What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Bryn Shander]

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Also, I've revised it a bit, too.

While I honestly think that's a nice weapon, I fail to see how this doesn't get called bulky while the Union's main assault rifle, the FM-BHAR does.

It's called ergonomics. The grip on your rifle is almost as high as your stock and it's angled sharply forward. Unless you're firing like .22LR, prepare to break wrists. Satirius' rifle looks heavy as hell, but at least it looks a lot more comfortable to hold.

Are you retarded or something? The recoil is absorbed by the shoulder, not the hands. The hands hold the weapon firmly to the shoulder.

[Noders]

-snip-
Also, I've revised it a bit, too.

While I honestly think that's a nice weapon, I fail to see how this doesn't get called bulky while the Union's main assault rifle, the FM-BHAR does.

It's called ergonomics. The grip on your rifle is almost as high as your stock and it's angled sharply forward. Unless you're firing like .22LR, prepare to break wrists. Satirius' rifle looks heavy as hell, but at least it looks a lot more comfortable to hold.

Are you retarded or something? The recoil is absorbed by the shoulder, not the hands. The hands hold the weapon firmly to the shoulder.

he corrected himself

[Uawc]

In an effort to standardize its equipment and simplify logistics, the UAWC has decided to make our CS-RO bullpup battle rifle the new main weapon of the Union. We've taken advantage of its high modularity, coming up with four standard configurations of the rifle to suit different purposes. Of course, there are many, many other configurations - the CS-RO is to the Union what the AR-15 is to capitalist countries.

First off, the standard, original version, simply called the CS-RO. Fires 7.62x54mm from a box magazine of 25 rounds (both larger and smaller magazines are available). Has a two-stage trigger and an internal safety. When on fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. The CS-RO was originally designed as a designated marksman rifle, but due to its relatively compact size compared to other rifles of the same type, high degree of accuracy, and other factors, it has found its place in many different roles. It is, as aforementioned, highly modular, and can be customized in many different ways. This rifle has been in service with the Union for many years and remains virtually unchanged.

Next up is the AR-RO. It's the assault rifle version, and fires 7.62x39mmC (Our version of 7.62x39, optimized for tumbling which significantly boosts the lethality of the round). It can use old, cheap AK mags, though usually is loaded with new ones of 30 (both larger and smaller mags exist, however). Like the other versions of the CS-RO, it has a two-stage trigger. Unlike them, it's 600 RPM when fully automatic.

And now for the MG-RO, the machine gun configuration. Can work as either a light or general purpose machine gun, feeding from either AK mags or boxes of 50, 70, 75, 100, and other sizes. Two-stage trigger, of course, and the MG-RO fires at 700 RPM when on fully automatic. It can be chambered in 7.62x39mmC or 7.62x54mm.

Finally, we have the MP-RO. Nearly a submachine gun, it can lay down high volumes of fire and is meant for CQB in urban environments, for use by special ops teams. Again, 7.62x39mmC, 30-round mag with larger and smaller ones available. Two-stage trigger, 800 RPM when fully automatic. This is the least accurate of the CS-RO standard versions. However, due to its bullpup design it still has a long barrel by carbine standards and is still accurate enough to be useful.

All versions of the CS-RO are gas-operated and fire from a rotating bolt. And, in reality, these are all pretty much the same gun with only a couple different extra parts. A Union soldier can be trained to turn one into the other fairly quickly and easily, and the CS-RO comes with all the parts necessary to do so.

[Satirius]

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Also, I've revised it a bit, too.

While I honestly think that's a nice weapon, I fail to see how this doesn't get called bulky while the Union's main assault rifle, the FM-BHAR does.

It's called ergonomics. The grip on your rifle is almost as high as your stock and it's angled sharply forward. Unless you're firing like .22LR, prepare to break wrists. Satirius' rifle looks heavy as hell, but at least it looks a lot more comfortable to hold.

Like any self-respecting modern weapon, it also rapes the hell out of lightweight polymers. G11 was only 9 and a half pounds loaded, yo.

[Strykla]

BFG.

