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Postby Yoshi-Land » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:38 pm

The M1 carbine is the standard weapon of the normal Yoshi infantry.

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And the FN SCAR in service with the elite Human mercenaries.

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Postby New Thebian Legacy » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:12 pm

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TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:20 pm

New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)

1. ROF (rate of fire) is rather low, most rifles have it between 700 and 850 rpm.
2. I doubt you will be able to hit anything more than 50 meters in front of you on full auto.
3. Semi-automatic range could at least be up to 600m
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:21 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)

1. ROF (rate of fire) is rather low, most rifles have it between 700 and 850 rpm.
2. I doubt you will be able to hit anything more than 50 meters in front of you on full auto.
3. Semi-automatic range could at least be up to 600m


I think you're confusing range with how far it's accurate at. On full auto, your bullet will still travel that far.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:35 pm

Altamirus wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:WHAT?! :shock:

YOU LOOK AT HIS, BUT NOT AT MINE?! Or did you just miss it...
Dimoniquid wrote:Something similar to Solyhniya's

Sučasnyj Avtomat-15
Сучасний Автомат-15
Advanced Automatic Rifle-15


... I can speak Russian too, you know!

Anyway, I took the main base (the receiver), and worked on the stock and barrel afterwards, so it's kinda... well, just look.

Advanced Automatic Rifle Variant - 25

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Statistics
Caliber: 7.62x39mm
Action: Gas operated.
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds for a box magazine, twenty rounds for a designated marksman box magazine, and one hundred rounds for a cylindrical magazine.
Length: 855mm
Barrel length: 505mm
Weight: 3.9 kilograms.
Rate of fire: 660 Rounds per minute.
Maximum range: 500 meters.


Calm down, I missed it. Anyway, you have rails showing on the bottom of the receiver and I don't think the sights line up, but other than that it looks pretty good. Also, think I can snag the code from you?

Why is he using such a outdated, stupid bullet size? The 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 have been proven to surpass the 7.62X39 bullet and cartridge.


Because he wants to, most likely.
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Postby Solyhniya » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:36 pm

Indeos wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:WHAT?! :shock:

YOU LOOK AT HIS, BUT NOT AT MINE?! Or did you just miss it...
Dimoniquid wrote:Something similar to Solyhniya's

Sučasnyj Avtomat-15
Сучасний Автомат-15
Advanced Automatic Rifle-15


... I can speak Russian too, you know!

Anyway, I took the main base (the receiver), and worked on the stock and barrel afterwards, so it's kinda... well, just look.

Advanced Automatic Rifle Variant - 25

Image

Statistics
Caliber: 7.62x39mm
Action: Gas operated.
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds for a box magazine, twenty rounds for a designated marksman box magazine, and one hundred rounds for a cylindrical magazine.
Length: 855mm
Barrel length: 505mm
Weight: 3.9 kilograms.
Rate of fire: 660 Rounds per minute.
Maximum range: 500 meters.


Calm down, I missed it. Anyway, you have rails showing on the bottom of the receiver and I don't think the sights line up, but other than that it looks pretty good. Also, think I can snag the code from you?

Why is he using such a outdated, stupid bullet size? The 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 have been proven to surpass the 7.62X39 bullet and cartridge.


Because he wants to, most likely.


Few intermediate rounds can match the material destructiveness of the 7.92x39. For jungle warfare, or generally obstructed combat, I wouldn't want any other round.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:37 pm

Solyhniya wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:WHAT?! :shock:

YOU LOOK AT HIS, BUT NOT AT MINE?! Or did you just miss it...
Dimoniquid wrote:Something similar to Solyhniya's

Sučasnyj Avtomat-15
Сучасний Автомат-15
Advanced Automatic Rifle-15


... I can speak Russian too, you know!

Anyway, I took the main base (the receiver), and worked on the stock and barrel afterwards, so it's kinda... well, just look.

Advanced Automatic Rifle Variant - 25

Image

Statistics
Caliber: 7.62x39mm
Action: Gas operated.
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds for a box magazine, twenty rounds for a designated marksman box magazine, and one hundred rounds for a cylindrical magazine.
Length: 855mm
Barrel length: 505mm
Weight: 3.9 kilograms.
Rate of fire: 660 Rounds per minute.
Maximum range: 500 meters.


Calm down, I missed it. Anyway, you have rails showing on the bottom of the receiver and I don't think the sights line up, but other than that it looks pretty good. Also, think I can snag the code from you?

Why is he using such a outdated, stupid bullet size? The 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 have been proven to surpass the 7.62X39 bullet and cartridge.


Because he wants to, most likely.


Few intermediate rounds can match the material destructiveness of the 7.92x39. For jungle warfare, or generally obstructed combat, I wouldn't want any other round.


.90(I think) Juggernaut. 'Nuff said.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:40 pm

Indeos wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)

1. ROF (rate of fire) is rather low, most rifles have it between 700 and 850 rpm.
2. I doubt you will be able to hit anything more than 50 meters in front of you on full auto.
3. Semi-automatic range could at least be up to 600m


I think you're confusing range with how far it's accurate at. On full auto, your bullet will still travel that far.

If you can't hit the broadside of a barn with it it isn't really effective.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:44 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Indeos wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)

1. ROF (rate of fire) is rather low, most rifles have it between 700 and 850 rpm.
2. I doubt you will be able to hit anything more than 50 meters in front of you on full auto.
3. Semi-automatic range could at least be up to 600m


I think you're confusing range with how far it's accurate at. On full auto, your bullet will still travel that far.

