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by Rich and Corporations » Mon May 13, 2013 12:36 pm
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by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 12:37 pm
Rich and Corporations wrote:I think the best SMG round would be the 7.62x25 necked down to 7mm and case lengthened by 3mm, loaded with more modern propellants.
Unless you want commonality with your SMGs and your pistols.
Apparently it is capable of defeating lvl II armor vests at close range with only FMJ. With my changes, it would be able to defeat lvl II armor vests at longer rnages with AP ammo. Making your PDWs into more assault rifle weapons.
7mm has been statistically proven to have ideal terminal performance.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by Rich and Corporations » Mon May 13, 2013 12:39 pm
Benomia wrote:Rich and Corporations wrote:I think the best SMG round would be the 7.62x25 necked down to 7mm and case lengthened by 3mm, loaded with more modern propellants.
Unless you want commonality with your SMGs and your pistols.
Apparently it is capable of defeating lvl II armor vests at close range with only FMJ. With my changes, it would be able to defeat lvl II armor vests at longer rnages with AP ammo. Making your PDWs into more assault rifle weapons.
7mm has been statistically proven to have ideal terminal performance.
7.62x25 can already defeat up to Level III vests, although it's possible that that was an AP round.
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by Ulfr-Reich » Mon May 13, 2013 12:40 pm
by Kalumba » Mon May 13, 2013 12:40 pm
Shambulio Bunduki-72
SH-72
- Type: Assault rifle
- Place of Origin: Kalumba
Service History
- In Service: 1973 - Present
- Used By: Kalumban Army, Kalumban Navy, Guard Force, Kalumban Constabulary
- Wars: Bechuaneland Emergency
Production History
- Designed:1972
- Designer: Percival Gifford
- Manufactured by: Kalumban National Armoury
- Produced: 1973 - Present
- Number Built: ~450,000
- Variants:
- SH-72
- SH-72 Carbine
Specifications
- Weight: 8.2 lb (4.0 kg) (empty)
- Length: 39.4 in (1000 mm)
- Barrel Length: 18.1 in (460 mm)
- Cartridge(s):
- .280 British
- Action: Gas Operated, Rotating Bolt
- Rate of Fire: 600 rounds/min
- Feed System: 10 or 30-round detachable box magazine
- Sights: Iron
Background
In the early 1960's the minority goverment of Kalumba was facing an increasingly violent and well armed insurgency in the Bechuaneland provice and required a new service rifle to replace the FN FAL, however international sanctions prevented access to the newer designs emerging around the world and forced the Kalumbans to begin work on their own indigenous weapon. Early prototypes resembled the FAL and continued the battle rifle concept. These prototypes were produced on a small scale and issued to frontline units, but there were numerous complaints mainly regarding the length and weight of the weapons as well as there inability to provide accurate automatic fire.
By the late 1960's the insurgents were causing increased casualties amongst the security forces and the need for an effective new weapon became increasingly urgent. The project was placed at the desk of Percival Gifford, an experienced aero-engineer who had recently been placed in charge of all arms manafacture. He decided the new weapon would fire the .280 British cartridge and must be capable of accurate automatic fire while being less than 1100mms in length.
By 1972 the new weapon was ready for mass production and was introduced as the KAR-72 (Kalumban Automatic Rifle-72). By the end of the year, however, a referendum established majority rule and the KAR-72 was in danger of being replaced by the AKM. Luckily the new government decided that indigenous production was better for the nation and the KAR-72 was re-introduced as the Shambulio Banduki-72 (Assault Rifle-72 in Uhali). The SH-72 continues in service to this day and a carbine version has been produced for use by special forces and police.
Construction and Design
The SH-72's reciever is based off that of the AKM and, along with the barrel and gas system, is constructed of milled steel and the stock is foldable and built of tubular steel. The weapons furniture was originally wood but has since been upgraded to bakelite, although recent versions are moving towards polymer furniture. The weapon is thus heavy and carries a high manafacturing cost, but is very reliable and possesses decent accuracy and a respectable effective range of 300-550 yards (the latter with bipod extended).
Other than the change of cartidge and addition of a bipod and other external features the SH-72 is identical internally to the AKM, and the many of the parts are interchangeable, a useful feature when fighting insurgents using the AKM. The iron sights are adjustable from 100-750 yards and contain tritium betalights to allow for night-fighting.
The SH-72 contains an integral bipod to allow for accurate and sustained automatic fire, as well as to improve accuracy at increased ranges. Unusually the SH-72 does not have a bayonet lug, altough many soldiers have adapted the FAL spike bayonet to fit the rifle.
Variants
The SH-72 comes in two variants:
- SH-72 The standard issue rifle, often supplied without the bipod
- SH-72c a carbine variant issued to police and special forces
by Nua Corda » Mon May 13, 2013 12:41 pm
Rich and Corporations wrote:I think the best SMG round would be the 7.62x25 necked down to 7mm and case lengthened by 3mm, loaded with more modern propellants.
Unless you want commonality with your SMGs and your pistols.
Apparently it is capable of defeating lvl II armor vests at close range with only FMJ. With my changes, it would be able to defeat lvl II armor vests at longer rnages with AP ammo. Making your PDWs into more assault rifle weapons.
