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Do you support East Veria's Slave-Trade and Slavery-Legalization Law?

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 83

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Gig em Aggies
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:58 pm

The Supreme Order of Divinity wrote:We have decided to end the misery of the lives of these slaves. We have authorized nuclear force against concentrated slave populations areas.

His Majesty finds this to be an ideal solution to a stubborn state.

Now hold on instead of irradiating the populace and the ones were trying to free why not capture the entire government of East Veria and force them into involuntary servitude? Eh we could do a lease type of deal where you keep them for a set amount of time then they transfer over to the next nation involved in the liberation force.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
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Postby The Supreme Order of Divinity » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:37 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
The Supreme Order of Divinity wrote:We have decided to end the misery of the lives of these slaves. We have authorized nuclear force against concentrated slave populations areas.

His Majesty finds this to be an ideal solution to a stubborn state.

Now hold on instead of irradiating the populace and the ones were trying to free why not capture the entire government of East Veria and force them into involuntary servitude? Eh we could do a lease type of deal where you keep them for a set amount of time then they transfer over to the next nation involved in the liberation force.


Interesting. Does any nation have any intel on the status of East Veria's military?

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Postby Otulia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:49 pm

I imagine that, with 31% of their population being slaves (by today's figures), economic measures should be sufficient to get those 85 million people angry and on the move, towards overpowering their masters. Further, the sheer unrealisticness of this entire RP implores me to ask everyone involved to please read the stickies.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:06 pm

Otulia wrote:I imagine that, with 31% of their population being slaves (by today's figures), economic measures should be sufficient to get those 85 million people angry and on the move, towards overpowering their masters. Further, the sheer unrealisticness of this entire RP implores me to ask everyone involved to please read the stickies.

We all know to read the stickies but if your not gonna contribute to the RP even if it's not well done then don't respond it's stupid that you come in here saying read the stickies for your info their a guide and their not mandatory to follow the OP of this Rp has not said anything about it being realistic if how ever he plays we play I know how to rp realistic but I also enjoy doing rp's like this. I suggest you let us have at rp and if a mod comes in then let him or her deal with us.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Middle Oceania » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:53 pm

The Empire of Oceania, which has practiced slavery since the 15th century, and whose economy relies in part on a slave trade, is glad to hear of the success of a fellow slave-nation (though we do hate to see competition in the market grow). The Emperor sends you his person congratulations, and will offer limited financial aid to you in the event of a war with bleeding heart states.

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Postby Caribica » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:11 pm

20 million Caribican Naval infantrymen with amphibious vehicles storm the beaches of East Veria today and 1 million paratroopers have landed inland to invade. The 1st and 4th armies are now pushing inland with armored support, freeing slaves and liberating towns. FOB Sierra has now been established and General Santana of the expeditionary force has moved quarters to there. Strike aircraft now begin attacking military bases in the country. Several Caribican missile cruisers have begun firing on millitary bases as well.
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Postby The Celestial Flame » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:24 pm

To clarify are these slaves biological or mechanical constructs?
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Postby Caribica » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:26 pm

The Celestial Flame wrote:To clarify are these slaves biological or mechanical constructs?

Most likely biological

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:20 pm

Caribica wrote:
The Celestial Flame wrote:To clarify are these slaves biological or mechanical constructs?

Most likely biological

Behind the Caribican Forces the members of the Aggie Home Guard mop of any resistance and move any people surrendering into POW Camps in allied controlled areas of East Veria for later transport to carry out prison terms in federal facilities across the nations of the alliance. the Home Guard leaves the slaves and protesters for the Aggie Army to mop up. Special camps for the slaves have been set up in several areas near the coast to house feed and cloth the surviving slaves with the eventual transport off world to a remote habitable planet to form their own society.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Caribica » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:08 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Caribica wrote:Most likely biological

Behind the Caribican Forces the members of the Aggie Home Guard mop of any resistance and move any people surrendering into POW Camps in allied controlled areas of East Veria for later transport to carry out prison terms in federal facilities across the nations of the alliance. the Home Guard leaves the slaves and protesters for the Aggie Army to mop up. Special camps for the slaves have been set up in several areas near the coast to house feed and cloth the surviving slaves with the eventual transport off world to a remote habitable planet to form their own society.

President Gomez authorizes these actions but only asks that the slaves be asked if they wish to leave for another planet. In the meantime construction has begun on a beachside POW camp named Nueva Perspectiva and Armored forces under General Santana have driven deeper into the East Verian coastal plains.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:17 pm

Caribica wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Behind the Caribican Forces the members of the Aggie Home Guard mop of any resistance and move any people surrendering into POW Camps in allied controlled areas of East Veria for later transport to carry out prison terms in federal facilities across the nations of the alliance. the Home Guard leaves the slaves and protesters for the Aggie Army to mop up. Special camps for the slaves have been set up in several areas near the coast to house feed and cloth the surviving slaves with the eventual transport off world to a remote habitable planet to form their own society.

