we end up with the situation where there are many nations of exactly the same size and shape, all with similar peoples and cultures living in them. It's maaadness!

As with all these examples, I think we just have to say things are the way they are 'just 'cause'. Suspension of disbelief and all that!

I agree here. There is no avoiding RL influences in RP. If we get so focused on details and "proper" canon, we do so at the expense of RP.
Some things are, simply because they are, and there is no explaination.

[Bubba Reb]

PLEASE read the full question before you reply! This is a much more complex question than it may seem.

Greetings, fellow nations of the world! To you I pose a less-than-simple question: Do real-world religions (I.e. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.) apply within you IC canon?

Let me elaborate. Let us say that you are, hypothetically, a MT nation with Islam as a predominant religion. You reside in a region full of other Islamic nations, as well as a smattering of predominantly Christian nations. Your concept of time is completely different from that of the real world. Rome never existed. The continent Gondwana never split. Did Muhammad ever receive revalations from the Angel Gabiel? Was Jesus ever nailed to a cross? If so, where and when did these religious figures do their storied deeds? How do you reconcile religions so deeply entwined with Earth's past with your own?

I have not been able to figure out a reliable system for transferring religions into my history. This thread is posted partially in order to help me figure out what place religions have in Ceneria's past. That said, I hope that it can help others reconcile religion with their pasts as well.

Happy Easter! I look forward to seeing what you choose to write!

Edit: If this thread belongs in the Gameplay sub-forum instead of F&NI, I would be much obliged if you would request it be moved. Thank you!

I assume your question is, 'did the events as described in religious canon actually happen in your nation?'

I think the question is actually more like: "How do you address the issue of religion in your nation, seeing as how some or all of the places/people/names did not exist in your world?" (IE How can "Buddism" exist in your nation, if there never was a "China" in your world? So what method or reasoning do you use to explain that?)

It does seem that most who responded saw the question as: "What are the religions in your nation?"

[Fatatatutti]

In Fatatatutti, religion is hardly on the radar at all. Many of our recent immigrants bring their religions with them but they have no effect on Fatatatutti ICly. We concede that religions exist but we don't care whether they are "real world' or not.

[Byzantium Imperium]

Roman Orthodox Christianity is the predominate (and state) religion of the Roman Republic and its Empire. It is a combination of many Christian sects into one single church rather than a single real world view of Christianity. It is based extensively on Orthodoxy (hence the name), Nestorianism and a notable lack of a Catholic-Orthodox Schism; there is an independent Coptic Church, this is considered a Pentarch of the Orthodox Church however. The religion of Islam is shaped differently than that of reality's, but remains 'Islamic', the largest sect of Islam on Rostil (the planet this Rome is on) is Ibadism, by comparison Sunni and Shia are barely heard of, though they do exist. Judaism is Temple Judaism, as the Kingdom of Lachish which is 'Israel', never fell into darkness. The Kohen Gadol still oversees the Hebrew Faith and they still adhere to the Old Covenant. Hinduism exists in the nation of Mahabarata in the far east and is not very changed from its real counterpart as Mahabarata is "India". Likewise, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism can be found in Mahabarata and elsewhere with little deviation save to account for local histories. Ji Tian/Chinese Heaven Worship is the state religion of Zhong Wenming our "China", and Daoism, Confucianism and Legalism all exist in great number, with Confucians in the lead. Shinto is found in the Empire of the White Sun, and is the state religion there. Various Native American ethnic religions that are bordering on extinction in the real world can be found in great numbers in the Federated States of California, "America", which is dominated not by Anglo-American settlers but by Aborigines. Likewise traditional beliefs of the Mayan and Inca people can be found (along with them!) in the nation of San Cristobel. All of these religions aforementioned can on some level be found in Rome.

Which is way more detailed than I think you were asking but there's the whole planet in its relation to religions. xD

[Tafhan]

The religion of my nation is not real. However some real world religions exist but are altered because of the alternative timeline.

Islam, on the Sunni side has gone through reform after the coming of the Mahdi, including laws regarding How to conduct prayer in space and declaring Hindus and Buddhists as people of the book. It is commonly referred to as High Islam, because of its followers believing that it has begun to reach its full potential.

A new religion has formed from the Shi'a circle known as The Revelations of Hassan I -Sabbah, it is the main minority religion in Tafhan.

Christianity has gone through changes of its own, The Habaline Church, A church preaching Christian theology similar to The old Cathars, has become increasingly popular.

The Roman Catholic Church remains very commonplace. Congregations mixing Buddhist and Christian teaching are also very popular.

[GOMPF]

GOMPF worship the great invisible badger in the sky that provide them with their every need. We aren't too sure about other religions, they're strange to us.

[Rhodevus]

In Rhodevus, and as a whole; the region of Sunalaya, RL religions are all real, but tweaked to fit with our very different map.

So, as an example, yaramaqui and I are designing judaism to fit the region. Yaramaqui replaced Israel as the birth place of judaism, mt Sinai became the MountajnMountain of the Matriarchs, and the western wall was replaced with a cave.

most of the ancient biblical history is the same but with different names. Modern religious history is drastically changed. And this is true for all major religions in sunalaya.

[Altarian Combine]

Religious people are practically nonexistent in the Combine, and real life religions make up an insignificant fraction of that.

As for the OPs question, I'd say the answer is the same as to why tens of thousands of nations exist on one planet: The Multiverse. There could easily be several different incarnations of Jesus, Muhammad and Buddha, some who did exist in nations similar to real ones, some who sprung up in completely different places, and some who were intelligent velociraptors.