Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[Spreewerke]

I have gotten AK magazines that have gone through various conflicts in Serbia that run perfectly fine. They have 0% of their original finish left, have floor plates bent to where they barely contact the magazine body itself, have dents in the sides of them, and some battlefield-mods applied with a welding torch of some kind.

No problems with 'em.

In which case the defective ones would have been weeded out by the military that used them before they hit the market.

There are many unissued magazines you can purchase for the AK. They are like-new, unused surplus. That's what 3/4 of my magazines are. That's what a large portion of US-used AK magazines are. They never saw any military use, therefore, couldn't be "weeded out."


Mag Porn:

[Nua Corda]

There are many unissued magazines you can purchase for the AK. They are like-new, unused surplus. That's what 3/4 of my magazines are. That's what a large portion of US-used AK magazines are. They never saw any military use, therefore, couldn't be "weeded out."

Probably got weeded out in testing, or when received by the quartermaster. Defects in stamped steel are somewhat easier to detect than defects in polymer, but no less common.

[Imperial isa]

Posts dont matter in the least, I started posing here with, what, 87 posts? Its about what you know.

I was more referring to how one would become a moderator within thirty posts.

you see where it say ?

Founded: Antiquity

[Nua Corda]

I was more referring to how one would become a moderator within thirty posts.

you see where it say ?

Founded: Antiquity

I imagine there are a lot of Jolt forum posts that we can't see.

[Transnapastain]

you see where it say ?

I imagine there are a lot of Jolt forum posts that we can't see.

This would be correct.

[Spreewerke]

There are many unissued magazines you can purchase for the AK. They are like-new, unused surplus. That's what 3/4 of my magazines are. That's what a large portion of US-used AK magazines are. They never saw any military use, therefore, couldn't be "weeded out."

Probably got weeded out in testing, or when received by the quartermaster. Defects in stamped steel are somewhat easier to detect than defects in polymer, but no less common.

Doesn't explain the Chinese magazines being flawless that were pumped out purely for the US commercial market in the '80s and '90s.

[Puzikas]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

[Benomia]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

Lock on or free fire?

[Imperial isa]

I imagine there are a lot of Jolt forum posts that we can't see.

This would be correct.

If i recall right was in the top part of the list of top posters count list

[Transnapastain]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

Lock on or free fire?

Free fire, I believe.

[Transnapastain]

This would be correct.

If i recall right was in the top part of the list of top posters count list

Oh God, thats right, you're from Way Back When, too aren't you? I forget these things, being so old and all

[Spirit of Hope]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

As a side note does this mean you won't have developed RPG's? Like the RPG-7? Because that is totally what my army fields.

[Puzikas]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

Lock on or free fire?

Free fire

[Aqizithiuda]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

So there's a small shaped charge component as well, I assume?

[Nua Corda]

Probably got weeded out in testing, or when received by the quartermaster. Defects in stamped steel are somewhat easier to detect than defects in polymer, but no less common.

Doesn't explain the Chinese magazines being flawless that were pumped out purely for the US commercial market in the '80s and '90s.

I bet you there are manufacturing defects there too, you just haven't experienced them.

Neither machine nor man is infallible; everything has examples of fuckups or mistakes. But, for the record:

Defects in stamped steel are somewhat easier to detect than defects in polymer, but no less common.

[Puzikas]

Me and trans will be using this weapon, figured I would submit this for everyone to condemn/praise.

BPVO "Ворчание-2"
Large Area Explosive weapon "Vorchat-2" (grumble)
Length:
785mm passive
880mm ready
Weight: 3.85kg
Warhead: X1 SOLBRYV-23F (solnryv=Sun Burst) Thermobaric explosive with 2.4kg filling
Effective range: 375 meters
Caliber: 74mm
Muzzle velocity: 162m/s
Self detonation after 500m

The BVPO is a tube launched, single shot disposable rocket launcher firing a 74mm fin stabilized, solid state fuel rocket. It can be prepared to fire by a trained operator in approximately 6 seconds. Relying on Thermobaric munitions, the rockets explosive yield is considerably more than that of traditional disposable launchers of similar size. Lethal area against infantry in the open is 35 meters, and in areas with fragmentation potential the area can be as high as 120 meters. It is able to destroy soft skinned vehicles (Destruction of 100mm RHA after ERA effects) as well as enemy positions such as bunkers, caves, or enemy's behind berms.

The danger area of the back blast is 10 meters. Upon firing, a two stage motor ignites and accelerates the rocket to 97 m/s. After flying 10 meters from deployment of fins, a second stage rocket activates, pushing the rocket to 162 m/s.

