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Postby Iltica » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:16 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Iltica wrote:Oh really? That really stacks it in favor of the "heavy" design if we can afford it. That F414 thrust ratio though... Dayum.
Is there any way to compare two aircraft to get a sense of the cost difference? Maybe the F-20 and F-16? They're both American and from around the same era. The costs won't be representative but the ratio between the two might be?


Not easily. F-16 was more expensive than F-20, but lots of things went into play in each contract. You can try to compare the $15 million vs. $18 million initial price, but there are factors involved like Northrop trying to intentionally undercut General Dynamics and willing to take a big hit to make the sale, with the hope of getting more profitable follow-on orders in the future. GD had no incentive to do the same since the USAF was already willing to buy its fighters at the contracted price.

I don't know how much a production F-20 would have cost but it's combat radius looks far too small to defend a country this size at just 300 nmi with droptanks, and the end of this article makes it seem like it wouldn't be saving much money anyway.
Though I really like the idea of a fighter so maneuverable that even an experienced fighter pilot could black out without any warning.


The F-20 ended up trying to do too much with the light F-5's airframe. The F-16 started out the same way and would have turned out that way if Pierre Sprey had his way. Luckily, he didn't, and smarter minds who favored expensive things like a radar, missile armament, and ground attack capability triumphed, turning the F-16 into a multi-role medium fighter rather than an ultralight fighter armed with just a gun and boundless optimism. The F-16 turned out better than the F-20 because it was designed for such roles and so could better accommodate the equipment that was added to make these roles a reality. Range is one of the major drawbacks that most light fighters face.



Alright then, looks like the 26,000 lb-ish design wins as long as it's competitively priced. I still subscribe to the "not a pound for air-to-ground" philosophy but the extra room seems worth it for the fuel alone.
Maybe affording it will seem more plausible if there were an established line of domestic fighters, like Sweden but lagging behind a little bit for most of the 20th century?
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Postby Palakistan » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:54 am

How would you efficiently organize your Air Force? I project power a lot. I have no aircraft carriers yet, and I do have a overseas AFB. I look at the USAF and I'm like "yeah, right". Way too complicated. So do you have any ideas on how to efficiently organize your Air Force? I currently split it up in a way which makes it inefficient.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:00 am

Palakistan wrote:How would you efficiently organize your Air Force? I project power a lot. I have no aircraft carriers yet, and I do have a overseas AFB. I look at the USAF and I'm like "yeah, right". Way too complicated. So do you have any ideas on how to efficiently organize your Air Force? I currently split it up in a way which makes it inefficient.


That's more or less how you do it. The USAF isn't organized the way it is for kicks. The organization of several hundred thousand personnel and thousands of aircraft for combat and support operations in a wide variety of situations ranging from high-intensity combat to COIN is not a simple thing.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:22 pm

Random questions:

What is the approximate range of a MMW missile seeker against, say, a fighter-size target? Of around 3-5 m2 RCS or so. Or even a stealth fighter? I have no real information on how S/X-band radar stealth affects higher-frequency sensors. Would it function adequately as a proximity fuze?
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Postby New Vihenia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:47 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:Random questions:

What is the approximate range of a MMW missile seeker against, say, a fighter-size target? Of around 3-5 m2 RCS or so. Or even a stealth fighter?


Of course it's subjected to the same law as any other radar seeker. You'll have to calculate it yourself.

I have no real information on how S/X-band radar stealth affects higher-frequency sensors. Would it function adequately as a proximity fuze?


