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Who would you like for CYOE 5's OP?

Celritannia
10
9%
Paragania
5
4%
New Visegrad
5
4%
New Tsavon
37
32%
Korva
32
28%
Bratislavskaya
4
4%
NirvashTypeTheEND
9
8%
Kouralia
12
11%
 
Total votes : 114

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:43 am

Paragania wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Since there is a MASSIVE camera blister under the nose, that I don't see extended to look rearwards. And from what else I saw of the prototype P.125 and the drawing of Parag, there is no such blister covering the rear aspect. Same with IRST, there is nowhere to put it. And even if there were a rear-facing IRST system, it'd be half-blinded by the engine exhaust.

Here is a pic showing where the cameras are...

Also, why do you have such a need to prove to me that an F-18 would shoot down my plane? And HOW do you know that it would be behind my plane? What if my plane was behind your plane?

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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:45 am

Paragania wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Since there is a MASSIVE camera blister under the nose, that I don't see extended to look rearwards. And from what else I saw of the prototype P.125 and the drawing of Parag, there is no such blister covering the rear aspect. Same with IRST, there is nowhere to put it. And even if there were a rear-facing IRST system, it'd be half-blinded by the engine exhaust.

Here is a pic showing where the cameras are...

Also, why do you have such a need to prove to me that an F-18 would shoot down my plane? And HOW do you know that it would be behind my plane? What if my plane was behind your plane?

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Thanks for clarifying camera positions. Still doesn't change that the RIO of my two-seater weaponised Growler can look out the rear of the perspex, and isn't resolution limited by data flow from a stack of cameras. (Mk 1 eyeball is ridiculously high-res and ridiculously wide FOV. Far superior to an array of cameras, in my humble opinion.)

In other unrelated news, I just dislike drones or :not:drones. Proper fighters should have a canopy as far as I'm concerned.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:47 am

Yukonastan wrote:
Paragania wrote:Here is a pic showing where the cameras are...

Also, why do you have such a need to prove to me that an F-18 would shoot down my plane? And HOW do you know that it would be behind my plane? What if my plane was behind your plane?

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Thanks for clarifying camera positions. Still doesn't change that the RIO of my two-seater weaponised Growler can look out the rear of the perspex, and isn't resolution limited by data flow from a stack of cameras. (Mk 1 eyeball is ridiculously high-res and ridiculously wide FOV. Far superior to an array of cameras, in my humble opinion.)

In other unrelated news, I just dislike drones or :not:drones. Proper fighters should have a canopy as far as I'm concerned.

As long as a "proper fighter" is supposed to be more detectable on radar, sure.
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:53 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
Thanks for clarifying camera positions. Still doesn't change that the RIO of my two-seater weaponised Growler can look out the rear of the perspex, and isn't resolution limited by data flow from a stack of cameras. (Mk 1 eyeball is ridiculously high-res and ridiculously wide FOV. Far superior to an array of cameras, in my humble opinion.)

In other unrelated news, I just dislike drones or :not:drones. Proper fighters should have a canopy as far as I'm concerned.

As long as a "proper fighter" is supposed to be more detectable on radar, sure.


Hey, it looks too much like a drone to me. And I find drones sort of ugly in a way. Don't hate on me for it.
(Also metalized perspex canopy is opaque to radar if I recall correctly).
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:54 am

Yukonastan wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:As long as a "proper fighter" is supposed to be more detectable on radar, sure.


Hey, it looks too much like a drone to me. And I find drones sort of ugly in a way. Don't hate on me for it.
(Also metalized perspex canopy is opaque to radar if I recall correctly).

Scan Eagle is fucking sexy and you should feel bad.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:00 am

Yukonastan wrote:Thanks for clarifying camera positions. Still doesn't change that the RIO of my two-seater weaponised Growler can look out the rear of the perspex, and isn't resolution limited by data flow from a stack of cameras. (Mk 1 eyeball is ridiculously high-res and ridiculously wide FOV. Far superior to an array of cameras, in my humble opinion.)

ngl, but surely by the time the P.125 is close enough to your F18 to spot and identify the hostile aircraft by the naked eye, you're fucked anyway?

In other unrelated news, I just dislike drones or :not:drones. Proper fighters should have a canopy as far as I'm concerned.

The P.125 isn't a 'not!Drone'. It was to be the British Lightning, but as many have predicted it will do for much of the European aerospace defence industry, the Lightning killed it.

In the 1980s the British MoD and the US DoD both conducted studies into lift jet solutions. The US studies eventually lead to the F-35 Lightning II. In 1988 the Tornado-sized P.125 design was intended to meet the requirements for a supersonic stealthy STOVL interdictor. There were to be non-STOVL and STOVL variants of the P.125. Both had a single reheated (afterburning) turbofan with a vectorable rear nozzle. The STOVL variant would have maintained vertical flight using three jet lift nozzles. The pilot of the P.125 would have sat highly reclined and would have not have had direct sight of the outside world. In the 1990s the UK government decided to join the JSF (now F-35) programme rather than continue the P.125.
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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:03 am

Kouralia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Thanks for clarifying camera positions. Still doesn't change that the RIO of my two-seater weaponised Growler can look out the rear of the perspex, and isn't resolution limited by data flow from a stack of cameras. (Mk 1 eyeball is ridiculously high-res and ridiculously wide FOV. Far superior to an array of cameras, in my humble opinion.)

ngl, but surely by the time the P.125 is close enough to your F18 to spot and identify the hostile aircraft by the naked eye, you're fucked anyway?

In other unrelated news, I just dislike drones or :not:drones. Proper fighters should have a canopy as far as I'm concerned.

