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Ulfr-Reich
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon May 13, 2013 4:44 am

Benomia wrote:(Image)

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Hammer probably ought to be a little more exposed. As it stands, it looks like it'd be hard to get your thumb on top of and pull down. I could see missing it or sliding off when trying to cock it in a hurry.

Also, no magazine release? Or is it "on the other side"

Also, also, I don't see a slide catch? Is that "on the invisible side too?" Usually its on the same side as the ejection port.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon May 13, 2013 5:14 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:That reminds me. Have there ever been any MMW thread contests?

Despite the skill gaps I'm sure we could get a kick out of it. A friendly contest between comrades.

I don't recall the OICW challenge concluding.
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Can't help but think the carry handle would be better affixed to the rear sight trunnion around the gas tube mounting, FAL-style.



Where it is now is the point of balance on the RPK. I basically made a not-so-Romanian AES-10B:

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 13, 2013 5:43 am

I was thinking primarily from a 'strength of mounting' point of view. If the pivot wraps around the edge of the gas tube, as it connects to the fixed receiver, that is surely one of the strongest parts of the rifle, let alone the trunnion itself.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon May 13, 2013 5:47 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I was thinking primarily from a 'strength of mounting' point of view. If the pivot wraps around the edge of the gas tube, as it connects to the fixed receiver, that is surely one of the strongest parts of the rifle, let alone the trunnion itself.



http://s11.photobucket.com/user/ZEROTHO ... 4.jpg.html

Not sure if I'm following what you're saying, but where it's mounted now is perfectly suitable for a handle strength-wise. If it were to pivot over from the left-hand side like the FAL handle does, you'd likely run into issues with any optics mounted on the left-hand side of the receiver.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 13, 2013 5:49 am

No, you're not.
What that appears to be, is a small hinge welded onto the receiver.
Which would appear to be significantly less strong than were you to wrap the handle's mounting around the trunnion. Or frankly even mount it on a rail.
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Postby Anacasppia » Mon May 13, 2013 7:42 am

From ages back; finally bothered to do the trigger (the guard is iffy). Still missing miscellaneous details like fire selector; any C&C would be appreciated.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 13, 2013 7:43 am

Lengthen the trigger guard. There isn't much room for a finger there, especially gloved.
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 7:44 am

HOLY FUCK, this has got to be the most disgusting FAMAS clone I have ever seen, it is PMG in real-life; THE HORROR!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/06/hs-produkt-vhs-2-assault-rifle/
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Postby Nua Corda » Mon May 13, 2013 7:46 am

Ulfr-Reich wrote:HOLY FUCK, this has got to be the most disgusting FAMAS clone I have ever seen, it is PMG in real-life; THE HORROR!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/06/hs-produkt-vhs-2-assault-rifle/


The LoP is a bit silly, but otherwise it's not that bad.
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Mon May 13, 2013 7:51 am

Anacasppia wrote:From ages back; finally bothered to do the trigger (the guard is iffy). Still missing miscellaneous details like fire selector; any C&C would be appreciated.
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I think the bolt does not really has enough room to move. Otherwise good. What system?
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Mon May 13, 2013 7:52 am

Ulfr-Reich wrote:HOLY FUCK, this has got to be the most disgusting FAMAS clone I have ever seen, it is PMG in real-life; THE HORROR!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/06/hs-produkt-vhs-2-assault-rifle/

It is not delayed blowback, but uses a scar style tappet piston, probably better than the famas, but still fugly.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 13, 2013 7:55 am

Ulfr-Reich wrote:HOLY FUCK, this has got to be the most disgusting FAMAS clone I have ever seen, it is PMG in real-life; THE HORROR!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/06/hs-produkt-vhs-2-assault-rifle/

Oy, I like that.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon May 13, 2013 8:04 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Ulfr-Reich wrote:HOLY FUCK, this has got to be the most disgusting FAMAS clone I have ever seen, it is PMG in real-life; THE HORROR!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/06/hs-produkt-vhs-2-assault-rifle/

Oy, I like that.

Most of my agreement!