President Gomez authorizes these actions but only asks that the slaves be asked if they wish to leave for another planet. In the meantime construction has begun on a beachside POW camp named Nueva Perspectiva and Armored forces under General Santana have driven deeper into the East Verian coastal plains.


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A ballot box set up by members of the International Election Council to set up a vote to ask slaves if they would like to leave for a new home on another planet or stay and relocate to another part of their current planet. Elections will be held for eight weeks then the choice of the majority of slaves will be the future of all slaves liberated in East Veria
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Olwe » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:53 pm

Olwe is ascending to a BBQ level of battle readiness in preparation for a genocide of all non-slave Verians. We will not rest until you are all dead. We will not be swayed by missiles, as we can simply teleport them back into their silos as they are about to detonate and deprive you of further launch capability. This is your first and last warning... abolish slavery, or be utterly destroyed.

LOL: Basic military readiness, nobody on alert, proceed as normal.
WTF: Increased military readiness because something, somewhere has made us look around and ask, "What the fuck?"
BTW: We remind whatever nation has pissed us off: "By the way, we have 20-kilometer space stations armed for orbital bombardment and can create or destroy universes with our magic. Do you really want a fight here?"
STD: They really wanted a fight, and it's a bad one... Olwe is formally at war.
BBQ: Olwe is officially over taking prisoners... every last person in the enemy nation, including civilians, must die.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:01 pm

Olwe wrote:Olwe is ascending to a BBQ level of battle readiness in preparation for a genocide of all non-slave Verians. We will not rest until you are all dead. We will not be swayed by missiles, as we can simply teleport them back into their silos as they are about to detonate and deprive you of further launch capability. This is your first and last warning... abolish slavery, or be utterly destroyed.

LOL: Basic military readiness, nobody on alert, proceed as normal.
WTF: Increased military readiness because something, somewhere has made us look around and ask, "What the fuck?"
BTW: We remind whatever nation has pissed us off: "By the way, we have 20-kilometer space stations armed for orbital bombardment and can create or destroy universes with our magic. Do you really want a fight here?"
STD: They really wanted a fight, and it's a bad one... Olwe is formally at war.
BBQ: Olwe is officially over taking prisoners... every last person in the enemy nation, including civilians, must die.

We here of this news in the council chamber but are worried of your present corse of action we have a foreknowledge that not all East Verians are for slavery we will not allow you to come in and kill innocent civillians at you discretion. If you continue on your present corse we will engage your forces in battle and you will lose entirely or lose badly enough to change your decision. We leave you with the choice so choose wisely.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:13 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Common Territories wrote:
OOC: Just out of burning curiosity, what makes a conservative who's christian unqualified to condemn slavery?

The Bible supports slavery.[/url]


Ever read the book of Philemon? The Bible does not support slavery. Rather, it only allows slavery, and states what slaves and masters are supposed to do should slavery exist in the reader's society. The Bible does not order the abolition of slavery because abolishing slavery in and around Jesus' time would not work. Every nation on the earth practiced slavery to some extent in the first century. At least a sixth of the Roman Empire's labor force was enslaved, and all the neighboring nations had similar policies.

Nowhere in the New Testament is slavery supported directly, though it is universally tolerated. In fact, though slaves are told to obey their masters, masters are in turn told to treat their slaves properly "because they too have a Master in Heaven who does not discrimiante", and in Philemon, the Apostle Paul writes to the book's namesake not to punish his slave for leaving with Paul, but welcome him as a human being, not just a salve. While it did not go all the way and condemn slavery, being a good steward to slaves instead of treating them on par with the cattle was considered revolutionary in its day, especially given the Roman Empire's treatment of its slaves.



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Postby Fifthland » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:19 pm

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To : whom it may concerns

Due to against humanity policies by the government of East Veria , Fifthland as a civilized nation take several action that necessary ,

1. Embargo any economical activity from and to East Veria.
2. don't recognize East Veria as a nation , state , and its territory.
3. Block any financial transaction by the East Veria.

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Postby Olwe » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:54 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Olwe wrote:Olwe is ascending to a BBQ level of battle readiness in preparation for a genocide of all non-slave Verians. We will not rest until you are all dead. We will not be swayed by missiles, as we can simply teleport them back into their silos as they are about to detonate and deprive you of further launch capability. This is your first and last warning... abolish slavery, or be utterly destroyed.