7mm has been statistically proven to have ideal terminal performance.
by San-Silvacian » Mon May 13, 2013 12:43 pm
by Premislyd » Mon May 13, 2013 12:44 pm
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by Nua Corda » Mon May 13, 2013 12:56 pm
San-Silvacian wrote:7.62x45mm better to use for AK-85 than 9x45mm silliness. I might go back to 5.45x39mm, maybe 5.45x45, but I'm in Samozland there. And thats just bullpups and plastic.
by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 12:59 pm
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by Nua Corda » Mon May 13, 2013 1:00 pm
Benomia wrote:My notanm1911 using API blowback for best machining pistolololol, yes/yes?
by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:01 pm
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by San-Silvacian » Mon May 13, 2013 1:04 pm
by Boer Republics (Ancient) » Mon May 13, 2013 1:09 pm
by Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 13, 2013 1:10 pm
Kalumba wrote:
Shambulio Bunduki-72
(Image)SH-72
- Type: Assault rifle
- Place of Origin: Kalumba
Service History
- In Service: 1973 - Present
- Used By: Kalumban Army, Kalumban Navy, Guard Force, Kalumban Constabulary
- Wars: Bechuaneland Emergency
Production History
- Designed:1972
- Designer: Percival Gifford
- Manufactured by: Kalumban National Armoury
- Produced: 1973 - Present
- Number Built: ~450,000
- Variants:
- SH-72
- SH-72 Carbine
Specifications
- Weight: 8.2 lb (4.0 kg) (empty)
- Length: 39.4 in (1000 mm)
- Barrel Length: 18.1 in (460 mm)
- Cartridge(s):
- .280 British
- Action: Gas Operated, Rotating Bolt
- Rate of Fire: 600 rounds/min
- Feed System: 10 or 30-round detachable box magazine
- Sights: Iron
Background
In the early 1960's the minority goverment of Kalumba was facing an increasingly violent and well armed insurgency in the Bechuaneland provice and required a new service rifle to replace the FN FAL, however international sanctions prevented access to the newer designs emerging around the world and forced the Kalumbans to begin work on their own indigenous weapon. Early prototypes resembled the FAL and continued the battle rifle concept. These prototypes were produced on a small scale and issued to frontline units, but there were numerous complaints mainly regarding the length and weight of the weapons as well as there inability to provide accurate automatic fire.
By the late 1960's the insurgents were causing increased casualties amongst the security forces and the need for an effective new weapon became increasingly urgent. The project was placed at the desk of Percival Gifford, an experienced aero-engineer who had recently been placed in charge of all arms manafacture. He decided the new weapon would fire the .280 British cartridge and must be capable of accurate automatic fire while being less than 1100mms in length.
By 1972 the new weapon was ready for mass production and was introduced as the KAR-72 (Kalumban Automatic Rifle-72). By the end of the year, however, a referendum established majority rule and the KAR-72 was in danger of being replaced by the AKM. Luckily the new government decided that indigenous production was better for the nation and the KAR-72 was re-introduced as the Shambulio Banduki-72 (Assault Rifle-72 in Uhali). The SH-72 continues in service to this day and a carbine version has been produced for use by special forces and police.
Construction and Design
The SH-72's reciever is based off that of the AKM and, along with the barrel and gas system, is constructed of milled steel and the stock is foldable and built of tubular steel. The weapons furniture was originally wood but has since been upgraded to bakelite, although recent versions are moving towards polymer furniture. The weapon is thus heavy and carries a high manafacturing cost, but is very reliable and possesses decent accuracy and a respectable effective range of 300-550 yards (the latter with bipod extended).
Other than the change of cartidge and addition of a bipod and other external features the SH-72 is identical internally to the AKM, and the many of the parts are interchangeable, a useful feature when fighting insurgents using the AKM. The iron sights are adjustable from 100-750 yards and contain tritium betalights to allow for night-fighting.
The SH-72 contains an integral bipod to allow for accurate and sustained automatic fire, as well as to improve accuracy at increased ranges. Unusually the SH-72 does not have a bayonet lug, altough many soldiers have adapted the FAL spike bayonet to fit the rifle.
Variants
The SH-72 comes in two variants:
- SH-72 The standard issue rifle, often supplied without the bipod
- SH-72c a carbine variant issued to police and special forces
This BBcode format courtesy of Nua Corda
So can this pack .280 British or should I put it in a boring common calibre?
by Nua Corda » Mon May 13, 2013 1:11 pm
by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:11 pm
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:12 pm
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:15 pm
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by San-Silvacian » Mon May 13, 2013 1:16 pm
Nua Corda wrote:Benomia wrote:
That's why it's not an M1911. For some reason, my pistol looks just like one, even though it has literally nothing in common beyond the general shape of the grip furniture.
The only blowback pistol I know of is the hi-point, which is hilariously bulky as a result.
Because 20% improvement in ballistic performance < thirdy-caliburr bullertz
by Purpelia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:17 pm
by Benomia » Mon May 13, 2013 1:20 pm
Purpelia wrote:@beno
My only objection is that the length of the slide and barrel just looks way too short and the handle looks slightly too long. It just looks to me like a decent gun built for a guy with 6 fingers and with a 80mm or so barrel. And the thing is I know that the barrel is actually NOT too short. It's just the handle throwing it out of proportion. Make it a bit shorter if you ask me.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
by Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 13, 2013 1:21 pm
by Black Hand » Mon May 13, 2013 1:23 pm
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Slide needs to be a bit bigger, and the grip could stand to be a bit more slanted. That or you'll need to make the slide and part of the frame hang off the back.
Puzikas wrote:You clearly don't know about the baby bald eagle built into each one.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Why is there a "joke option" included in the poll when "yes" is already there?
Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?
Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?
San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.
Bezombia wrote: "glorious discharge"
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