The stock looks kinda stupid, but other than that it's fine.
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For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 8:12 am

Well, bullpup G36, but still PMGreality. Is of great cringings.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon May 13, 2013 8:20 am

Eh. From the magazine well forward it's really not that bad.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

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For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 8:36 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Eh. From the magazine well forward it's really not that bad.



Not enough tree-flesh. Or 7.62 (.280 glory is acceptable as well).
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Postby Anacasppia » Mon May 13, 2013 8:36 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Ulfr-Reich wrote:HOLY FUCK, this has got to be the most disgusting FAMAS clone I have ever seen, it is PMG in real-life; THE HORROR!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/06/hs-produkt-vhs-2-assault-rifle/

Oy, I like that.


Me too; the top one in particular is very FUTUR.

United Republics of Aralon wrote:I think the bolt does not really has enough room to move. Otherwise good. What system?


Its really just a lineart of the MAC M-10 for practice purpose. IIRC M-10 is blowback operated, which would probably explain the compact frame. Anyway, will be touching up trigger guard and doing up a few more details like fire selector, and after that I will likely move on to a pistol. Kard maybe? Kard is boxy (read: easier) and I think Corda haz Kard fetish too.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 13, 2013 8:45 am

Ulfr-Reich wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Eh. From the magazine well forward it's really not that bad.



Not enough tree-flesh. Or 7.62 (.280 glory is acceptable as well).

Oh, well in that case I can now freely admit that the Doberman (of which I posted the automatic rifle variant last night) is now chambered in .280, not 7.62 NATO
It was chambered in 7.62 though.
And before that, it had a shortened, derimmed version of Tsarist knocking about.
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 8:52 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Ulfr-Reich wrote:

Not enough tree-flesh. Or 7.62 (.280 glory is acceptable as well).

Oh, well in that case I can now freely admit that the Doberman (of which I posted the automatic rifle variant last night) is now chambered in .280, not 7.62 NATO
It was chambered in 7.62 though.
And before that, it had a shortened, derimmed version of Tsarist knocking about.



You, I now respect you. Any chance of using 8.45x50mm Kort in a close combat weapon?
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Postby Registug » Mon May 13, 2013 8:57 am

Gun designs I have made: 0

Even then, that sounds batshit nutty, Ulfr.

btw your new nickname is "Ulfy"
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 13, 2013 9:04 am

Ulfr-Reich wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Oh, well in that case I can now freely admit that the Doberman (of which I posted the automatic rifle variant last night) is now chambered in .280, not 7.62 NATO
It was chambered in 7.62 though.
And before that, it had a shortened, derimmed version of Tsarist knocking about.



You, I now respect you. Any chance of using 8.45x50mm Kort in a close combat weapon?

It's longer overall than almost any battle rifle cartridge, so I'd guess no.
Shorten it to ~30-35mm cartridge and neck it down to 7-8mm and you could have an Ulfran-sized PDW cartridge.
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Mon May 13, 2013 9:06 am

Ulfr-Reich wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Oh, well in that case I can now freely admit that the Doberman (of which I posted the automatic rifle variant last night) is now chambered in .280, not 7.62 NATO
It was chambered in 7.62 though.
And before that, it had a shortened, derimmed version of Tsarist knocking about.



You, I now respect you. Any chance of using 8.45x50mm Kort in a close combat weapon?

.50 Beowulf? For ulfranest subgun?
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 9:21 am

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Ulfr-Reich wrote:

You, I now respect you. Any chance of using 8.45x50mm Kort in a close combat weapon?

.50 Beowulf? For ulfranest subgun?



The Ulfranes Haer's cartridge types always tend to have that "Horn of Africa-beast slaying hunter vibe", so, potentially something of the kind for a Lewis Gun clone for jeep mounting maybe. Or a survival carbine for pilots.
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 9:26 am

Actually, I was thinking of a .50 Beowulf type cartridge for an Ulfran military revolver.
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 9:30 am

Registug wrote:Gun designs I have made: 0

Even then, that sounds batshit nutty, Ulfr.

btw your new nickname is "Ulfy"



Just roll with "Ulfr". IRL, just to make you say "fuckin' hell". My last name is "Ulfrsson", meaning Wolf Son in Ellri Norsk. Inspiration for my nation much?
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