LOL: Basic military readiness, nobody on alert, proceed as normal.
WTF: Increased military readiness because something, somewhere has made us look around and ask, "What the fuck?"
BTW: We remind whatever nation has pissed us off: "By the way, we have 20-kilometer space stations armed for orbital bombardment and can create or destroy universes with our magic. Do you really want a fight here?"
STD: They really wanted a fight, and it's a bad one... Olwe is formally at war.
BBQ: Olwe is officially over taking prisoners... every last person in the enemy nation, including civilians, must die.

We here of this news in the council chamber but are worried of your present corse of action we have a foreknowledge that not all East Verians are for slavery we will not allow you to come in and kill innocent civillians at you discretion. If you continue on your present corse we will engage your forces in battle and you will lose entirely or lose badly enough to change your decision. We leave you with the choice so choose wisely.


If you want to only do the bare minimum to stamp out slavery, that's your business. We plan to deter the next East Veria wannabe, and to do that we've got to get our hands dirty. Since you apparently have no stomach for war, we don't require your assistance and will respond to your interference by considering you to be Verians and utterly destroying you.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:22 pm

Their are other ways to deter the East Verians from continuing the practice of the current government besides killing them. Options include 1.) re education 2.) Segregation 3.) or making all east Verians slaves as to make everyone equal or have all the slaves be slaves no longer.
If you kill innocents then your no better then the East Verian government the alliance is fighting to over throw.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Nemanin » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:51 pm

The Borderlands of Nemanin congratulates the Federation of East Veria on this remarkable achievement. We have already made the slave our national animal, and the success of East Veria in this realm serves as an inspiration to our great nation in its pursuit of larger quantities of slaves. We offer most the heartfelt support for the Federation in its future endeavors, and condemn those nations that have criticized the Federation.
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:09 pm

Slavery is a thing that does not need to exist. However, we respect your decision to have slaves, but we will not be making any trading dealings with you until you repeal slavery.

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Postby Caribica » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:14 am

Olwe wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:We here of this news in the council chamber but are worried of your present corse of action we have a foreknowledge that not all East Verians are for slavery we will not allow you to come in and kill innocent civillians at you discretion. If you continue on your present corse we will engage your forces in battle and you will lose entirely or lose badly enough to change your decision. We leave you with the choice so choose wisely.


If you want to only do the bare minimum to stamp out slavery, that's your business. We plan to deter the next East Veria wannabe, and to do that we've got to get our hands dirty. Since you apparently have no stomach for war, we don't require your assistance and will respond to your interference by considering you to be Verians and utterly destroying you.

OOC: teleportation? really? That is godmodding and I'm afraid I'm going to have to do the OP a big favor and bring the banhammer down on you.
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Postby Equestria and Griffon » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:16 am

Equestria and Griffon is currently on Defcon 3.War is being prepared.
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Postby Soled » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:25 am

Caribica wrote:
Olwe wrote:
If you want to only do the bare minimum to stamp out slavery, that's your business. We plan to deter the next East Veria wannabe, and to do that we've got to get our hands dirty. Since you apparently have no stomach for war, we don't require your assistance and will respond to your interference by considering you to be Verians and utterly destroying you.

OOC: teleportation? really? That is godmodding and I'm afraid I'm going to have to do the OP a big favor and bring the banhammer down on you.

The moderation team to do not police roleplaying, and only the OP himself can ban someone from this thread, unless site rules are being broken by someone here.
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Postby Pakxe Pact » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:41 am

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To: East Veria
From: Pakxe Pact
Subject: Slave Population

Greetings from the Confederation of Indochinese States of the Pakxe Pact,

We are aware that your slave population is enormous and that you utilise the practice regularly. Although we cannot demand you cease using ska very without invoking a manner of hypocrisy, we do inquire as to what tasks these slaves perform, and if they receive education. In addition, we recommend attempting to tone down the excessive slavery, as international organisations are not known for tolerating the practice well. Just some words of inquiry and warning.

Regards,

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Postby Caribica » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:10 am

Soled wrote:
Caribica wrote:OOC: teleportation? really? That is godmodding and I'm afraid I'm going to have to do the OP a big favor and bring the banhammer down on you.

The moderation team to do not police roleplaying, and only the OP himself can ban someone from this thread, unless site rules are being broken by someone here.

Well this is an MT rp and he is using teleportation so...

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Postby Soled » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:17 am

Caribica wrote:
Soled wrote:The moderation team to do not police roleplaying, and only the OP himself can ban someone from this thread, unless site rules are being broken by someone here.

Well this is an MT rp and he is using teleportation so...

Unrealistic roleplaying is not actionable (which means, the mods won't need to do anything).
If you believe something within the RP is wrong then you must contact the OP.
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