NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Premislyd]

You do know that the SKS conversion shell is basically identical (in ergonomics and appearance) to those for the AKs and even Mosins as offered by that company, right?

Yes, that's why I prefer mine in an AUG shell.

[Sevvania]

You do know that the SKS conversion shell is basically identical (in ergonomics and appearance) to those for the AKs and even Mosins as offered by that company, right?

Yes, that's why I prefer mine in an AUG shell.

I very much like this one, although it seems like it could be in need of a cheek rest.

[Bezombia]

Yes, that's why I prefer mine in an AUG shell.

I very much like this one, although it seems like it could be in need of a cheek rest.

Cheek rest? Bah! You'll use the hot spent cases as they're ejecting as a cheek rest, and you'll like it!

[Purpelia]

trigger? you know that part?

Dammit.

E: I'm going to go ahead and assume that a PCAP-mounted trigger is unfeasible.

If you go for electric ignition and powered rails you can put the trigger anywhere.

[Serretes]

Another question, should guerrilla-paratrooper forces carry more then three days of food if they are going to be in the field for at least a month?

You're using paratroopers wrong if you intend to use them as guerrilla-forces.

Idrc though, but yes, they should carry more than three days of food if they're in the field for about four weeks.

Well, I mean to use parachutes to deploy them behind enemy lines where they will act as guerillas. Somewhat like the Green Berets. The parachutes are only to get them to the area that they will be maintaining. But thank you nonetheless.

[Sevvania]

Too much bullpup SKS for NS.

It has a Cold War prototype kinda look to it, doesn't it?

[Bezombia]

Actually this could still work. Have the trigger be interrupting the PCAPs, but still have a line of PCAPs behind (and in front; beauty of having a magazine that protrudes out the side instead of bottom) the trigger, so you can either attach a pistol grip and buttstock or a one-piece-fits-all rifle stock.

[Imperializt Russia]

You do know that the SKS conversion shell is basically identical (in ergonomics and appearance) to those for the AKs and even Mosins as offered by that company, right?

Yes, that's why I prefer mine in an AUG shell.

Very interesting, but I prefer some of the CBRPS designs.

[Premislyd]

So after playing BF4, I decided to make a Val thing

[Imperializt Russia]

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So after playing BF4, I decided to make a Val thing

Very nice.

I can't help but think the trunnion and upper handguard could do with a little something thrown on them.

[Premislyd]

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So after playing BF4, I decided to make a Val thing

Very nice.

I can't help but think the trunnion and upper handguard could do with a little something thrown on them.

I was thinking about adding rails on the upper handguard, but figured the side receiver rail kinda made it pointless. I don't know how the AS Val disassembles, so I just left the trunnion as is until I can find a decent picture.

[Black Hand]

You're using paratroopers wrong if you intend to use them as guerrilla-forces.

Idrc though, but yes, they should carry more than three days of food if they're in the field for about four weeks.

Well, I mean to use parachutes to deploy them behind enemy lines where they will act as guerillas. Somewhat like the Green Berets. The parachutes are only to get them to the area that they will be maintaining. But thank you nonetheless.

Then you intend to have them arm and train rebel forces? Parachute in and give them a biweekly supply drop of arms, ammunition medical supplies and food. that was one way vietnam's environment worked in favor of the US was that it was relatively easy to Drop in supplies for covert operations.

@Prem
disassembly is the Same as an AK

[Imperializt Russia]

If you change the handguard to be more reminiscent of the SR-3M, then the trunnion is obscured (and the SR-3 does not have an obvious trunnion either).


http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/416
Also, late-model VALs also appear to not feature exposed trunnion.

[Kommeria]

So this is how my ground forces are set up. The region I RP in has population rules, Kommeria has 7,630,000 residents and an army 183,000 strong that's spilt into fourteen divisions.

6 Infantry Divisions
3 Armored Divisions
2 Special Forces Divisions
1 Airborne Infantry Divisions
2 Air Corps Divisions (Helicopters and CAS jets, deployed in regiments with other divisions)

Division
---Division Command Battalion
------1,000 personnel
------200 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------50 Medium Transport Trucks
------20 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Command Versions)

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Cavalry Battalion
------2,500 Personnel
------80 Light Tanks
------170 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------50 Infantry Mobility Vehicles

---Air Corps Battalion
------3,000 Personnel
------20 Attack Helicopters
------20 Scout Helicopter
------40 Utility Helicopters
------10 Ground-Attack Aircraft

Division
---Division Command Battalion
------1,000 personnel
------200 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------50 Medium Transport Trucks
------20 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Command Versions)

---Mounted Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------510 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------15 Howitzers

---Mounted Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------510 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------15 Howitzers

