NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #4

[Republica Newland]

So anyways is anyone interested in writing up a guide to create a military? Am willing to help the best I can although not that knowledgeable myself.

[Questers]

>Divisions

ial outdated formations

real armies just have brigades

What is outdated about divisions? Russia is now returning to them.

source plz you never told me this.

[Questers]

So anyways is anyone interested in writing up a guide to create a military? Am willing to help the best I can although not that knowledgeable myself.

https://sites.google.com/site/nsmatinsk ... y-military

[Immoren]

I calculated approximately/roughly I've twice (at least?) the "tank" divisions compared to Questers, but mine are two brigade divisions then again.

[Questers]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/870 ... ssiers.png

that is what a questarian tank division looks like

[Immoren]

Lean, mean armoured division.

[Questers]

Lean, mean armoured division.

How many tanks per battalion? Do armoured infantry have tanks in their subunits?

It's possible a Questarian tank regiment has more tanks than your division. :>

And they are small divisions. They're as lean as I could really get them.

Btw I dont like the two subunit structure. So what do you do with one tank division, where holding one brigade in reserve means you lose 50% of your combat power? If you make ad-hoc firegroups, then why not just have smaller, or more, subunits?

[Immoren]

Lean, mean armoured division.

How many tanks per battalion? Do armoured infantry have tanks in their subunits?

It's possible a Questarian tank regiment has more tanks than your division. :>

And they are small divisions. They're as lean as I could really get them.

Btw I dont like the two subunit structure. So what do you do with one tank division, where holding one brigade in reserve means you lose 50% of your combat power? If you make ad-hoc firegroups, then why not just have smaller, or more, subunits?

I haven't calculated yet.
It was based on how in bygone times in FDF former armoured brigade would've been used, that is one armoured brigade and one jaegers brigade (apc infantry) would advance on same axis. I just turned this ad-hoc composition to "permanent" structure. My other divisions have more brigades.

[Republica Newland]

So anyways is anyone interested in writing up a guide to create a military? Am willing to help the best I can although not that knowledgeable myself.

https://sites.google.com/site/nsmatinsk ... y-military

Good info but not very comprehensive.

[Questers]

https://sites.google.com/site/nsmatinsk ... y-military

Good info but not very comprehensive.

it is supposed to be for beginners, who often do not want to read a several thousand word essay on how to structure a division.

I would write more articles but don't know how to start.

[Imperializt Russia]

>Divisions

ial outdated formations

real armies just have brigades

What is outdated about divisions? Russia is now returning to them.

Returning? I thought they were only just moving to the Regimental system.

[Republica Newland]

I need something higher than First Lieutenant and lower than Captain. ( or alternatively something higher than Captain but lower than Major )

Edit: Maybe a First Captain, 2nd Captain?

[Imperializt Russia]

There is such a thing as a Lieutenant-Captain.

It's an old rank, largely disused. But it exists.
Many ranks have a Lieutenant modifier.

[Republica Newland]

There is such a thing as a Lieutenant-Captain.

It's an old rank, largely disused. But it exists.
Many ranks have a Lieutenant modifier.

I suppose higher than Brigade level you have no designated 2ic, yes? You'd need Second Corps General / First Corps General and so on and I don't think anyone does that. Your primary advisers would be those that are immediately subordinated to you ( e.g. Brigadiers for Corps Generals )

[Imperializt Russia]

Presumably, you have a command staff who delegate broad orders and objectives to the fighting commanders of the combat formations beneath them who form up comprehensive battle plans, down to the commander of the infantry section who explains to his fireteams, in great detail, how they're going to engage a single isolated machine gun position.

[Questers]

I need something higher than First Lieutenant and lower than Captain. ( or alternatively something higher than Captain but lower than Major )

Edit: Maybe a First Captain, 2nd Captain?

Captain First Class, Captain Second Class.

[Republica Newland]

I need something higher than First Lieutenant and lower than Captain. ( or alternatively something higher than Captain but lower than Major )

Edit: Maybe a First Captain, 2nd Captain?

Captain First Class, Captain Second Class.

That sounds too private-y . I did Lieutenant Captain instead

[East Vlaricstan]

I was listening to 99 Red Balloons earlier today, and I suddenly though, can a large swarm of balloons(or anything, for that matter) cause early-warning radar to go off?

[Imperializt Russia]

What did you actually want a Lieutenant-Captain level rank for?

[Republica Newland]

What did you actually want a Lieutenant-Captain level rank for?

My main ranks ( at least for land forces ). I think I'm done:



Yes I know the Brigadier is usually considered a General but I wanted it to be this way as Divisions are significantly larger than Brigades and the number of personnel they command is more in the senior officer ballpark

[Imperializt Russia]

I believe that the 2ic of a Company would traditionally be the commander of the first Platoon - likely a Lieutenant.

Obviously nothing objectively wrong with designating this person as a Lieutenant-Captain, or creating the rank to exist solely as a component of the command section.

[Immoren]

Finland has "yliluutnantti' between (first) lieutenant and captain. Literally translates as overlieutenant. It's been translated as senior lieutenant.

[Republica Newland]

I believe that the 2ic of a Company would traditionally be the commander of the first Platoon - likely a Lieutenant.

Obviously nothing objectively wrong with designating this person as a Lieutenant-Captain, or creating the rank to exist solely as a component of the command section.

From what point onwards go commanders generally stop "commanding" subunits ? ( e.g. a Squad cmdr. will command one of the two fireteams instead of having designated subalterns do the job as would be the case with a Division General and his Brigadiers )

[Republica Newland]

Also, fucking fuck. I completely missed Army Groups between Region and Theater. Better go fix that.

EDIT: I'll end up with a lulzy 7-star top general lolz. But his insignia will look cool. Imagine the US 6-star insignia enclosed in a hollowed out oversized star

[Imperializt Russia]

Depends on the force and what sort of unit it is.
Battalion commanders are probably still combat personnel.