[Solyhniya]

While we're on PDWs, allow me to introduce the Spaškov ZSO-300.

The ZSO-300 is Spaškov Industries' most successful attempt at a personal defence weapon. It is used by tank crews, security guards, bodyguards and special forces amongst others.

It fires the standard 6.1x35mm PDW round used in Solyhniya and some other Eurasian countries. A highly asymmetric design, the collapsible stock is held only on the right-hand side of the weapon, whilst the side-fed, 54 round magazine is loaded on the left.

The magazine feeds from the rear. To load, the mag should be thrust towards the front locking mechanism (the grey area to the front of the clip); the clip fits into a system pivoting on a fulcrum, allowing the user to easily swing and slam the magazine into the receiving end. To charge the weapon, the magazine is drawn back temporarily; it will readjust to its original position.

The ZSO-300 is moderately accurate, and is "precise" when fired semi-auto at ranges of up to 300m. It has a high rate of fire of 880rpm.

EDIT: Apologies, the case ejector is difficult to point out. It's the rectangular indent on the right of the weapon.

[Satirius]

While we're on PDWs, allow me to introduce the Spaškov ZSO-300.

The ZSO-300 is Spaškov Industries' most successful attempt at a personal defence weapon. It is used by tank crews, security guards, bodyguards and special forces amongst others.

It fires the standard 6.1x35mm PDW round used in Solyhniya and some other Eurasian countries. A highly asymmetric design, the collapsible stock is held only on the right-hand side of the weapon, whilst the side-fed, 54 round magazine is loaded on the left.

The magazine feeds from the rear. To load, the mag should be thrust towards the front locking mechanism (the grey area to the front of the clip); the clip fits into a system pivoting on a fulcrum, allowing the user to easily swing and slam the magazine into the receiving end. To charge the weapon, the magazine is drawn back temporarily; it will readjust to its original position.

The ZSO-300 is moderately accurate, and is "precise" when fired semi-auto at ranges of up to 300m. It has a high rate of fire of 880rpm.

EDIT: Apologies, the case ejector is difficult to point out. It's the rectangular indent on the right of the weapon.

I can only imagine the ease of rushing this weapon. Forget tank crews, this could be the AK of submachine guns.

[Auman]

Have you ever actually used any of the cartridges you're talking about?

In the real world, I'd bet money that UAWC has never actually touched a real weapon.

I can tell he's never fired a .454 round, because I'm good friends with people who own .500S&W Magnums, and even THEY don't like shooting .454.

OOC: That's not true. I have several bladed weapons and have fired a 9mm handgun.

Given the context of the current discussion, it should be fairly obvious that when people accuse you of never having "touched a real weapon" that what is inferred is in fact a firearm. Now, you state you have fired "a 9mm handgun." The fact that it was one handgun (and by your phrasing, I'm assuming it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience) and that that was the extent of the details you have given us only serves to reinforce your obvious lack of experience with real life firearms.

I have fired muzzle-loading muskets and rifles on several occasions. My uncle collects guns and I've fired an AK-47 on full-auto. Does that make me an expert? Hell no. But do I pretend to be one and stubbornly refuse any advice given me? No. I exaggerate not when I say that at least 1/4 of this thread is your ignorant nonsense and the arguments and accusations that follow.

OOC: I live in Canada. Guns are hard to get here. And FFS, I'm just doing an RP. Can we not dump a big pile of serious on the thread? It makes it less enjoyable.

OOC: I live in Canada, guns are not hard to get here. Go to a local gun store and ask for your CFSC test and take it. If you fail, call one of the many instructors around to run a safety course for you. If you fail the test, you are retarded and shouldn't own guns anyway.

[Uawc]

Have you ever actually used any of the cartridges you're talking about?

In the real world, I'd bet money that UAWC has never actually touched a real weapon.

I can tell he's never fired a .454 round, because I'm good friends with people who own .500S&W Magnums, and even THEY don't like shooting .454.

OOC: That's not true. I have several bladed weapons and have fired a 9mm handgun.