---Armored Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------120 Main Battle Tanks
------130 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------310 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------15 Self Propelled Howitzers

---Armored Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------120 Main Battle Tanks
------130 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------310 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------15 Self Propelled Howitzers

---Air Corps Battalion
------3,000 Personnel
------20 Attack Helicopters
------20 Scout Helicopter
------40 Utility Helicopters
------10 Ground-Attack Aircraft

Division
---Division Command Battalion
------1,000 personnel
------200 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------50 Medium Transport Trucks
------20 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Command Versions)

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Armored Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------100 Light Tanks
------125 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------310 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------15 Self Propelled Howitzers

---Air Corps Battalion
------3,000 Personnel
------20 Attack Helicopters
------20 Scout Helicopter
------40 Utility Helicopters
------10 Ground-Attack Aircraft

---Air Corps Battalion
------2,000 Personnel
------5 Heavy Cargo Transport
------10 Cargo Transport
------25 Troop Transport
------15 Support Aircraft (ei AWACs, Tankers)

Division
---Stormtrooper Regiment
------4,500
------200 fast attack vehicles
------50 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------300 Infantry Mobility Vehicles

---Airborne Commando Regiment
------4,000
------300 fast attack vehicles
------250 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------80 Light Tanks
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles

---Airborne Commando Regiment
------4,000
------300 fast attack vehicles
------250 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------80 Light Tanks
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles

Thats from my factbook. Btw.

Standard Issue Rifle- Remington ACR
$2,680
Chambered in 6.8×43mm SPC.
Usually equipped with a foregrip, PEQ box and a combat scope.

____________________________________

Stormtrooper Issue Rifle- Remington Model 416
(HK416)
$2,300
Chambered in 5.56x45mm and issued to stormtroopers.
Usually equipped with a foregrip, PEQ-2 and a holographic sight.

____________________________________

General Purpose Machine Gun- M60E3
$6,000
Chambered in 7.62x51mm.
Usually equipped with a detachable bet box that holds 100 rounds

____________________________________

Sniper Rifle- Remington 700
$2,120
Chambered in 5.56x45mm, 7.62x51mm or .338 Lapua magnum.
Equipped with a high power scope and a bipod, sometimes a
sound suppressor.

____________________________________

Standard Issue Pistol- Remington 1911R1
$940
Chambered in .45 Auto and equipped with a 8 round magazine.
Issued to all NCOs, Officers, vehicle crews and pilots.

____________________________________

Fast Attack Vehicle- Growler
(Growler ITV, United States of America)
$41,800
Airdropable fast attack jeep with a 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine.
Seats four and can carry 2,000lbs of cargo and mount a M2 Heavy
Machine Gun or a automatic grenade launcher.

____________________________________

Infantry Mobility Vehicle- Coyote IMV
(Cobra IMV, Turkey)
$320,000
Semi-amphibious infantry mobility vehicle with a 6.5 liter turbo
diesel. Turret can mount up to a 20mm chain gun and the V-shaped
hull provides protection from small arms fire, shrapnel, and mines.

____________________________________

Infantry Fighting Vehicle- ARV-3 Ingham
(LAV III, Canada)
$2,250,000
A 17 ton Infantry Fighting Vehicle that can transport an armed
squad of eight. Armed with 25mm chain gun, two 7.62s and
anti-tank missiles (not pictured.) Named after General Don
Ingham, head of Kommerian operations in WW1.

____________________________________

Light Tank- ACV-93 Raptor
(Sprut Tank Destroyer, Russian Federation)
$3,200,000
A airdropable semi-amphibious 13 ton light tank. Half of it's
weight is owed to it's 105mm gun. Additional (not pictured)
equipment includes a 7.62 LMG, two anti-tank missiles and
explosive reactive armor tiles.

____________________________________

Main Battle Tank- Lambert 2A5
(Leopard 2A5, Germany)
$6,350,000
62 Ton, third generation MBT named after the Kommerian
WWII general who helped turn the war in the allies favor.
The Lambert 2A5 features a 120mm with a high-tech fire control
system. It also carries a coaxial 7.62 and a .50 cal. The Lambert 2A4
still serves with the 5th Armored, to be replaced completly in 2016.

____________________________________

Utility Helicopter- UH-6D Mohawk
$26,200,000
The UH-6 Mohawk has been the workhorse of the Kommerian
military since the early 1960's. The helicopter can carry
3,800lbs of cargo, including up to 12 soldiers. Commonly
armed with two door miniguns on each side. Powered by a
gas turbine.

____________________________________

Attack Helicopter- AH-23Z Viper
$31,000,000
The AH-23 series has been the warhorse of the Kommerian
military since the late 1960's and set the precedent for all
attack helicopter designs to follow. The Viper is most modern
model, armed with 2 rocket pods, 2 Short range air-to-air missiles
8 Anti-Tank Missiles, and a 20mm gatling gun capable of 1500rpm.
Oorah.

