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Who should OP the next MMW thread?

Yes I am Biop
7
9%
Ulfr-Reich
15
19%
Vareiln
2
3%
Coltarin
6
8%
Risen Britannia
38
49%
Beano
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13%
 
Total votes : 78

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San-Silvacian
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon May 13, 2013 1:50 pm

Premislyd wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
AK-47 is a blanket term used the Soviets and later, CIA, for the first series of prototypes and early production model AKs. The AKM is the best known AK and is commonly called an AK-47 because of the CIA and Soviet blanket term.

So, no. gtfo.


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But now you ruined it for taking it seriously, thx


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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Premislyd wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
AK-47 is a blanket term used the Soviets and later, CIA, for the first series of prototypes and early production model AKs. The AKM is the best known AK and is commonly called an AK-47 because of the CIA and Soviet blanket term.

So, no. gtfo.


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But now you ruined it for taking it seriously, thx


You ruined it by not making it funny.
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Postby Premislyd » Mon May 13, 2013 1:53 pm

Benomia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
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But now you ruined it for taking it seriously, thx


You ruined it by not making it funny.


It was funny for me <3
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Postby Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:56 pm

Benomia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:Also any basic data?


I already have an entire IC history to it, but data isn't as plentiful.

7.62x25mm Tokerev+P (military designation .30 TTok), straight blowback operated, single action. Other than that, no.

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Yea, that's it. I like it now.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 13, 2013 1:57 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Benomia wrote:
I already have an entire IC history to it, but data isn't as plentiful.

7.62x25mm Tokerev+P (military designation .30 TTok), straight blowback operated, single action. Other than that, no.

Image

Yea, that's it. I like it now.

l8

Already a new version out.
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Postby Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:58 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Yea, that's it. I like it now.

l8

Already a new version out.

And I happen to prefer this one.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 13, 2013 1:59 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:l8

Already a new version out.

And I happen to prefer this one.

Have fun not shooting things I guess. :/
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:01 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Yea, that's it. I like it now.

l8

Already a new version out.


That version was a one-off. I've moved the magazine forward to make room for some springs and stuff in the grip, because, frankly, the hammerless version just looked ugly.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:09 pm

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Latest, possibly last, version.
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 2:09 pm

The description of that glorious 50mm broadsword cartridge:
The U.H.Q.G. is famous for it's cruel and terrifying designs, one such example is this monster of a shell. Having been called "grapeshot in can" by Tsavonian artillery operators due to how absolutely destructive the high velocity tungsten cored and bronze jacketed buck n' ball was during the siege of Schonenberg (a Tsavonian coastal city, one of their major ports in fact). The field-gun model of the M1907, which bears a "swivel out" stock/rear-frame mechanism, allowing the barrel to swivel out for ease of reloading. That mechanism allow for a strategic importance to be put upon the M1908 50mm Breiðr-Sverð for Tsavonian and other "non-Ulfran" light gunnery crews manning defensive position due to the level of flesh tearing doom being brought upon the charging Naðrfirar hordes.

In comparison to it's application for other nations during the Deep Wars (Naðrfirar Crisis), it garnered immense popularity with Ulfranes Haer close combat teams and FIA Kommandosoldate units due to it's application as a breaching shell, and general deck-sweeper.
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Postby Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:12 pm

Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.

Where is the safety?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon May 13, 2013 2:12 pm

Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.


You've come a long way. A long, long way.
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Postby Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:13 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.


You've come a long way. A long, long way.

That much is true.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Vareiln » Mon May 13, 2013 2:19 pm

Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.

Awesome, certainly better than any pistol I can lineart.

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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:21 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.

Where is the safety?


There isn't one. If one wants to prevent the pistol from firing, one simply moves the hammer into the upwards position.

Single action means that the weapon will not be able to fire in that state.

Vareiln wrote:
Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.

Awesome, certainly better than any pistol I can lineart.


I said the same exact line about ten days ago.
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Postby Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:23 pm

Benomia wrote:There isn't one. If one wants to prevent the pistol from firing, one simply moves the hammer into the upwards position.

I just wanted you to say that. Since the lack of a push safety was your argument against my gun.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:26 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Benomia wrote:There isn't one. If one wants to prevent the pistol from firing, one simply moves the hammer into the upwards position.

I just wanted you to say that. Since the lack of a push safety was your argument against my gun.


Not really. My problem with your safety is that it wasn't shared with any other gun in history, which means that you'd actually have to tell someone how to do it, rather than not having to which is what my gun is. The previews service pistol (Rokam Mk.2 Mod 2) used the same system as the ZR-1, so no new training is needed.

And the fact that your gun was going to have some odd looking holsters.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:26 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Benomia wrote:(Image)
Latest, possibly last, version.


You've come a long way. A long, long way.


Let us not forget the first post I made in this topic...

*shudders*

Better yet, how about we all forget anyway.
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Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:29 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:No. API in a pistol is ridiculous.


PM63 says hai
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Postby Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:30 pm

Benomia wrote:Not really. My problem with your safety is that it wasn't shared with any other gun in history, which means that you'd actually have to tell someone how to do it, rather than not having to which is what my gun is. The previews service pistol (Rokam Mk.2 Mod 2) used the same system as the ZR-1, so no new training is needed.

And the fact that your gun was going to have some odd looking holsters.

It is shared with the K31 and my own strait-pull rifles (in principal of how it's used but not design). So anyone skilled with using strait-pull rifles would be familiar with it.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon May 13, 2013 2:34 pm

Benomia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:No. API in a pistol is ridiculous.


PM63 says hai


It's not API.
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Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:38 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Benomia wrote:Not really. My problem with your safety is that it wasn't shared with any other gun in history, which means that you'd actually have to tell someone how to do it, rather than not having to which is what my gun is. The previews service pistol (Rokam Mk.2 Mod 2) used the same system as the ZR-1, so no new training is needed.

And the fact that your gun was going to have some odd looking holsters.

It is shared with the K31 and my own strait-pull rifles (in principal of how it's used but not design). So anyone skilled with using strait-pull rifles would be familiar with it.


I said before that it would work fine for you, but not for me.
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Benomia wrote:
PM63 says hai


It's not API.


If you weren't referring to the openboltness of API, what did you mean?
also
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Postby Veyliss » Mon May 13, 2013 2:39 pm

I'm currently stuck for ideas as to my next fictional weapons/vehicles project.

Does anyone know of a guide matching the kinds of situations squads get into, why it happens to them, and what weapons those situations call for?

Also perhaps an introduction to the pros and cons of various self-loading receiver mechanisms, and how to decide on things like amount of locking lugs.

Also why do the terms "short recoil" and "long recoil" get used?
Surely the bolt should just go back far enough for the next round to fit into the chamber, no?
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 2:41 pm

Veyliss wrote:Also why do the terms "short recoil" and "long recoil" get used?
Surely the bolt should just go back far enough for the next round to fit into the chamber, no?


"Short" and "long" refer to the movement of the barrel, not bolt.
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  • On Serev Culture and Society [Coming Soon!]
  • Ongoing RPs: None ATM
Some info on the Serev Faction:
  • Quasi-Socialist Federal Council Republic
  • Official Language: Seravi
  • Demonym: Serev (Serev Sh'ari, Serev-made, Serev Hero)

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