It will have same effect as other band. Except that because the frequency is higher, the specular RCS pattern of the target would be basically stronger BUT much narrower.
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Postby Empire of Gibraltar » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:20 pm

This is the new 5th gen fighter for the Empire of Gibratar, it is part of of the Modern AiRCraft program. They are however very expensive but will serve well on the Gibraltarian Fleets as a STOVL (Short Take Off, Vertical Landing) vehicles. Serving on the the Juan Class Carriers which are smaller nuclear carriers with more armament then a normal carrier.
Type: ARC-Cougar
Length: 55 ft
Wingspan: 37 ft
Height: 15 ft
Propulsion: GTD-135 Bumblebee Turbofan Powerplant and GTD-275 Hurricane Lift Fan
Vertical Thrust: 41,345 Lbf
Forward Thrust: 55,565 Lbf
Empty Weight: 31,000 Lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight:77,500 Lbs
Minimum Fuel Weight: 19,375 Lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight: 27,125 Lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s): 1,250 Lbs / 6 Pylons
Normal Payload: 5,000 Lbs
Maximum Payload:15,000 Lbs
Normal Combat Weight: 63,125 Lbs
Vertical Thrust-to Weight Ratio: 1.5
Forward Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 0.9
Combat Range: 1,350 Miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 40,000
Maximum Altitude: 55,000
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 2.05
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.4
Crew (List): Air Superiority (ARC-CougarA) One Crew, Ground Strike (ARC-CougarB) Two Crew
Price: 165 Million per Unit
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:25 pm

Empire of Gibraltar wrote:This is the new 5th gen fighter for the Empire of Gibratar, it is part of of the Modern AiRCraft program. They are however very expensive but will serve well on the Gibraltarian Fleets as a STOVL (Short Take Off, Vertical Landing) vehicles. Serving on the the Juan Class Carriers which are smaller nuclear carriers with more armament then a normal carrier.
Type: ARC-Cougar
Length: 55 ft
Wingspan: 37 ft
Height: 15 ft
Propulsion: GTD-135 Bumblebee Turbofan Powerplant and GTD-275 Hurricane Lift Fan
Vertical Thrust: 41,345 Lbf
Forward Thrust: 55,565 Lbf
Empty Weight: 31,000 Lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight:77,500 Lbs
Minimum Fuel Weight: 19,375 Lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight: 27,125 Lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s): 1,250 Lbs / 6 Pylons
Normal Payload: 5,000 Lbs
Maximum Payload:15,000 Lbs
Normal Combat Weight: 63,125 Lbs
Vertical Thrust-to Weight Ratio: 1.5
Forward Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 0.9
Combat Range: 1,350 Miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 40,000
Maximum Altitude: 55,000
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 2.05
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.4
Crew (List): Air Superiority (ARC-CougarA) One Crew, Ground Strike (ARC-CougarB) Two Crew
Price: 165 Million per Unit


I would be very interested to know how a fighter of such size manages such range and such speeds on the listed engine thrust.
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Postby Empire of Gibraltar » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:01 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Empire of Gibraltar wrote:This is the new 5th gen fighter for the Empire of Gibratar, it is part of of the Modern AiRCraft program. They are however very expensive but will serve well on the Gibraltarian Fleets as a STOVL (Short Take Off, Vertical Landing) vehicles. Serving on the the Juan Class Carriers which are smaller nuclear carriers with more armament then a normal carrier.
Type: ARC-Cougar
Length: 55 ft
Wingspan: 37 ft
Height: 15 ft
Propulsion: GTD-135 Bumblebee Turbofan Powerplant and GTD-275 Hurricane Lift Fan
Vertical Thrust: 41,345 Lbf
Forward Thrust: 55,565 Lbf
Empty Weight: 31,000 Lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight:77,500 Lbs
Minimum Fuel Weight: 19,375 Lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight: 27,125 Lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s): 1,250 Lbs / 6 Pylons
Normal Payload: 5,000 Lbs
Maximum Payload:15,000 Lbs
Normal Combat Weight: 63,125 Lbs
Vertical Thrust-to Weight Ratio: 1.5
Forward Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 0.9
Combat Range: 1,350 Miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 40,000
Maximum Altitude: 55,000
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 2.05
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.4
Crew (List): Air Superiority (ARC-CougarA) One Crew, Ground Strike (ARC-CougarB) Two Crew
Price: 165 Million per Unit


I would be very interested to know how a fighter of such size manages such range and such speeds on the listed engine thrust.