____________________________________

Combat Recon Helicopter- RH-53 Warrior
$11,600,000
The RH-58 Warrior is a small, nimble scout helicopter that excels
when it is teamed with a pair of Vipers in a hunter-killer role.
The Warrior is a capable close-air support craft, able to carry a two
.50 caliber machine guns, rocket pods, AGMs (2) or gatling guns.

^Guns and Vehicles^

Deployments and other stuff can be found in my factbook. Click these colored words.

[Bezombia]

Is there any real difference, other than stock/barrel length, between the VSS and AS?

[Imperializt Russia]

So this is how my ground forces are set up. The region I RP in has population rules, Kommeria has 7,630,000 residents and an army 183,000 strong that's spilt into fourteen divisions.

6 Infantry Divisions
3 Armored Divisions
2 Special Forces Divisions
1 Airborne Infantry Divisions
2 Air Corps Divisions (Helicopters and CAS jets, deployed in regiments with other divisions)

Division
---Division Command Battalion
------1,000 personnel
------200 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------50 Medium Transport Trucks
------20 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Command Versions)

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Cavalry Battalion
------2,500 Personnel
------80 Light Tanks
------170 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------50 Infantry Mobility Vehicles

---Air Corps Battalion
------3,000 Personnel
------20 Attack Helicopters
------20 Scout Helicopter
------40 Utility Helicopters
------10 Ground-Attack Aircraft

Division
---Division Command Battalion
------1,000 personnel
------200 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------50 Medium Transport Trucks
------20 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Command Versions)

---Mounted Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------510 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------15 Howitzers

---Mounted Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------510 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------15 Howitzers

---Armored Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------120 Main Battle Tanks
------130 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------310 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------15 Self Propelled Howitzers

---Armored Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------120 Main Battle Tanks
------130 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------310 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------15 Self Propelled Howitzers

---Air Corps Battalion
------3,000 Personnel
------20 Attack Helicopters
------20 Scout Helicopter
------40 Utility Helicopters
------10 Ground-Attack Aircraft

Division
---Division Command Battalion
------1,000 personnel
------200 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------50 Medium Transport Trucks
------20 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Command Versions)

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Infantry Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------750 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------500 Medium Transport Trucks
------15 Howitzers

---Armored Regiment
------3,000 Personnel
------100 Light Tanks
------125 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------310 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------15 Self Propelled Howitzers

---Air Corps Battalion
------3,000 Personnel
------20 Attack Helicopters
------20 Scout Helicopter
------40 Utility Helicopters
------10 Ground-Attack Aircraft

---Air Corps Battalion
------2,000 Personnel
------5 Heavy Cargo Transport
------10 Cargo Transport
------25 Troop Transport
------15 Support Aircraft (ei AWACs, Tankers)

Division
---Stormtrooper Regiment
------4,500
------200 fast attack vehicles
------50 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
------300 Infantry Mobility Vehicles

---Airborne Commando Regiment
------4,000
------300 fast attack vehicles
------250 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------80 Light Tanks
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles

---Airborne Commando Regiment
------4,000
------300 fast attack vehicles
------250 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
------80 Light Tanks
------100 Infantry Fighting Vehicles

Thats from my factbook. Btw.

(Image)

Standard Issue Rifle- Remington ACR
$2,680
Chambered in 6.8×43mm SPC.
Usually equipped with a foregrip, PEQ box and a combat scope.

____________________________________

(Image)

Stormtrooper Issue Rifle- Remington Model 416
(HK416)
$2,300
Chambered in 5.56x45mm and issued to stormtroopers.
Usually equipped with a foregrip, PEQ-2 and a holographic sight.

____________________________________

(Image)

General Purpose Machine Gun- M60E3
$6,000
Chambered in 7.62x51mm.
Usually equipped with a detachable bet box that holds 100 rounds

____________________________________

(Image)

Sniper Rifle- Remington 700
$2,120
Chambered in 5.56x45mm, 7.62x51mm or .338 Lapua magnum.
Equipped with a high power scope and a bipod, sometimes a
sound suppressor.

____________________________________

(Image)

Standard Issue Pistol- Remington 1911R1
$940
Chambered in .45 Auto and equipped with a 8 round magazine.
Issued to all NCOs, Officers, vehicle crews and pilots.

____________________________________

(Image)

Fast Attack Vehicle- Growler
(Growler ITV, United States of America)
$41,800
Airdropable fast attack jeep with a 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine.
Seats four and can carry 2,000lbs of cargo and mount a M2 Heavy
Machine Gun or a automatic grenade launcher.

