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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:18 am

The Flood wrote:Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III urges Maldovania not to adopt democracy, for democracy is the root of all evil. The only answer is absolute monarchy, backed by the divine will of God.

Because civil rights is evil. [/sarcasm]
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:58 am

Upper America wrote:
The Flood wrote:Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III urges Maldovania not to adopt democracy, for democracy is the root of all evil. The only answer is absolute monarchy, backed by the divine will of God.

Because civil rights is evil. [/sarcasm]

The more traditionalist members of the Party would like to remind you that democracy does not guarantee civil freedoms, because in a direct democracy as Empress Louise VII said, the people can vote themselves the property of others, therefore, democracy can lead to tyranny of the majority. Democracy is a dangerous beast, it needs some restrictions to. However, other members say that so absolutism, extreme ideas need some control in order to create a well-balanced state.
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:01 am

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Upper America wrote:Because civil rights is evil. [/sarcasm]

The more traditionalist members of the Party would like to remind you that democracy does not guarantee civil freedoms, because in a direct democracy as Empress Louise VII said, the people can vote themselves the property of others, therefore, democracy can lead to tyranny of the majority. Democracy is a dangerous beast, it needs some restrictions to. However, other members say that so absolutism, extreme ideas need some control in order to create a well-balanced state.

But who would vote themselves property of someone? We got rid of slavery, like we're ever gonna vote it back in!
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:05 am

Upper America wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:The more traditionalist members of the Party would like to remind you that democracy does not guarantee civil freedoms, because in a direct democracy as Empress Louise VII said, the people can vote themselves the property of others, therefore, democracy can lead to tyranny of the majority. Democracy is a dangerous beast, it needs some restrictions to. However, other members say that so absolutism, extreme ideas need some control in order to create a well-balanced state.

But who would vote themselves property of someone? We got rid of slavery, like we're ever gonna vote it back in!

Property as in other people's money and land, a lot people covet such things. Enlightened despots have ended serfdom in our continent.
Mind you, the inventors of democracy kept slaves.
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:09 am

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Upper America wrote:But who would vote themselves property of someone? We got rid of slavery, like we're ever gonna vote it back in!

Property as in other people's money and land, a lot people covet such things. Enlightened despots have ended serfdom in our continent.
Mind you, the inventors of democracy kept slaves.

The inventors of democracy also treated slaves so nicely, they were hard to tell apart from free men.

Besides, we don't have serfdom, not in the modern day.
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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:23 pm

Maldovania wrote:
The Flood wrote:Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III urges Maldovania not to adopt democracy, for democracy is the root of all evil. The only answer is absolute monarchy, backed by the divine will of God.
Empress Louise VII is determent to turn Maldovania into a democracy.
The common people are just rabble, a bunch of uneducated fools. They are not fit to determine the fate of a country; only an absolute monarch back by God is fit to rule!
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:27 pm

Upper America wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Property as in other people's money and land, a lot people covet such things. Enlightened despots have ended serfdom in our continent.
Mind you, the inventors of democracy kept slaves.

The inventors of democracy also treated slaves so nicely, they were hard to tell apart from free men.

Besides, we don't have serfdom, not in the modern day.

That implies slavery was good for them, and the Holy Roman Empire believes it is not.
We abolished serfdom a long time ago.
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:31 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:Empress Louise VII is determent to turn Maldovania into a democracy.
The common people are just rabble, a bunch of uneducated fools. They are not fit to determine the fate of a country; only an absolute monarch back by God is fit to rule!


And one person should not decide the fate of millions or billions of people.

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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:31 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:Empress Louise VII is determent to turn Maldovania into a democracy.
The common people are just rabble, a bunch of uneducated fools. They are not fit to determine the fate of a country; only an absolute monarch back by God is fit to rule!

God doesn't exactly talk to us as much as he used to. We've become too scary. So how is an absolute monarchy backed by God gonna survive?

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Upper America wrote:The inventors of democracy also treated slaves so nicely, they were hard to tell apart from free men.

Besides, we don't have serfdom, not in the modern day.

That implies slavery was good for them, and the Holy Roman Empire believes it is not.
We abolished serfdom a long time ago.

Did you abolish it as long ago as the Greeks?
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:51 pm

Empress Louise VII of Maldovania has together with her advisor Grand Duke Philippe written 20 laws to help guide Maldovania into a brighter future

These 20 laws are based on the Code de Maximilian which was written by Emperor Maximilian XVIII in 1961 but he died before he finished it and now the Empress Louise VII finished it with help from Grand Duke Philippe

1. The Emperor\Empress is head of state and Prime Minister head of government. All political power is with the Prime Minister and Federal Assembly and Federal Council

2. All citizens shall be given equal opportunity

3. Health care shall be free for all and euthanasia is legal if the patients is terminal ill and their is no hope for recovery

4. Education shall be free for all up until university

5. All Religions are free to practices their fate in Maldovania. As long as it does not harm others

6. Women and men shall be payed equal salary on the same work

7. People shall be hired based on their qualifications and not gender or skin color

8. The Police shall uphold the law inside the country

9. The Military shall uphold the safety of Maldovania

10. Nature shall be protected

11. All Criminals shall be given a lawyer and be judge by a jury. Civilians shall not stand in front of a military tribunal

12.A-Women are free to have abortions if they do not wish to keep the child. But it must happen before the second trimester. After that abortion is not allowed.
12.B- And men who do not wish to be fathers are free to have an economic abortion were they do not need to pay child support for a child they did not wish to have. This law only applies to men that has been tricked into fatherhood

13. Their shall be elections every 4th year for elections of the Prime Minister and Federal Assembly. And elections every 4th year for elections of the regionals councils. And 2 years shall go between the elections of the Federal Assembly and the regional councils

14 .Members of the Imperial Family that is not directly related to the Emperor his wife and children do not have immunity from the law. Only the Emperor\Empress and his close family wife\Husband and children have immunity from the law. But this immunity does not apply if the crime child molestation.

