NS Military Realism Mk. 7: NO

[The Akasha Colony]

That comparison's a bit misleading given that the last B-52 was built in 1962, seven years before the 747 first flew.

It is the cost, adjusted for inflation, in 1998 dollars, that I believe the source is referring to when it says fiscal 98 constant dollars behind the unit cost field.

Adjusting for inflation does not actually reflect the change in the equivalent cost of purchase today. It does not account for the increased cost of materials in real terms, or the increased cost of labor, the cost of new electronics (which were fitted to the B-52 as modernizations and not reflected in the purchase cost), the cost of newer engines (the B-52's engines are hilariously inefficient by modern standards), etc.

A new-build B-52-like bomber designed and manufactured today would cost about the same as a 747, if not more for all of the defensive electronics it would need for self-protection that civilian-model 747s don't have.

[Atomic Utopia]

It is the cost, adjusted for inflation, in 1998 dollars, that I believe the source is referring to when it says fiscal 98 constant dollars behind the unit cost field.

Adjusting for inflation does not actually reflect the change in the equivalent cost of purchase today. It does not account for the increased cost of materials in real terms, or the increased cost of labor, the cost of new electronics (which were fitted to the B-52 as modernizations and not reflected in the purchase cost), the cost of newer engines (the B-52's engines are hilariously inefficient by modern standards), etc.

A new-build B-52-like bomber designed and manufactured today would cost about the same as a 747, if not more for all of the defensive electronics it would need for self-protection that civilian-model 747s don't have.

Oh, okay, guess I was wrong about the cost, sorry about that.

[Allanea]

How much did Tu-95 cost when they were last made in the 1990s?

[The Akasha Colony]

Tula's posts.

If you want info about my tech, just ask. I'm working on the factbook.

I'm still not sure what in particular you're talking about. Lots of odd things are going on.

How much did Tu-95 cost when they were last made in the 1990s?

It'd be interesting to find out, although I don't have any information.

[New Vihenia]

I'm curious if there's any way to actually re-cycle decommissioned nuclear reactor. Currently all nuclear nations and navies disposed their reactors by filling it with cements or any other sealant mats (furfurol, bitumen.. etc) Then either bury it into the ground or dispose them at sea.

[Roski]

I'm curious if there's any way to actually re-cycle decommissioned nuclear reactor. Currently all nuclear nations and navies disposed their reactors by filling it with cements or any other sealant mats (furfurol, bitumen.. etc) Then either bury it into the ground or dispose them at sea.

You can after all of the radiation disperses.

[New Vihenia]

You can after all of the radiation disperses.

That'll take Millenium i guess.. Simply not practical.

[Petrokovia]

Hey, guys! I'm starting to make designs for my tanks, and was wondering how I was doing. This is the first (proper) design, the DP-95. How does it look?

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Like a WW2 tank. And probably fights like one, too. It's cool, just not modern.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Hey, guys! I'm starting to make designs for my tanks, and was wondering how I was doing. This is the first (proper) design, the DP-95. How does it look?
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Assuming it's for (early) WW2, it looks pretty good. I strongly suggest you find out what scale it's in, though, since either those machine-guns are really tiny or that tank is really big. (Here's an M5 Stuart as an example)

[Korva]

I remember a while back there was a discussion that involved the Mi-24 and how its transport capabilities are more of a limiting factor then a benefit and it got me wondering, why are they still building hinds with transport compartments if this is the case? It seems like the cargo area could be made much smaller if its primarily used for transporting extra ordinance for the hind itself

Enter the Mi-28


the 24's transport ability still is useful in a pinch. Good for extracting people in a hot zone.

Mi-28 has an emergency passenger capability.

Well. To be entirely fair, assuming two satellites are traveling in intersecting orbits, it would be possible for the velocity vector of one to another to equal 5km/s, such that if satellite A released something toward satellite B at ~0km/s it would impact satellite B at ~5km/s. Both the US and the USSR designed satellite weapons working along this general principle (Brilliant Pebbles and Istrebitel Sputnik, respectively), though neither saw service.