So there's a small shaped charge component as well, I assume?

Point detonating

[Aqizithiuda]

So there's a small shaped charge component as well, I assume?

Point detonating

So, yes?

[Puzikas]

Point detonating

So, yes?

yes

[Aqizithiuda]

So, yes?

yes

*issues to infantry at fireteam level*

[Transnapastain]

yes

*issues to infantry at fireteam level*

*high fives*

[Nua Corda]

I'm actually considering keeping the Lancet (or a modernized version thereof) in service with frag or HE/DP warheads as an assault weapon. Troops would keep a pile of them in the Loggerhead, and use them as an assault weapon. They're light, simple and cheap, so they wouldn't be much of a burden. The Silver Arrow would still be in use (once I finish tweaking it), but used less for assaulting positions and more for pure anti-armor duty.

[3 State Alliance]

Lets try this again, last little venture I had into this forum was picked off very fast due to some problems that where enhanced by my poorly thought out defense, now take two.

I'll start with the soldier - arguably the ultimate weapon.
In the TSA soldiers are organized into 30 man squads with 3 sergeants (one for every ten men)

What would you suggest for weights?
The average Trooper will carry:
1X Tiger BR (revised) 18.5lbs
3X 16 Round Magazines + one in rifle 2lbs each - 8lbs total
1X bayonet ???
1X canteen - 3lbs
1X Rations pack (powdered) - 2 days worth - 5lbs
1X sleeping bag - 5lbs (Summer)
1X Hygiene Kit - soap, razor, etc - 2lbs
uniform + boots - 5lbs
total:

Each sergeant carries:
1X .45 Executioner pistol - 8lbs
5X 15 round magazines - 0.5lbs each - 6lbs
1X radio - 11lbs
2X hand grenades - 3lbs each - 6lbs
10X flares - 2lbs
1X canteen - 3lbs
1X Rations pack (powdered) - 2 days worth - 5lbs
1X sleeping bag - 5lbs (Summer)
1X Hygiene Kit - soap, razor, etc - 2lbs
uniform + boots - 5lbs
total: 53lbs

The Tiger .330 BR is designed to suit the wants of a large army and give them the range to counter any threats before they can get close (tanks pose a problem). It is a weapon for wold domination and possesses a massive recoil and weight, making it one of the worst weapons in history (next to the AK47)

The .45 Executioner is an internally silenced select fire pistol that has more in common with an SMG, so much to that very few users utilize a holster and instead rely on a sling. Like the Tiger it is cheap and designed for world domination.

There is no issued MG but some officers are issued an M12 automatic shotgun that is one of the best weapons in its class - until it jams. some exceptional soldiers receive telescopic sights but they are in a minority.

[Nua Corda]

The Tiger .330 BR is designed to suit the wants of a large army and give them the range to counter any threats before they can get close (tanks pose a problem). It is a weapon for wold domination and possesses a massive recoil and weight, making it one of the worst weapons in history (next to the AK47)

The .45 Executioner is an internally silenced select fire pistol that has more in common with an SMG, so much to that very few users utilize a holster and instead rely on a sling. Like the Tiger it is cheap and designed for world domination.

There is no issued MG but some officers are issued an M12 automatic shotgun that is one of the best weapons in its class - until it jams. some exceptional soldiers receive telescopic sights but they are in a minority.

Scrap it. Redesign it or pick something sensible from IRL or NS.

The MRS-67, for example, will fit your intended role much better *winks, nudges*



Scrap this too. Also,

>integrally supressed
>cheap
>lol

No MGs? Automatic shotguns? Are your military commanders brain-dead or something? MGs are necessary, at company level at the VERY LEAST. Ideally, a GPMG should be platoon level and an LMG or LSW should be at squad or section level. Automatic shotguns are a niche weapon at best. And scopes on shotguns?

[Idaho Conservatives]

making it one of the worst weapons in history (next to the AK47)

[Aqizithiuda]

I'm actually considering keeping the Lancet (or a modernized version thereof) in service with frag or HE/DP warheads as an assault weapon. Troops would keep a pile of them in the Loggerhead, and use them as an assault weapon. They're light, simple and cheap, so they wouldn't be much of a burden. The Silver Arrow would still be in use (once I finish tweaking it), but used less for assaulting positions and more for pure anti-armor duty.

I fully intend to keep the Silver Arrow until the next generation of anti-tank missiles, but the Lancet, unfortunately, isn't quite up to the same standards as the Vorchat-2 .