15. The death penalty can only be given in time of war. Not in peace time

16. The Culture of Maldovania shall be protected

17. The Infrastructure of Maldovania shall be given more money

18. The poor shall be given economic help.

19. The Unemployed shall be given help to find work

20. The amount of tax payed by a citizen shall be decided on the amount he makes. All citizens that makes more than 7000 Speciedaler must pay some tax. The Imperial Family must also pay taxes. The tax rate will be between 1% and 40 %. The poorest citizens will pay 1% and the riches citizens will pay 40%. All citizens and all businesses must pay taxes
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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:08 pm

Maldovania wrote:12. Women are free to have abortions if they do not wish to keep the child. And men who do not wish to be fathers are free to have an economic abortion were they do not need to pay child support for a child they did not wish to have.
This is a crime against humanity! The Flood will not stand for genocide. Remove this travesty at once.
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:14 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:12. Women are free to have abortions if they do not wish to keep the child. And men who do not wish to be fathers are free to have an economic abortion were they do not need to pay child support for a child they did not wish to have.
This is a crime against humanity! The Flood will not stand for genocide. Remove this travesty at once.


Her Imperial Majesty the Empress Louise VII does not let foreign nation dictate the laws of Maldovania.

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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:14 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:12. Women are free to have abortions if they do not wish to keep the child. And men who do not wish to be fathers are free to have an economic abortion were they do not need to pay child support for a child they did not wish to have.
This is a crime against humanity! The Flood will not stand for genocide. Remove this travesty at once.

Meh, the only issue I have is that men can terminate child support at any time. That should be decided by the courts. Unfortunately for you, abortion is no crime. It is a women's right. Say, have you legalized gay marriage yet?
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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:29 pm

Maldovania wrote:
The Flood wrote:This is a crime against humanity! The Flood will not stand for genocide. Remove this travesty at once.
Her Imperial Majesty the Empress Louise VII does not let foreign nation dictate the laws of Maldovania.
His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III, does not let foreign nations commit genocides.
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:36 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:Her Imperial Majesty the Empress Louise VII does not let foreign nation dictate the laws of Maldovania.
His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III, does not let foreign nations commit genocides.


Empress Louise VII would like to remind Emperor Maximilian III that he is not Emperor of Maldovania and that he has no say in the matters of Maldovania.

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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:38 pm

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Maldovania wrote:Her Imperial Majesty the Empress Louise VII does not let foreign nation dictate the laws of Maldovania.
His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III, does not let foreign nations commit genocides.

Neither do we, but you don't see us forcing nations to ban a crucial part in women's rights.
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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:45 pm

Maldovania wrote:
The Flood wrote:His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III, does not let foreign nations commit genocides.
Empress Louise VII would like to remind Emperor Maximilian III that he is not Emperor of Maldovania and that he has no say in the matters of Maldovania.
Perhaps not, but that could change now, couldn't it?
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:45 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:Empress Louise VII would like to remind Emperor Maximilian III that he is not Emperor of Maldovania and that he has no say in the matters of Maldovania.
Perhaps not, but that could change now, couldn't it?

Don't even think about it.
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:47 pm

The Flood wrote:
Maldovania wrote:Empress Louise VII would like to remind Emperor Maximilian III that he is not Emperor of Maldovania and that he has no say in the matters of Maldovania.
Perhaps not, but that could change now, couldn't it?


No it could not.

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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:50 pm

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The Flood wrote:Perhaps not, but that could change now, couldn't it?
No it could not.
Are you prepared to say that to a hundred million Holy Knights of the Flood?
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:56 pm

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Maldovania wrote:No it could not.
Are you prepared to say that to a hundred million Holy Knights of the Flood?


You know what the Dalek said to the Cybermens " One Dalek can kill millions of Cybermens" ( a Doctor who reference )

And the Imperial Army of Maldovania is the Dalek and the Cybermens is the Holy Knights of the Flood. Take the hint


OOC: But i am not going to play war with you.
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:58 pm

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Maldovania wrote:No it could not.
Are you prepared to say that to a hundred million Holy Knights of the Flood?

A hundred million is unrealistic. I can already guess a war between you two would be flooded with godmodding and armies the size of countries.
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Postby Maldovania » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:03 pm

Upper America wrote:
The Flood wrote:Are you prepared to say that to a hundred million Holy Knights of the Flood?

A hundred million is unrealistic. I can already guess a war between you two would be flooded with godmodding and armies the size of countries.


Well i have no intention in playing war.

But my army would be as it is on my factbook. And i do not think that is unrealistic considering that my population is 1.216 billion

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=maldovania/detail=factbook/id=248329

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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:05 pm

Upper America wrote:
The Flood wrote:Are you prepared to say that to a hundred million Holy Knights of the Flood?

A hundred million is unrealistic. I can already guess a war between you two would be flooded with godmodding and armies the size of countries.
OOC: 100 million isn't unrealistic, considering the Flood is set in the future, and has a fiercely nationalistic population of 5 billion.
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Postby The Flood » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:06 pm

Maldovania wrote:
The Flood wrote:Are you prepared to say that to a hundred million Holy Knights of the Flood?
You know what the Dalek said to the Cybermens " One Dalek can kill millions of Cybermens" ( a Doctor who reference )
And the Imperial Army of Maldovania is the Dalek and the Cybermens is the Holy Knights of the Flood. Take the hint
There is a spike outside the capital building in Rome. We will be sure to reserve it for the head of your genocidal Empress.
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