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Who will OP the next MGVoYN[NM] thread?

Imperializt Russia
39
25%
Anemos Major
52
33%
Questers
8
5%
Dragomere
21
13%
Dostanuot Loj
5
3%
The Kievan People
22
14%
Oaledonia
12
8%
 
Total votes : 159

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Themiclesia
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:12 am

Kimono anyone?

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Postby Shalum » Fri May 02, 2014 9:13 am

I use heavy tanks in small numbers, to work with my MBTs. They're the -really- heavy hitters of the group. The downside is that they're slow, and a lot pricier to build and maintain.
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Need a Name
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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:13 am

Zeinbrad wrote:LT-17
(Image)
Weight-about 17 to 20 tons.
Length-Um...
Armament- 50mm tank gun, with 74 shells, a MG-34 with 2,400 rounds.
Armor-25mm front, 20mm side, 15mm rear.
Radio Range-700-720m
Suspension-Know a good one?
Crew-4
Role-1939-1943 Main Battle Tank.
1943-1945-Reserve tank.

This is the first true Oaltian tank design, came into use about two years into the invasion.

Thoughts?


Looks like a pretty cool tank. My concerns are its light armor and its height. Also, I do not think it would fare well against any Medium or Heavy tanks.
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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:14 am

Shalum wrote:I use heavy tanks in small numbers, to work with my MBTs. They're the -really- heavy hitters of the group. The downside is that they're slow, and a lot pricier to build and maintain.


Any specification that you would suggest for an effective Heavy tank?
Last edited by Need a Name on Fri May 02, 2014 9:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri May 02, 2014 9:16 am

Themiclesia wrote:Kimono anyone?

(Image)


What has this got to do with military ground vehicles?

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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 02, 2014 9:16 am

Need a name wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:LT-17
(Image)
Weight-about 17 to 20 tons.
Length-Um...
Armament- 50mm tank gun, with 74 shells, a MG-34 with 2,400 rounds.
Armor-25mm front, 20mm side, 15mm rear.
Radio Range-700-720m
Suspension-Know a good one?
Crew-4
Role-1939-1943 Main Battle Tank.
1943-1945-Reserve tank.

This is the first true Oaltian tank design, came into use about two years into the invasion.

Thoughts?


Looks like a pretty cool tank. My concerns are its light armor and its height. Also, I do not think it would fare well against any Medium or Heavy tanks.

It's a Light Tank, and it was built to counter T-26's and BT's.
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Themiclesia
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:17 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:Kimono anyone?

(Image)


What has this got to do with military ground vehicles?

Oale was discussing the practicality of wearing kinomo in the operation of ground vehicles; I stand in the affirmative.
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Need a Name
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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:19 am

Zeinbrad wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Looks like a pretty cool tank. My concerns are its light armor and its height. Also, I do not think it would fare well against any Medium or Heavy tanks.

It's a Light Tank, and it was built to counter T-26's and BT's.


I saw MBT on its role from 1939-1943.

But in a role against T26s and BTs it looks like it would shred those tanks to pieces.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:21 am

Themiclesia wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
What has this got to do with military ground vehicles?

Oale was discussing the practicality of wearing kinomo in the operation of ground vehicles; I stand in the affirmative.

Won't it snag on suf when you are trying to escape from a burning tank that's about to blow up?
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Yytuskia
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Postby Yytuskia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:21 am

Need a name wrote:
Any specification that you would suggest for an effective Heavy tank?


Here. Yytuskia's premier Heavy Main Battle Tank:


‘Panzerkampfwagen VIc ‘Blut Tiger’ Model ‘Jager’
Weight: 77.68 tonnes
Length: 6.316m
Engine: Maybach HL 230 TRM P87 (V12); 1,250HP; Max Speed of 65kph
Armament: 1x 12,8cm Ferguson Manufacturing L/70 ‘KampfwagenKanone’ 98 w/ Autoloader (52 rounds: Pzgr. 98 (Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot Round), Pzgr.RE 2/01 (Armor Piercing, Composite Ridged, Element 219 Filled), 2x 14.5x114mm MG-67H(One CROW-mounted, one turret mounted)
Armor: [Chassis: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor, Depleted Uranium: 430mm/430mm/425mm)] [Turret: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/ 1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor, Depleted Uranium: 330mm/330mm/325mm)]
Radio: FuG 12 Model J.
Suspension: Leaf Coil, Torsion Bar, Interweaving Road Wheels suspension
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Loader, Commander)
Armor Angling: 45 degrees on all sides of chassis, with 30 degree angling for turret
Purpose: The Panzerkampfwagen VI Model J, nicknamed the ‘Blut Tiger’ by crew members, is Yytuskia’s response to the modernization of other country heavy tanks. Replacing the outdated ‘SchwergepanzertesKampffahrzeug 45’, which was designed in designed in 1945, the ‘Blut Tiger’ outclasses it in every way; it has better armor, a bigger gun, and faster engine which outclass some modern tanks. Made in 1987, it is well liked by its crews for its sloped armor, added with the ‘Hans’ model, and it’s fighting capacity. Two Tigers could hold their own against both a T-90A and a M1 Abrams at the same time, and could fight them to a standstill. Around 4,889 ‘Blut Tiger’s’ have been made only for the Loyalist Forces of Yytuskia.
Design: The ‘Blut Tiger’s design utilizes heavily sloped armor (45 degrees) on the chassis, as well as around 200cm altogether of armor with the out most lining being the SCRADU adding
Cost: C$989,000 per unit

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 02, 2014 9:22 am

Need a name wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:It's a Light Tank, and it was built to counter T-26's and BT's.


I saw MBT on its role from 1939-1943.

But in a role against T26s and BTs it looks like it would shred those tanks to pieces.

That means it was the Main tank of the Oatlians from then.

Good. :D
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Need a Name
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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:24 am

Yytuskia wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Any specification that you would suggest for an effective Heavy tank?


Here. Yytuskia's premier Heavy Main Battle Tank:


‘Panzerkampfwagen VIc ‘Blut Tiger’ Model ‘Jager’
Weight: 77.68 tonnes
Length: 6.316m
Engine: Maybach HL 230 TRM P87 (V12); 1,250HP; Max Speed of 65kph
Armament: 1x 12,8cm Ferguson Manufacturing L/70 ‘KampfwagenKanone’ 98 w/ Autoloader (52 rounds: Pzgr. 98 (Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot Round), Pzgr.RE 2/01 (Armor Piercing, Composite Ridged, Element 219 Filled), 2x 14.5x114mm MG-67H(One CROW-mounted, one turret mounted)
Armor: [Chassis: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor, Depleted Uranium: 430mm/430mm/425mm)] [Turret: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/ 1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor, Depleted Uranium: 330mm/330mm/325mm)]
Radio: FuG 12 Model J.
Suspension: Leaf Coil, Torsion Bar, Interweaving Road Wheels suspension
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Loader, Commander)
Armor Angling: 45 degrees on all sides of chassis, with 30 degree angling for turret
Purpose: The Panzerkampfwagen VI Model J, nicknamed the ‘Blut Tiger’ by crew members, is Yytuskia’s response to the modernization of other country heavy tanks. Replacing the outdated ‘SchwergepanzertesKampffahrzeug 45’, which was designed in designed in 1945, the ‘Blut Tiger’ outclasses it in every way; it has better armor, a bigger gun, and faster engine which outclass some modern tanks. Made in 1987, it is well liked by its crews for its sloped armor, added with the ‘Hans’ model, and it’s fighting capacity. Two Tigers could hold their own against both a T-90A and a M1 Abrams at the same time, and could fight them to a standstill. Around 4,889 ‘Blut Tiger’s’ have been made only for the Loyalist Forces of Yytuskia.
Design: The ‘Blut Tiger’s design utilizes heavily sloped armor (45 degrees) on the chassis, as well as around 200cm altogether of armor with the out most lining being the SCRADU adding
Cost: C$989,000 per unit


That sounds like a badass tank. Thanks for the help.
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Postby Yytuskia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:28 am

Need a name wrote:
That sounds like a badass tank. Thanks for the help.


*Asian voice* Yu buy tanks, yes? Yu no stear designs, yes?

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Postby Themiclesia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:29 am

Purpelia wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:Oale was discussing the practicality of wearing kinomo in the operation of ground vehicles; I stand in the affirmative.

Won't it snag on suf when you are trying to escape from a burning tank that's about to blow up?

