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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:30 pm

The Forever Whatever People wrote:Out of curiosity would the spider tank from cod aw qualify for this thread or would it be considers a mech?

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I'm personally going to go and call it a mech, even though TECHNICALLY it's tracked, just because of the legs. Very borderline, that thing. Play it safe.
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Postby Questers » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:31 pm

HEAT is a dumb munition

muh HESH atgm
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Postby The Forever Whatever People » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
The Forever Whatever People wrote:Out of curiosity would the spider tank from cod aw qualify for this thread or would it be considers a mech?

Anemos Major wrote:
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No mechs. This means no legged vehicles, or any sort of vehicles that rely on legs for movement, even if designed to fulfill the same role as tanks. This includes hybrids like Ghost in the Shell think-tanks and Tachikomas. If you're looking for a thread about mechs, please follow this link



I'm personally going to go and call it a mech, even though TECHNICALLY it's tracked, just because of the legs. Very borderline, that thing. Play it safe.

So even if I don't use the walking feature it would still be a mech?

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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:34 pm

The Forever Whatever People wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:

I'm personally going to go and call it a mech, even though TECHNICALLY it's tracked, just because of the legs. Very borderline, that thing. Play it safe.

So even if I don't use the walking feature it would still be a mech?


I'd play it safe and just ditch the track moving mechanism altogether. Even if it's a nice concept, it isn't really mechanically feasible, especially for something that weighs about seventy-five tons or so.
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Postby The Greater Luthorian Empire » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:35 pm

Yukonastan wrote:AND I QUOTE:
Gallia- wrote:http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Stridsvagn_151#Armour

Better than LeClerc.


Gallia-chan can explain it better than I can.

Not really, hell if you penetrate the turret everyone dies.
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:45 pm

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Go Leclerc


Until it breaks down. ):

Go Abrams, the only "successful in all areas" Western tank ever made.

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Postby Questers » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:51 pm

The Leclercs apparently dont break down so much now.
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Postby Lyras » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:08 pm

Questers wrote:The Leclercs apparently dont break down so much now.

Given how long they've had to iron out the issues, one would hope not.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:31 pm

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leclerc nude :O
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Postby The Forever Whatever People » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:34 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:(Image)

leclerc nude :O

Hey hey hey hey their are little kids on this thread mister. :p

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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:35 pm

Leclerc ez muh waifu, or Type 10.
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Postby Questers » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:38 pm

wrong
leclerc is challenger 2s waifu

he has his way with her every night. British style lights off socks on

oh alvis vickers your hesh spalls me so
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:45 pm

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Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:APS and the MBT 70 is dead in the water. That is the reason why I say it is a failed design according to me for modern times.


And what are your creds to say that it was failed?

Because it didn't go into mass production?

Active Protection System. Simple as that. The MBT 70 fires an Anti tank missile.
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Postby Questers » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:49 pm

and a massive HEAT round tbf.

also APS are of questionable utility
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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:05 pm

Questers wrote:wrong
leclerc is challenger 2s waifu

he has his way with her every night. British style lights off socks on

oh alvis vickers your hesh spalls me so

No, muh waifu
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:20 pm

Questers wrote:and a massive HEAT round tbf.

also APS are of questionable utility


The "massive" HEAT round had very poor penetration tbh. An ideal late MBT-70 would either be:

1) M1A2
2) L/44, Rheinmetall autoloader, German transmission/engine, integrated NERA/BDD-style armour.

It would probably end up being comparable to T-72B.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:03 pm

im packing allot of heat bby.
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Postby Saphirasia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:14 pm

Gallia- wrote:2) L/44, Rheinmetall autoloader, German transmission/engine, integrated NERA/BDD-style armour.

Isn't this the route that the Germans were wanting to go? I seem to recall that the KPz-70 was to armed with the 120mm. Don't remember if it was to be autoloaded, though.
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Yukonastan wrote:
Questers wrote:yeah because defensive weapons obsoleted the tank

muh pak 38
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Speaking of which, ATGM launching methods. I know it's been covered before, in a way, but what if I took, say, a :NOT:Marder/M113/Puma bastard, what would the advantages and/or disadvantages of fitting a turret capable of launching, say, TOW-2A missiles as its primary weapon?


wot, like this?

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All countries converted APCs and IFVs into ATGM carriers so they could have tank destroyers with a high ammunition capacity. if you mean an IFV that carries out its normal duties but with an ATGM rather than any other weapon, that's dumb.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:21 am

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Postby Rich and Corporations » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:33 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Apparently so.
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More like 6-8 inches for the Maverick and 4-5 inches for the Hellfire, as it happens.

That's misrepresentative. The ammo rack blew. The outsides of any tank would look like crap if the ammo rack was blown.
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Postby Yukonastan » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:54 am

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Yukonastan wrote:muh spriggan

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Speaking of which, ATGM launching methods. I know it's been covered before, in a way, but what if I took, say, a :NOT:Marder/M113/Puma bastard, what would the advantages and/or disadvantages of fitting a turret capable of launching, say, TOW-2A missiles as its primary weapon?


wot, like this?

Image

All countries converted APCs and IFVs into ATGM carriers so they could have tank destroyers with a high ammunition capacity. if you mean an IFV that carries out its normal duties but with an ATGM rather than any other weapon, that's dumb.


What I mean is basically what the IT1/Jaguar 2 was, but mid-Seventies, properly enclosed turret, with a healthy blend of the Puma's lines. Idea was to get a conventional manned turret, with the basket holding the cases in a revolver-style autoloader, holding sixteen missiles or so. It'd be a GLATGM-like system, except it'd only launch TOW missiles.
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San-Silvacian wrote:im packing allot of heat bby.


already made lame le may may pic
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