I think I exaggerated the size, it was supposed to be based off the F35 I thought it was supposed to be small.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:13 pm

Empire of Gibraltar wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
I would be very interested to know how a fighter of such size manages such range and such speeds on the listed engine thrust.

I think I exaggerated the size, it was supposed to be based off the F35 I thought it was supposed to be small.


That's actually part of the question. It actually isn't that big, yet somehow it packs an engine that is significantly more powerful than the most powerful turbofan in service and can supercruise faster than the F-22, which has significantly more thrust (it's also heavier, but not proportionate to its thrust output). It also somehow is supposed to cruise at Mach 1.4 while having a combat range of 1,350 miles. Achieving such range at such speed would require an enormous amount of fuel, which a fighter this size is unlikely to fit. Cruising at supersonic speeds is also unlikely; aircraft cruise at subsonic speeds because supersonic speeds greatly increase drag and fuel consumption, reducing range.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:41 pm

Empire of Gibraltar wrote:This is the new 5th gen fighter for the Empire of Gibratar, it is part of of the Modern AiRCraft program. They are however very expensive but will serve well on the Gibraltarian Fleets as a STOVL (Short Take Off, Vertical Landing) vehicles. Serving on the the Juan Class Carriers which are smaller nuclear carriers with more armament then a normal carrier.
Type: ARC-Cougar
Length: 55 ft
Wingspan: 37 ft
Height: 15 ft
Propulsion: GTD-135 Bumblebee Turbofan Powerplant and GTD-275 Hurricane Lift Fan
Vertical Thrust: 41,345 Lbf
Forward Thrust: 55,565 Lbf
Empty Weight: 31,000 Lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight:77,500 Lbs
Minimum Fuel Weight: 19,375 Lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight: 27,125 Lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s): 1,250 Lbs / 6 Pylons
Normal Payload: 5,000 Lbs
Maximum Payload:15,000 Lbs
Normal Combat Weight: 63,125 Lbs
Vertical Thrust-to Weight Ratio: 1.5
Forward Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 0.9
Combat Range: 1,350 Miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 40,000
Maximum Altitude: 55,000
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 2.05
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.4
Crew (List): Air Superiority (ARC-CougarA) One Crew, Ground Strike (ARC-CougarB) Two Crew
Price: 165 Million per Unit

How did you arrive at these figures?
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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:25 am

So, I found these interesting concepts today.

Do they seem remotely practical?
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:34 am

Organized States wrote:So, I found these interesting concepts today.

Do they seem remotely practical?

You know enough about how aircraft fly to know the answer.

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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:36 am

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Well That Stealth F-15J Concept is indeed interesting BUT WHY... WHY.... and WHY... The artist..forget to put very important part. The inlet boundary layer diverter. or perhaps claim that it haz a boundary layer sucker holes :3
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Postby Padnak » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:13 am

Would there be any major issues with using civilian aircraft (with no military identification markings or anything to show them as being used for military purposes) as recon aircraft? In the likely event that my air force is destroyed or rendered incapable of operations I'd like to see be able to gather intelligence about hostile ship positions and that sort of thing and I was thinking of using small civilian aircraft
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:23 am

Padnak wrote:Would there be any major issues with using civilian aircraft (with no military identification markings or anything to show them as being used for military purposes) as recon aircraft? In the likely event that my air force is destroyed or rendered incapable of operations I'd like to see be able to gather intelligence about hostile ship positions and that sort of thing and I was thinking of using small civilian aircraft


Most civilian aircraft aren't flying around with powerful search radars. If they directly see something they can report on it, but they won't have the same reconnaissance ability.

Also I'm just going to make your whole nation a no fly zone, any plane taking off will be warned to land or start getting shot at.
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Postby Glacios » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:33 am

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So, I use airships.Where should I post questions about them? I went to the warships thread since they are part of my surface navy and all but that told me to go to an old air force thread. I went to this one but Im not sure if I should post this here.