A 2,000kg projectile which emerges from satellite A at a velocity of 5km/s (relative to satellite A) is, of course, not only unrealistic but outright superfluous for anti-satellite work.

Either way, let's let this die and move on to better things.

Is it just me, or is this thing unusually tall?

I don't think so...

It is because he is using Franscale figures next to a 1 pixel : 1 cm vehicle.

[Purpelia]

Hey, guys! I'm starting to make designs for my tanks, and was wondering how I was doing. This is the first (proper) design, the DP-95. How does it look?
(Image)

If your tank has to be all black, something which is generally incompatible with good cammo don't color the background white. It creates too much of a contrast and makes details difficult to make out. Instead, use a medium shade of gray like I do for my rifles (see signature). Also, try to use more colors overall since that will make the details pop.

[Petrokovia]

Like a WW2 tank. And probably fights like one, too. It's cool, just not modern.

Yeah, I'm also designing a more modern tank as well.

Assuming it's for (early) WW2, it looks pretty good. I strongly suggest you find out what scale it's in, though, since either those machine-guns are really tiny or that tank is really big. (Here's an M5 Stuart as an example)

The tank itself is supposed to be pretty big.

If your tank has to be all black, something which is generally incompatible with good cammo don't color the background white. It creates too much of a contrast and makes details difficult to make out. Instead, use a medium shade of gray like I do for my rifles (see signature). Also, try to use more colors overall since that will make the details pop.

Thanks for the input! And the tank isn't necessarily all black-it's able to be repainted.

[The Kievan People]

It is the cost, adjusted for inflation, in 1998 dollars, that I believe the source is referring to when it says fiscal 98 constant dollars behind the unit cost field.

Adjusting for inflation does not actually reflect the change in the equivalent cost of purchase today. It does not account for the increased cost of materials in real terms, or the increased cost of labor, the cost of new electronics (which were fitted to the B-52 as modernizations and not reflected in the purchase cost), the cost of newer engines (the B-52's engines are hilariously inefficient by modern standards), etc.

A new-build B-52-like bomber designed and manufactured today would cost about the same as a 747, if not more for all of the defensive electronics it would need for self-protection that civilian-model 747s don't have.

Too add to this: The cost of the 787-8F and C17, both modern cargo aircraft, are proportional to their weight. The C17 had a MTOW roughly 60% of the 787-8F and is about 60% of the flyaway cost. Which suggests that the basic relationship of cost = weight holds true for both civilian and military aircraft (and by extension, the price of similarly sized civilian aircraft can give us a ballpark of what a comparable military aircraft would cost).

The C17 is probably a good proxy for a modern B52-like aircraft because it has nearly the same MTOW, similar cruising speed, similar ceiling, range etc and it includes at lease some modern self-defensive equipment.

[The Kievan People]

I remember a while back there was a discussion that involved the Mi-24 and how its transport capabilities are more of a limiting factor then a benefit and it got me wondering, why are they still building hinds with transport compartments if this is the case? It seems like the cargo area could be made much smaller if its primarily used for transporting extra ordinance for the hind itself

Removing it would be tantamount to designing a new helicopter and three's a crowd.

Anyone who wants a brand new heavy Russian attack helicopter can buy either the Mi-28 or the Ka-52. For customers who want something cheaper and/or similar to what they already operate a modernized Mi-24 is more appealing.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Assuming it's for (early) WW2, it looks pretty good. I strongly suggest you find out what scale it's in, though, since either those machine-guns are really tiny or that tank is really big. (Here's an M5 Stuart as an example)

The tank itself is supposed to be pretty big.

How big, actually? There doesn't seem to be a scale on the image. If the forward pintle gun is the same length as an M1919, then your tank measures about nine meters long (hull only) and four and a half meters tall - a full meter taller than the Maus.