The P.125 isn't a 'not!Drone'. It was to be the British Lightning, but as many have predicted it will do for much of the European aerospace defence industry, the Lightning killed it.

In the 1980s the British MoD and the US DoD both conducted studies into lift jet solutions. The US studies eventually lead to the F-35 Lightning II. In 1988 the Tornado-sized P.125 design was intended to meet the requirements for a supersonic stealthy STOVL interdictor. There were to be non-STOVL and STOVL variants of the P.125. Both had a single reheated (afterburning) turbofan with a vectorable rear nozzle. The STOVL variant would have maintained vertical flight using three jet lift nozzles. The pilot of the P.125 would have sat highly reclined and would have not have had direct sight of the outside world. In the 1990s the UK government decided to join the JSF (now F-35) programme rather than continue the P.125.

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Looks like a drone, can be confused for a drone, and would probably have been fairly easy to convert to a drone.
AKA a :not:drone in my book.

(Like the QF16, even if that thing can still be flown manned.)
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:09 am

Yukonastan wrote:Looks like a drone, can be confused for a drone, and would probably have been fairly easy to convert to a drone.
AKA a :not:drone in my book.

(Like the QF16, even if that thing can still be flown manned.)

You realise that definition includes like 90% of all planes ever?

Heck, this is the drone prototype of something which is meant to eventually look like this. This is unmanned and so is this.
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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:11 am

Kouralia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Looks like a drone, can be confused for a drone, and would probably have been fairly easy to convert to a drone.
AKA a :not:drone in my book.

(Like the QF16, even if that thing can still be flown manned.)

You realise that definition includes like 90% of all planes ever?

Heck, this is the drone prototype of something which is meant to eventually look like this. This is unmanned and so is this.


I don't think the QF16 looks like a drone until you look in the 'pit. Which is also true of most aircraft. They can't be confused for drones, and don't look like 'em to begin with. Even if they can/have been converted to drones.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:23 am

Good to see Yuko still the trying to act like he knows stuff.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:28 am

San-Silvacian wrote:Good to see Yuko still the trying to act like he knows stuff.

*** 3 day ban *** for the flamebait. Your record warrants it.

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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:33 am

Anyhoo, does anyone have any new designs that needs looked at?
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:46 am

Yukonastan wrote:
Kouralia wrote:You realise that definition includes like 90% of all planes ever?

Heck, this is the drone prototype of something which is meant to eventually look like this. This is unmanned and so is this.


I don't think the QF16 looks like a drone until you look in the 'pit. Which is also true of most aircraft. They can't be confused for drones, and don't look like 'em to begin with. Even if they can/have been converted to drones.

Yep.
Cuz in modern combat, you're close enough to tell.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:58 am

An argument on what looks like a drone?

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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:01 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:An argument on what looks like a drone?

(Image)


Picture broken, unfortunately.

But the argument is over now.
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Postby New Visegrad » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:18 am

Yukonastan wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:An argument on what looks like a drone?

(Image)


Picture broken, unfortunately.

But the argument is over now.

Michael Jackson eating popcorn.

I think this is pretty clearly a drone
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:32 am

The Lendol Archipelago wrote:Anyhoo, does anyone have any new designs that needs looked at?

As it happens, I do. And it has a canopy!

This started as my :not!:J-10, but in order to improve the aesthetics, I changed the intake layouts to get a :not!:Gripen. And now, for some reason the side profile looks like a MiG-23. I've already been informed that the wing should be moved to the bottom of the fuselage rather than the middle for greater structural strength, but beyond that, are there any other problems that aviation-physics-people can see? I was wondering in particular if the tail fin seemed too short length-wise.

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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:10 pm

Just a heads-up, I can't see postimg links here, they 403 at the firewall. Imgur works like a charm, however. Someone mind imgur'ing Soode's :not:j10?
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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:17 pm

I should draw an Integral Goat-powered Noise-suppressed Overpowered Reduction of Entropy and Deviousness cannon, or IGNORED cannon.

It'd be a gun to rival all others, to be used whenever a godmodder or metagamer shows their face.
It works like this.

It's fired like any other cannon, but the shell it fires is an OP-sanctioned CAMAG cluster thermobaric shell. CAMAG stands for Combined Anti-Metagaming and Anti-Godmodding munition.

This shell has the ability to defy the laws of physics to always find its target, no matter the range. When it goes off, it cleanses the offending target area of anything the OP has deemed to be godmodding or metagaming, and nothing else.

Thoughts?
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:39 pm

Yukonastan wrote:Thoughts?

That's what the Ymir is. Just less obvious and more atomic.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:41 pm

Yukonastan wrote:I should draw an Integral Goat-powered Noise-suppressed Overpowered Reduction of Entropy and Deviousness cannon, or IGNORED cannon.

It'd be a gun to rival all others, to be used whenever a godmodder or metagamer shows their face.
It works like this.

It's fired like any other cannon, but the shell it fires is an OP-sanctioned CAMAG cluster thermobaric shell. CAMAG stands for Combined Anti-Metagaming and Anti-Godmodding munition.

This shell has the ability to defy the laws of physics to always find its target, no matter the range. When it goes off, it cleanses the offending target area of anything the OP has deemed to be godmodding or metagaming, and nothing else.

Thoughts?



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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:43 pm

Korva wrote:Shitty interwar tankette.
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Looks like it'd beat my tankette any day :P
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:43 pm

Korva wrote:Shitty interwar tankette.
(Image)


add sovjet banner

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Postby Servinta » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:43 pm

ALT-12 amphibious tank


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