____________________________________

(Image)

Infantry Mobility Vehicle- Coyote IMV
(Cobra IMV, Turkey)
$320,000
Semi-amphibious infantry mobility vehicle with a 6.5 liter turbo
diesel. Turret can mount up to a 20mm chain gun and the V-shaped
hull provides protection from small arms fire, shrapnel, and mines.

____________________________________

(Image)

Infantry Fighting Vehicle- ARV-3 Ingham
(LAV III, Canada)
$2,250,000
A 17 ton Infantry Fighting Vehicle that can transport an armed
squad of eight. Armed with 25mm chain gun, two 7.62s and
anti-tank missiles (not pictured.) Named after General Don
Ingham, head of Kommerian operations in WW1.

____________________________________

(Image)

Light Tank- ACV-93 Raptor
(Sprut Tank Destroyer, Russian Federation)
$3,200,000
A airdropable semi-amphibious 13 ton light tank. Half of it's
weight is owed to it's 105mm gun. Additional (not pictured)
equipment includes a 7.62 LMG, two anti-tank missiles and
explosive reactive armor tiles.

____________________________________

(Image)

Main Battle Tank- Lambert 2A5
(Leopard 2A5, Germany)
$6,350,000
62 Ton, third generation MBT named after the Kommerian
WWII general who helped turn the war in the allies favor.
The Lambert 2A5 features a 120mm with a high-tech fire control
system. It also carries a coaxial 7.62 and a .50 cal. The Lambert 2A4
still serves with the 5th Armored, to be replaced completly in 2016.

____________________________________

(Image)

Utility Helicopter- UH-6D Mohawk
$26,200,000
The UH-6 Mohawk has been the workhorse of the Kommerian
military since the early 1960's. The helicopter can carry
3,800lbs of cargo, including up to 12 soldiers. Commonly
armed with two door miniguns on each side. Powered by a
gas turbine.

____________________________________

(Image)

Attack Helicopter- AH-23Z Viper
$31,000,000
The AH-23 series has been the warhorse of the Kommerian
military since the late 1960's and set the precedent for all
attack helicopter designs to follow. The Viper is most modern
model, armed with 2 rocket pods, 2 Short range air-to-air missiles
8 Anti-Tank Missiles, and a 20mm gatling gun capable of 1500rpm.
Oorah.

____________________________________

(Image)

Combat Recon Helicopter- RH-53 Warrior
$11,600,000
The RH-58 Warrior is a small, nimble scout helicopter that excels
when it is teamed with a pair of Vipers in a hunter-killer role.
The Warrior is a capable close-air support craft, able to carry a two
.50 caliber machine guns, rocket pods, AGMs (2) or gatling guns.

^Guns and Vehicles^

Deployments and other stuff can be found in my factbook. Click these colored words.

I feel your infantry divisions could do with battle tanks, though it doesn't appear to be mechanised. Is it just a motorised formation? I did see "light tanks" in there.

This is more a query for the Realism Consultancy Thread.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278931

[Kommeria]

...

I feel your infantry divisions could do with battle tanks, though it doesn't appear to be mechanised. Is it just a motorised formation? I did see "light tanks" in there.

This is more a query for the Realism Consultancy Thread.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278931

At the moment, yes, the Infantry divisions aren't truly mechanized. One of my armored divisions is in the process of trading L2A4 MBTs for L2A5s, so those tanks would probably be distributed to Infantry divisions that are likely to be deployed in the near future.

Also, I kinda forgot about the realism thread, thankyou.

[Premislyd]

Got a bit "carried away"

[Bezombia]

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Got a bit "carried away"

I like the top one a lot

[Imperializt Russia]

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Got a bit "carried away"

No complaints.
Only adoration.

[Spreewerke]

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Got a bit "carried away"

Don't forget your helmet stock model (SR3-MP).

[San-Silvacian]

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Got a bit "carried away"

thwip thwip thwip thwip

[Sevvania]

I'd like to know more about the UTS-15, particularly whether or not it would be suited for military use in an MT or PMT setting.

It seems good on paper: relatively high capacity, dual tubes, pump action to allow for cycling of even lower-powered ammunition, and a compact bullpup configuration, but there are probably some disadvantages and downsides I've missed.

[Bezombia]

I'd like to know more about the UTS-15, particularly whether or not it would be suited for military use in an MT or PMT setting.
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It seems good on paper: relatively high capacity, dual tubes, pump action to allow for cycling of even lower-powered ammunition, and a compact bullpup configuration, but there are probably some disadvantages and downsides I've missed.

Too hipster. Use KSG.

[Imperializt Russia]

It just looks huge and bulky and it's probably heavy.
Especially for combat use, you'd want a much smaller and lighter shotgun, hence the existence of underslung weapons.