A tank commander goes down with his tank, if he's wearing Japanese clothing. :p

I'm merely illustrating the fact that there are many types of kimono, and some (but not quite all) might lend themselves to battle use. Or you could make this kimono out of fire-resistant material.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 02, 2014 9:30 am

So, another thoughts on my tank?

Note-It is designed by an experienced tank designer,not the Oatlians.
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Need a Name
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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:31 am

Yytuskia wrote:
Need a name wrote:
That sounds like a badass tank. Thanks for the help.


*Asian voice* Yu buy tanks, yes? Yu no stear designs, yes?


I'll consider buying some of those tanks. I am engaged with a Cold War/Alliance with another nation in my region. How much are they worth in NS dollars?
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Postby Registug » Fri May 02, 2014 9:31 am

Blind leading the blind...

No, a heavy tank is not useful in the modern day. The MBT has the armour and firepower of a heavy and the mobility of a medium.
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Yytuskia
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Postby Yytuskia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:33 am

It's worth C$989,000, or 989000 Centennial Union Dollars. One C$ equals 1.25 Nation States Dollars (NS$), so times 989000 by 1.25 per unit.

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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:35 am

Registug wrote:Blind leading the blind...

No, a heavy tank is not useful in the modern day. The MBT has the armour and firepower of a heavy and the mobility of a medium.


I plan to add swaths of armor to any Heavy Tanks I purchase. The Heavy tank will give my nation another layer of tactical possibilities.
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Postby Need a Name » Fri May 02, 2014 9:36 am

Yytuskia wrote:It's worth C$989,000, or 989000 Centennial Union Dollars. One C$ equals 1.25 Nation States Dollars (NS$), so times 989000 by 1.25 per unit.


So 1,236,250 NS$ per tank?
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Postby Registug » Fri May 02, 2014 9:39 am

Need a name wrote:
Registug wrote:Blind leading the blind...

No, a heavy tank is not useful in the modern day. The MBT has the armour and firepower of a heavy and the mobility of a medium.


I plan to add swaths of armor to any Heavy Tanks I purchase. The Heavy tank will give my nation another layer of tactical possibilities.

Nope. Tanks do not work this way. I'm too tired to explain it coherantly, so just sit tight and wait for one of the others to explain it.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 02, 2014 9:41 am

Registug wrote:
Need a name wrote:
I plan to add swaths of armor to any Heavy Tanks I purchase. The Heavy tank will give my nation another layer of tactical possibilities.

Nope. Tanks do not work this way. I'm too tired to explain it coherantly, so just sit tight and wait for one of the others to explain it.

At least my tank is logical...right?
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Yytuskia
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Postby Yytuskia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:41 am

Need a name wrote:
So 1,236,250 NS$ per tank?


Divide that by your nations currency from NStracker and you got that price.

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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Fri May 02, 2014 9:45 am

Yytuskia wrote:The Pz.Kpfw Vc is actually meant to aim at weak points on other tanks and support heavies against AT crews. The L/100 is actually the serial code, while the 75mm round is specifically designed to puncture light/medium armor targets (500mm-1000mm) and medium range.

The crews also go through three years training in peacetime, while wartime is shortened to 2 1/2 years. This training allows the gunners to aim for know weak points (ie. View ports or electronics, guns, hatches etc.) and for drivers to position themselves for tactical superiority.

Hell no. There is no way a 75 mm can punch that much of armor.
Also L 100 normally means: L is calibers 100 is the number of calibers. So 75 mm L 100 will make it 7500 mm in length. 7.5 meters long gun. So you should have implied it is a serial numbers.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 02, 2014 9:47 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Yytuskia wrote:The Pz.Kpfw Vc is actually meant to aim at weak points on other tanks and support heavies against AT crews. The L/100 is actually the serial code, while the 75mm round is specifically designed to puncture light/medium armor targets (500mm-1000mm) and medium range.

The crews also go through three years training in peacetime, while wartime is shortened to 2 1/2 years. This training allows the gunners to aim for know weak points (ie. View ports or electronics, guns, hatches etc.) and for drivers to position themselves for tactical superiority.

Hell no. There is no way a 75 mm can punch that much of armor.
Also L 100 normally means: L is calibers 100 is the number of calibers. So 75 mm L 100 will make it 7500 mm in length. 7.5 meters long gun. So you should have implied it is a serial numbers.

Views on my tank?
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