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Postby Padnak » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:34 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Padnak wrote:Would there be any major issues with using civilian aircraft (with no military identification markings or anything to show them as being used for military purposes) as recon aircraft? In the likely event that my air force is destroyed or rendered incapable of operations I'd like to see be able to gather intelligence about hostile ship positions and that sort of thing and I was thinking of using small civilian aircraft


Most civilian aircraft aren't flying around with powerful search radars. If they directly see something they can report on it, but they won't have the same reconnaissance ability.

Also I'm just going to make your whole nation a no fly zone, any plane taking off will be warned to land or start getting shot at.


:(

well there goes that plan lol
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:44 am

Glacios wrote:*Is confused*
So, I use airships.Where should I post questions about them? I went to the warships thread since they are part of my surface navy and all but that told me to go to an old air force thread. I went to this one but Im not sure if I should post this here.



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You can post airships here, they would probably also fit in the warship thread. You could also post them to the Military Realism thread.
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Postby Gallia- » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:47 am

Padnak wrote:Would there be any major issues with using civilian aircraft (with no military identification markings or anything to show them as being used for military purposes) as recon aircraft? In the likely event that my air force is destroyed or rendered incapable of operations I'd like to see be able to gather intelligence about hostile ship positions and that sort of thing and I was thinking of using small civilian aircraft


They could spot troop formations visually or do RDF maybe.

Anything else requires expensive technicians and military radars.

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Postby Glacios » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:48 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Glacios wrote:*Is confused*
So, I use airships.Where should I post questions about them? I went to the warships thread since they are part of my surface navy and all but that told me to go to an old air force thread. I went to this one but Im not sure if I should post this here.



HALP :(


You can post airships here, they would probably also fit in the warship thread. You could also post them to the Military Realism thread.

Thanks for the help. Ill post the specs for the corvettes.
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Postby Empire of Gibraltar » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:05 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Empire of Gibraltar wrote:I think I exaggerated the size, it was supposed to be based off the F35 I thought it was supposed to be small.


That's actually part of the question. It actually isn't that big, yet somehow it packs an engine that is significantly more powerful than the most powerful turbofan in service and can supercruise faster than the F-22, which has significantly more thrust (it's also heavier, but not proportionate to its thrust output). It also somehow is supposed to cruise at Mach 1.4 while having a combat range of 1,350 miles. Achieving such range at such speed would require an enormous amount of fuel, which a fighter this size is unlikely to fit. Cruising at supersonic speeds is also unlikely; aircraft cruise at subsonic speeds because supersonic speeds greatly increase drag and fuel consumption, reducing range.

I had it have much less Thrust but I thought it had to little as the T/W Ratio was only 0.6
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Postby Empire of Gibraltar » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:13 am

This is the new 5th gen fighter for the Empire of Gibratar, it is part of of the Modern AiRCraft program. They are however very expensive but will serve well on the Gibraltarian Fleets as a STOVL (Short Take Off, Vertical Landing) vehicles. Serving on the the Juan Class Carriers which are smaller nuclear carriers with more armament then a normal carrier.
Type: ARC-Cougar
Length: 55 ft
Wingspan: 37 ft
Height: 15 ft
Propulsion: GTD-135 Bumblebee Turbofan Powerplant and GTD-275 Hurricane Lift Fan
Vertical Thrust: 41,345 Lbf
Forward Thrust: 37,565 Lbf
Empty Weight: 31,000 Lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight:77,500 Lbs
Minimum Fuel Weight: 19,375 Lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight: 27,125 Lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s): 1,250 Lbs / 6 Pylons
Normal Payload: 5,000 Lbs
Maximum Payload:15,000 Lbs
Normal Combat Weight: 63,125 Lbs
Vertical Thrust-to Weight Ratio: 1.25
Forward Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 0.6
Combat Range: 560 Miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 32,000
Maximum Altitude: 43,000
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.1
Supercruising Speed: Mach 1.45
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.05
Crew (List): Air Superiority (ARC-CougarA) One Crew, Ground Strike (ARC-CougarB) Two Crew
Price: 165 Million per Unit

Oh and I forgot to mention, the Main engine swivels to face downward in VTOL mode. Yes I know this would make this the second largest fighter turbofan.
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