If you can't hit the broadside of a barn with it it isn't really effective.


True, but you've corrected peoples ranges a lot, and I don't agree with it.
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Postby Techno-Soviet » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:06 pm

Solyhniya wrote:Few intermediate rounds can match the material destructiveness of the 7.92x39. For jungle warfare, or generally obstructed combat, I wouldn't want any other round.


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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:11 pm

Indeos wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Indeos wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)

1. ROF (rate of fire) is rather low, most rifles have it between 700 and 850 rpm.
2. I doubt you will be able to hit anything more than 50 meters in front of you on full auto.
3. Semi-automatic range could at least be up to 600m


I think you're confusing range with how far it's accurate at. On full auto, your bullet will still travel that far.

If you can't hit the broadside of a barn with it it isn't really effective.


True, but you've corrected peoples ranges a lot, and I don't agree with it.

If he didn't mean accurate range, than why are the ranges different for full and semi-auto. Unless he is using a different bullet, a different cartridge, or a different barrel, they should both have the same effective range, regardless of whether it is on full auto, semi auto, two, three, or five round burst.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:15 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Indeos wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Indeos wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
Glad to hear any other criticisms.:)

1. ROF (rate of fire) is rather low, most rifles have it between 700 and 850 rpm.
2. I doubt you will be able to hit anything more than 50 meters in front of you on full auto.
3. Semi-automatic range could at least be up to 600m


I think you're confusing range with how far it's accurate at. On full auto, your bullet will still travel that far.

If you can't hit the broadside of a barn with it it isn't really effective.


True, but you've corrected peoples ranges a lot, and I don't agree with it.

If he didn't mean accurate range, than why are the ranges different for full and semi-auto. Unless he is using a different bullet, a different cartridge, or a different barrel, they should both have the same effective range, regardless of whether it is on full auto, semi auto, two, three, or five round burst.


Yeah, I think that's just an error on his part. Anyway, I'm not going to argue about it.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:33 pm

I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:34 pm

The stock on the Machine Pistol's done. There's a folding stock, a solid stock and a bonus barrel extension. All it needs now are some stats and a name.
Any thoughts?
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:36 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


Which one do my guns actually fall in? I'm pretty sure it's 4, but I kinda drift towards 3 too...
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Postby Bafuria » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:49 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


My Army uses No. 3's (my BARS bullpup :blush: )
And My Militia uses No. 4's (a rifle similar to the L1A1 SLR)
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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:51 pm

Wolohanistan wrote:The stock on the Machine Pistol's done. There's a folding stock and a solid stock and a bonus barrel extension. All it needs now are some stats and a name.
Any thoughts?
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Aw, no internally suppressed version?
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:53 pm

Bafuria wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


My Army uses No. 3's (my BARS bullpup :blush: )
And My Militia uses No. 4's (a rifle similar to the L1A1 SLR)

Yours would probably be in group 4.
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:54 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Bafuria wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


My Army uses No. 3's (my BARS bullpup :blush: )
And My Militia uses No. 4's (a rifle similar to the L1A1 SLR)

Yours would probably be in group 4.

TASE, whats your opinion on where mine is? I want some input on my weapons
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Postby Bafuria » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:05 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Bafuria wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


My Army uses No. 3's (my BARS bullpup :blush: )
And My Militia uses No. 4's (a rifle similar to the L1A1 SLR)

Yours would probably be in group 4.


On a second thought, I have to agree. My nation IS pretty boring :p

I suppose the R2 is in category 3.
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Postby Byelorussian SSR » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:06 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Yours would probably be in group 4.


What about me? I don't post a whole lot though so it may be harder to figure me out. I'd say I'm between 3-4, leaning towards 3.

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Postby Indeos » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:09 pm

Bafuria wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Bafuria wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


My Army uses No. 3's (my BARS bullpup :blush: )
And My Militia uses No. 4's (a rifle similar to the L1A1 SLR)

Yours would probably be in group 4.


On a second thought, I have to agree. My nation IS pretty boring :p

I suppose the R2 is in category 3.


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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:42 pm

Indeos wrote:The R2 is category 3 personified.

Byelorussian SSR wrote:Yep, pretty much group 3 weapons are like the R2 or LY20 HILAR (High Lethality Assault Rifle), weapons that don't exist in the real world because real life nations can't afford to give each soldier a rifle the cost of a new car or tv.
What about me? I don't post a whole lot though so it may be harder to figure me out. I'd say I'm between 3-4, leaning towards 3.

I have to say group 4
Itailian Maifias wrote:TASE, whats your opinion on where mine is? I want some input on my weapons

Either group 3 or 4. They are expensive, and they have BARS, but they aren't really futuristic looks or in usage. I really think you should either do something to show why the weapons in your storefront are so expensive, or greatly decrease the prices.
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:48 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Indeos wrote:The R2 is category 3 personified.

Byelorussian SSR wrote:Yep, pretty much group 3 weapons are like the R2 or LY20 HILAR (High Lethality Assault Rifle), weapons that don't exist in the real world because real life nations can't afford to give each soldier a rifle the cost of a new car or tv.
What about me? I don't post a whole lot though so it may be harder to figure me out. I'd say I'm between 3-4, leaning towards 3.

I have to say group 4
Itailian Maifias wrote:TASE, whats your opinion on where mine is? I want some input on my weapons

Either group 3 or 4. They are expensive, and they have BARS, but they aren't really futuristic looks or in usage. I really think you should either do something to show why the weapons in your storefront are so expensive, or greatly decrease the prices.

O, I am decreasing the price with the renovations
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