Guns aside, it looks marvelous for a basic late-'30s light tank, in line with the T-26 and Vickers Mark E. But if you make it as large as those guns suggest, you may be looking at 100 tonnes instead of 10. Which is bad for a whole list of reasons.

[Petrokovia]

The tank itself is supposed to be pretty big.

How big, actually? There doesn't seem to be a scale on the image. If the forward pintle gun is the same length as an M1919, then your tank measures about nine meters long (hull only) and four and a half meters tall - a full meter taller than the Maus.

Guns aside, it looks marvelous for a basic late-'30s light tank, in line with the T-26 and Vickers Mark E. But if you make it as large as those guns suggest, you may be looking at 100 tonnes instead of 10. Which is bad for a whole list of reasons.

Then I'll make the guns a bit bigger. The scaling is a bit off. XD

I believe this is a bit more to scale:

[Abbasiah]

Hi guys nice to meet you.....

As new country with lot of enemy we need build our military as fast as possible.

Lately there idea from our military Counsel (after they watch certain tv show, wich is forbidden in our country) to recruit high school girls as tank operator. We have 3 tank division for high school boys now and we plan to add 5 more. And our Air Force started to build all female pilot squadron. Named sky angels..

- how feasible is this idea?

- is it high school girls better than high school boys in handling tank?

sorry for my lousy english, and I would appreciate if someone can help me solve this..

[San-Silvacian]

Females suck in all Combat roles.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Your whole idea for high schoolers isn't feasible or possible.

For one, your whole nation' scientific future is at stake. For another, most of your workforce is gone. And teens aren't too good of an idea as tank operators.

Otherwise... No.

[Korva]

Hi guys nice to meet you.....

As new country with lot of enemy we need build our military as fast as possible.

Lately there idea from our military Counsel (after they watch certain tv show, wich is forbidden in our country) to recruit high school girls as tank operator. We have 3 tank division for high school boys now and we plan to add 5 more. And our Air Force started to build all female pilot squadron. Named sky angels..

- how feasible is this idea?

- is it high school girls better than high school boys in handling tank?

sorry for my lousy english, and I would appreciate if someone can help me solve this..

Bears can smell the menstruation.

Do you want your camps to be attacked by bears?

[Petrokovia]

Hi guys nice to meet you.....

As new country with lot of enemy we need build our military as fast as possible.

Lately there idea from our military Counsel (after they watch certain tv show, wich is forbidden in our country) to recruit high school girls as tank operator. We have 3 tank division for high school boys now and we plan to add 5 more. And our Air Force started to build all female pilot squadron. Named sky angels..

- how feasible is this idea?

- is it high school girls better than high school boys in handling tank?

sorry for my lousy english, and I would appreciate if someone can help me solve this..

Sorry comrade. Girls und Panzer isn't going to go well in actual combat. That's why they are doing it for sport, not war.

However, this does bring up another issue: is it actually possible to drift a tank, especially on pavement?

[Licana]

butt i thought gurls und panzer was a documentary :<

[Petrokovia]

butt i thought gurls und panzer was a documentary :<

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Hi guys nice to meet you.....

As new country with lot of enemy we need build our military as fast as possible.

Lately there idea from our military Counsel (after they watch certain tv show, wich is forbidden in our country) to recruit high school girls as tank operator. We have 3 tank division for high school boys now and we plan to add 5 more. And our Air Force started to build all female pilot squadron. Named sky angels..

- how feasible is this idea?

- is it high school girls better than high school boys in handling tank?

sorry for my lousy english, and I would appreciate if someone can help me solve this..

Sorry comrade. Girls und Panzer isn't going to go well in actual combat. That's why they are doing it for sport, not war.

However, this does bring up another issue: is it actually possible to drift a tank, especially on pavement?

With Christie suspension you can. The T-50 and BT-7 could, but not in a conventional way.