Rofl yes they are.
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by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:24 am
by The New Lowlands » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:26 am
by Immoren » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:27 am
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Gallia- » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:27 am
The S 35s gave a good account of themselves, proving to be indeed superior to the German tanks in direct combat, but they were rather hesitantly deployed as the French High Command mistakenly supposed the gap was the German Schwerpunkt and tried to preserve their best tanks to block subsequent attacks by the rest of the Panzerwaffe.
by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:28 am
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:29 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:29 am
Gallia- wrote:Viritica wrote:Rofl yes they are.
Nah, lad. They aren't.The S 35s gave a good account of themselves, proving to be indeed superior to the German tanks in direct combat, but they were rather hesitantly deployed as the French High Command mistakenly supposed the gap was the German Schwerpunkt and tried to preserve their best tanks to block subsequent attacks by the rest of the Panzerwaffe.
This was fighting Pzr IIIs.Viritica wrote:The Panzer III/IV wasn't even being developed at that time.
It's 1935, of course they were.
Thankfully common sense is on my side.~
by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:29 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Viritica wrote:Since the Panzer III/IV never entered service I can't definitely say. However, I can only assume that it is since it would of had sloped armor and a long-barreled 75 mm gun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_III#Combat_use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_IV#Combat_history
uhhh
by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:30 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Viritica wrote:Since the Panzer III/IV never entered service I can't definitely say. However, I can only assume that it is since it would of had sloped armor and a long-barreled 75 mm gun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_III#Combat_use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_IV#Combat_history
uhhh
by The New Lowlands » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:30 am
by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:31 am
The New Lowlands wrote:Viritica wrote:Dude... do you even know what the fuck the Panzer III/IV is?
welding together two tanks which are both worse than the somua =/= better tank
by Macedonian Grand Empire » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:32 am
by The Kievan People » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:32 am
United states of brazilian nations wrote:
actually, if he's talking about extremely dense, muddy, umid tropical jungles, then yeah, there might be some problems.
that's one of the reasons the brazilian army uses the Leopard 1A5 instead of a proper MBT. brazil did have a proprietary MBT design - see EE-T1 and EE-T2 "Osório".
it was created specially for a saudi competition. it kicked the Abram's ass, but as always the US resorted to politic intervention and stuff, and the saudi army ultimately chose the Abrams for this very reason. it was then rejected by the brazilian army as well, since it'd be hard to use such a tank in the amazonic forest. without funds, the company that designed the Osório broke down. surely a shame - with proper upgrades, it could be easily on par, if not above, other modern tanks such as the Abrams and T-90.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:35 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Viritica » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:36 am
Viritica wrote:
That's not what it was. It was designed to take the best elements of both tanks and combine them together while using sloped armor and a long-barreled 75 mm gun.
by Oaledonia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:38 am
The PzKpfw III/IV project was cancelled because the vehicle did not meet the new requirements for armament capability and armor protection as a result of Soviet tanks
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by Gallia- » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:54 am
Viritica wrote:Gallia- wrote:
Nah, lad. They aren't.
This was fighting Pzr IIIs.
It's 1935, of course they were.
Thankfully common sense is on my side.~
Do you even know what the Panzer III/IV was.
It was a tank developed in response to the T-34, which the Germans only encountered in 1942. It was intended to have sloped armor and a long-barreled 75 mm gun which would have made it superior.
by Purpelia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:54 am
by Socialist Czechia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:55 am
The Kievan People wrote:United states of brazilian nations wrote:
actually, if he's talking about extremely dense, muddy, umid tropical jungles, then yeah, there might be some problems.
that's one of the reasons the brazilian army uses the Leopard 1A5 instead of a proper MBT. brazil did have a proprietary MBT design - see EE-T1 and EE-T2 "Osório".
it was created specially for a saudi competition. it kicked the Abram's ass, but as always the US resorted to politic intervention and stuff, and the saudi army ultimately chose the Abrams for this very reason. it was then rejected by the brazilian army as well, since it'd be hard to use such a tank in the amazonic forest. without funds, the company that designed the Osório broke down. surely a shame - with proper upgrades, it could be easily on par, if not above, other modern tanks such as the Abrams and T-90.
If you can use a Leopard 1A5 there, you can use a Leopard 2 there. That argument is not plausible.
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Purpelia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:59 am
by San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:59 am
by Gallia- » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:02 pm
by Socialist Czechia » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:04 pm
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Krasny-Volny » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:07 pm
Socialist Czechia wrote:
Except Infantry Tanks. That concept is still alive.
I imagine something with more sensors, optical sights, 30 mm cannon, 40mm few auto-grenade launchers three or four machine guns, capable of fire 360 around.
Basically, APC with much more guns and with tank armour.
by San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:08 pm
Socialist Czechia wrote:
Except Infantry Tanks. That concept is still alive.
I imagine something with more sensors, optical sights, 30 mm cannon, 40mm few auto-grenade launchers three or four machine guns, capable of fire 360 around.
Basically, APC with much more guns and with tank armour.
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