Given the context of the current discussion, it should be fairly obvious that when people accuse you of never having "touched a real weapon" that what is inferred is in fact a firearm. Now, you state you have fired "a 9mm handgun." The fact that it was one handgun (and by your phrasing, I'm assuming it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience) and that that was the extent of the details you have given us only serves to reinforce your obvious lack of experience with real life firearms.

I have fired muzzle-loading muskets and rifles on several occasions. My uncle collects guns and I've fired an AK-47 on full-auto. Does that make me an expert? Hell no. But do I pretend to be one and stubbornly refuse any advice given me? No. I exaggerate not when I say that at least 1/4 of this thread is your ignorant nonsense and the arguments and accusations that follow.

OOC: I live in Canada. Guns are hard to get here. And FFS, I'm just doing an RP. Can we not dump a big pile of serious on the thread? It makes it less enjoyable.

OOC: I live in Canada, guns are not hard to get here. Go to a local gun store and ask for your CFSC test and take it. If you fail, call one of the many instructors around to run a safety course for you. If you fail the test, you are retarded and shouldn't own guns anyway.

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once. Also, you're not allowed to have magazines with more than 5 rounds in them, and that pisses me off.

[Byelorussian SSR]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once. Also, you're not allowed to have magazines with more than 5 rounds in them, and that pisses me off.

OOC: That may be true, but I've seen the 'sportsterized' ak variants with 5 rd mags, but can take the original mags with no problem/very little modifying. Or so I'm told...

[Byelorussian SSR]

Hey guys made a submachine gun.


The SMG7 is a conventional machine pistol as far as our weapons go (straight blowback, cased ammunition, etc, etc.), and it will accept any rail-mounted sight. Chambered in 9mm armor-pierecing Parabellum (ooc: whatever the hell Luger Para the PP2000 uses), the magazine is stored in the plastic handguard. A later revision may include integrated ironsights, but as of now it is speculation.

Coloration is for our navy and Riot Control officers. Different coloration, is of course, available.

That is one of the greatest guns I've seen posted in long time! Very ingenious!

[Uawc]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once. Also, you're not allowed to have magazines with more than 5 rounds in them, and that pisses me off.

OOC: That may be true, but I've seen the 'sportsterized' ak variants with 5 rd mags, but can take the original mags with no problem/very little modifying. Or so I'm told...

That's true, they can...but how the hell do you get them legally?

[Brostan]

The new assault rifle created in the United Federation of Brostan, the XBAR-7 (Experimental Bulprup Assault Rifle), promises to replace all existing weapons as the standard issue weapon in the United Federation of Brostan's armed forces. It fires the 6.8 Remington SPC cartridge from a 30 round magazine at 700RPM, more stats to come.

[Uawc]

In an effort to standardize its equipment and simplify logistics, the UAWC has decided to make our CS-RO bullpup battle rifle the new main weapon of the Union. We've taken advantage of its high modularity, coming up with four standard configurations of the rifle to suit different purposes. Of course, there are many, many other configurations - the CS-RO is to the Union what the AR-15 is to capitalist countries.

First off, the standard, original version, simply called the CS-RO. Fires 7.62x54mm from a box magazine of 25 rounds (both larger and smaller magazines are available). Has a two-stage trigger and an internal safety. When on fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. The CS-RO was originally designed as a designated marksman rifle, but due to its relatively compact size compared to other rifles of the same type, high degree of accuracy, and other factors, it has found its place in many different roles. It is, as aforementioned, highly modular, and can be customized in many different ways. This rifle has been in service with the Union for many years and remains virtually unchanged.

Next up is the AR-RO. It's the assault rifle version, and fires 7.62x39mmC (Our version of 7.62x39, optimized for tumbling which significantly boosts the lethality of the round). It can use old, cheap AK mags, though usually is loaded with new ones of 30 (both larger and smaller mags exist, however). Like the other versions of the CS-RO, it has a two-stage trigger. Unlike them, it's 600 RPM when fully automatic.

