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Postby Itailian Maifias » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:06 am

Dimoniquid wrote:What about my new one?

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:07 am

Wolohanistan wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Wolohanistan wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Added some examples to the grouping of weapons.

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.
AK-47 (USSR)
STG 44 (Nazi Germany)

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.
ISR-MkIV (New Nicksyllvania)
BR-95 (Anglo-Saxon Empire)
FN Rougecote FGR (Questers)

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.
R2 (Vault 10)
LY20 HILAR (Lyras)

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.
AY-144 (Yanitaria)
G-36 (Germany)


I'm definitely in group 2. As the WPLA is mainly a defensive army Battle rifles are perfect. Saying that, I need to do a V.2 of my battle rifle, it looks a bit shabby.
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I would probably classify yours as group 1, since you use a 7.62x39mm round, or more likely, group 4. Your rifle may be long, but it isn't LOL HUGE. LOL HUGE weapons fire rounds that offer around 4,000J muzzle energy, a gun that can drop a charging rhino, or tear a man in half with one hit.


Wait, that's the old version. Remember you helped me decide on 7.92x57mm Mauser rounds for this?

Oh yeah. I thought it was absurdley long and heavy, but yes your rifle would be considered a group 2 rifle.
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Postby Deltania X » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:16 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Wolohanistan wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Added some examples to the grouping of weapons.

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.
AK-47 (USSR)
STG 44 (Nazi Germany)

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.
ISR-MkIV (New Nicksyllvania)
BR-95 (Anglo-Saxon Empire)
FN Rougecote FGR (Questers)

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.
R2 (Vault 10)
LY20 HILAR (Lyras)

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.
AY-144 (Yanitaria)
G-36 (Germany)


I'm definitely in group 2. As the WPLA is mainly a defensive army Battle rifles are perfect. Saying that, I need to do a V.2 of my battle rifle, it looks a bit shabby.
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I would probably classify yours as group 1, since you use a 7.62x39mm round, or more likely, group 4. Your rifle may be long, but it isn't LOL HUGE. LOL HUGE weapons fire rounds that offer around 4,000J muzzle energy, a gun that can drop a charging rhino, or tear a man in half with one hit.


In wich groups are my weapons

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Postby Reformed Britannia » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:22 am

Deltania X wrote:
In wich groups are my weapons

What are your weapons in the first place?

I'd say mine are probably category #4, although I export the Marks-Enfield Mk.IV for 2,600 NSD so it would go over the 2,500 limit...
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:25 am

Deltania X wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Wolohanistan wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Added some examples to the grouping of weapons.

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.
AK-47 (USSR)
STG 44 (Nazi Germany)

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.
ISR-MkIV (New Nicksyllvania)
BR-95 (Anglo-Saxon Empire)
FN Rougecote FGR (Questers)

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.
R2 (Vault 10)
LY20 HILAR (Lyras)

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.
AY-144 (Yanitaria)
G-36 (Germany)


I'm definitely in group 2. As the WPLA is mainly a defensive army Battle rifles are perfect. Saying that, I need to do a V.2 of my battle rifle, it looks a bit shabby.
Image

I would probably classify yours as group 1, since you use a 7.62x39mm round, or more likely, group 4. Your rifle may be long, but it isn't LOL HUGE. LOL HUGE weapons fire rounds that offer around 4,000J muzzle energy, a gun that can drop a charging rhino, or tear a man in half with one hit.


In wich groups are my weapons

Can you repost them? I don't really remember any weapons from more than a page back that aren't either popular, or extreme. Anyway 90% of the weapons here would be in group 4. I should also add a group 5, fail weapons, guns that are just plain terrible, and either can't exist or shouldn't exist, like the Chauchat, or 80% of UAWC's weapons.
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Postby Eevilsheevil » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:27 am

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Postby Thurask » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:34 am

My standard infantry weapon is Group 4 (AK-107), and anything I try to cook up in PMG usually ends up being a no-frills rifle.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:01 pm

Eh...My M-14 can be absurdly heavy all it wants to be. 30.06 to the face > NATO rounds
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Postby Bafuria » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:22 pm

Amerikians wrote:Eh...My M-14 can be absurdly heavy all it wants to be. 30.06 to the face > NATO rounds


I'm pretty sure that any bullet to the face has excellent stopping power.
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Postby Senestrum » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:40 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I think I have found out all of the main infantry weapons ns nations use. They can be divided into 4 categories

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.


This is basically you ASE, especially the underlined bit. I don't think anyone else is hardcore enough to give every man an R2!

I'm basically a hash-up between 2, 3 and 4. My GV-10 makes the FGR look like an FNC, and it uses lolhueg weight-shifting mechanism to allow you to use burst fire. My standard assault rifle, the AV-10 (currently being remade, I'll ask you what you think about the new version soon) uses BARS, but I think edges more to the 4 side.

I only give my Imperial Army R2s (my National Militia, which act as my reserves, or guys I want to deploy when I feel the urge to zerg rush are armed with my oversized battle rifle). Granted it is still is a massive waste of money, not to mention that my Imperial Army is also fully mechanized, their MBT is the MCA-7E,they all get level IV body armour night vision, and lots of other fancy gizmos. A few other nations use the R2 as their service rifle, but yes my military in general likes to waste money, plus how could I resist, the R2 is so tantalizing, and once you buy a $100,000 rifle, you might as well go all the way any buy fancy body armour and everything else.

I always lol when I see nations use the MCA-7 as their MBT, because of how specialized it is for the Sumerian conditions. You're going to see trouble with it outside of flat or rolling plains.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:57 pm

Bafuria wrote:
Amerikians wrote:Eh...My M-14 can be absurdly heavy all it wants to be. 30.06 to the face > NATO rounds


I'm pretty sure that any bullet to the face has excellent stopping power.

Not a round from a 2mm Kolibri.
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Altamirus wrote:Who makes the CMAR because I want to buy and modify it.


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Postby Krakadarek » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:17 pm

Number 1 in krakadarek is:
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And number 2:
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And 3:Our home made gun the upgraded sterling.
For urban combat.
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The reaper type xyd4.
Round:9x19mm Parabellum
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Acurate range:150 meters.(more powerfull powder grains)
Pros:cheap,devastating stopping power,Good rate of fire,easy to clean,easy to use,almost never jams.
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Postby New Thebian Legacy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:30 pm

Canadai wrote:
New Thebian Legacy wrote:Image
TNA-Mk.1 Defense Rifle

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 35 inches
Cartridge: 7.62x45mm
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds/Min
Feed system: 20 or 30 round detachable box magazine
Effective Range: 320 metres fully automatic
380 metres semi automatic
Sights: Adjustable Iron Sights

Modified as per advice, rear sight kind of messes up the appearance of it, but you know, gotta balance form and function.
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With the stock at that angle, wouldn't the gun pull up like a SOB?


Would this be better?

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The 44th Indp Legion wrote:The 44th Independent Legion's primary armnament is the mk.VII Poison Needle Gun, affectionally known as the pennygun. For logistical reasons the poison needles it was designed to shoot are no longer available to ordinary troopers who instead fire slightly less subtle ammunition, in the form of 3" iron spikes at medium velocity.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:56 pm

Here's the revamp of my Battle Rifle, the WMA Mk.1 Infantry Rifle.
Any thoughts?
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Postby Techno-Soviet » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:59 pm

Wolohanistan wrote:Here's the revamp of my Battle Rifle, the WMA Mk.1 Infantry Rifle.
Any thoughts?
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That + Pistol Grip + 14 in. bayonet = I came.
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Postby Thanatophoros » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:16 pm

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The Reaper Infantry Rifle, Mk V.

Weight: 15 pounds
Length: 47 inches
Barrel Length: 27 inches
Caliber: 13.5 x 51 mm Thanatophian
Ammunition Type: Ferromagnetic Slug
Action: Coilgun
Rate of Fire: 500 rpm.
Muzzle Velocity: 2500 ft/s
Effective Range: 600 m
Feed System: 30-round detachable box magazine, 75-round detachable drum magazine.
Sights: Removable Electronic Targeting Sight / Backup Adjustable Iron Sights

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Postby Wolohanistan » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:20 pm

Bayonet you say?
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BAM

I'll be making a Paratrooper carbine, Tecno-Soviet. That'll have a pistol grip.
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Postby Indeos » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:26 pm

Wolohanistan wrote:Bayonet you say?
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BAM

I'll be making a Paratrooper carbine, Tecno-Soviet. That'll have a pistol grip.


Awesome, pure awesome. My only complaint is that it doesn't have rails for a scope.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:30 pm

Indeos wrote:
Wolohanistan wrote:Bayonet you say?
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BAM

I'll be making a Paratrooper carbine, Tecno-Soviet. That'll have a pistol grip.


Awesome, pure awesome. My only complaint is that it doesn't have rails for a scope.


I'll work on a rail system eventually, WMA sees rails as aftermarket so the version shown is just the stock version.
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Postby Indeos » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:32 pm

Wolohanistan wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Wolohanistan wrote:Bayonet you say?
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I'll be making a Paratrooper carbine, Tecno-Soviet. That'll have a pistol grip.


Awesome, pure awesome. My only complaint is that it doesn't have rails for a scope.


I'll work on a rail system eventually, WMA sees rails as aftermarket so the version shown is just the stock version.


I figured it would be something like that. I'll have to adopt this as my militia rifle. Also, you should just change it to Mk. 2 and sell it as a different rifle, with some sort of improvement over the Mk. 1.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:06 pm

Sweet battle rifle.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:08 pm

Questers wrote:Sweet battle rifle.


Thanks, that means alot coming from you. Your line art's amazing!

Here's that paratrooper carbine version.
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