And now for the MG-RO, the machine gun configuration. Can work as either a light or general purpose machine gun, feeding from either AK mags or boxes of 50, 70, 75, 100, and other sizes. Two-stage trigger, of course, and the MG-RO fires at 700 RPM when on fully automatic. It can be chambered in 7.62x39mmC or 7.62x54mm.

Finally, we have the MP-RO. Nearly a submachine gun, it can lay down high volumes of fire and is meant for CQB in urban environments, for use by special ops teams. Again, 7.62x39mmC, 30-round mag with larger and smaller ones available. Two-stage trigger, 800 RPM when fully automatic. This is the least accurate of the CS-RO standard versions. However, due to its bullpup design it still has a long barrel by carbine standards and is still accurate enough to be useful.

All versions of the CS-RO are gas-operated and fire from a rotating bolt. And, in reality, these are all pretty much the same gun with only a couple different extra parts. A Union soldier can be trained to turn one into the other fairly quickly and easily, and the CS-RO comes with all the parts necessary to do so.

Nobody has an opinion on the CS-RO rifle family?

[Uawc]

The new assault rifle created in the United Federation of Brostan, the XBAR-7 (Experimental Bulprup Assault Rifle), promises to replace all existing weapons as the standard issue weapon in the United Federation of Brostan's armed forces. It fires the 6.8 Remington SPC cartridge from a 30 round magazine at 700RPM, more stats to come.

Stock looks too long, and I think you should use folding sights instead of fixed ones. Otherwise, nice job.

[Fatatatutti]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once.

OOC: There's one four blocks from my house. I've never been inside it. Like a Fatatatutian, I'd find more use for a giraffe than a gun.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once.

OOC: There's one four blocks from my house. I've never been inside it. Like a Fatatatutian, I'd find more use for a giraffe than a gun.

That is a terrible analogy, you could not find anything better to compare a gun to?

[Noders]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once.

OOC: There's one four blocks from my house. I've never been inside it. Like a Fatatatutian, I'd find more use for a giraffe than a gun.

^ What's a giraffe useful for?

SUP DUDE

[Uawc]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once.

OOC: There's one four blocks from my house. I've never been inside it. Like a Fatatatutian, I'd find more use for a giraffe than a gun.

Wait, do you live in Ontario?

[Fatatatutti]

OOC: I've never seen a Canadian gun store, not once.

OOC: There's one four blocks from my house. I've never been inside it. Like a Fatatatutian, I'd find more use for a giraffe than a gun.

That is a terrible analogy, you could not find anything better to compare a gun to?

It's not an analogy. I said that, for me, a gun has as many uses as a giraffe (hint: zero). I could have said "submarine polisher" or "moon-dust display case".

[Fatatatutti]

Wait, do you live in Ontario?

Hell, no.

[Uawc]

Wait, do you live in Ontario?

Hell, no.

OOC: Well, that explains it.

I'll take my second guess at BC.

[Fatatatutti]

OOC: I'll take my second guess at BC.

OOC: Even worse. And no, you don't get ten guesses.

(Why is it so windy on the prairies? Because BC blows and Ontario sucks.)

[Uawc]

(Why is it so windy on the prairies? Because BC blows and Ontario sucks.)

Was that a fart joke?

[Albrante]

Because of the recent talk about swords I will unveil the latest addition to the Albrantean Arsenal:

The BS-2 or Battle Stiletto One.

With our high tech guns and large quantity of guided cruise missiles we felt our repertoire was missing something. We had previously been using a two knife system, then we swapped to standard, stainless steel stilettos. So now we have made a further step on the road to an advanced man-portable melee system. The blade itself is made of a expensive and high quality steel-carbide, the blade can be used as a utility knife and is very useful for stabbing and parrying combat knife attacks. It can be put directly onto the barrel of a LA-7 Assault Rifle and its handle is made of a non-conductive and heat resistant polymer. The knife can also be physically "clipped" into the scabbard and the scabbard itself has a serrated edge which allows it to be used as a small handsaw as not to dull the blade on thicker obstacles. Finally the knife can attack to the scabbard in a way that it can act as a set of wire cutters, useful for repair, utility and cutting any stray razor wire.

So what do yall think?