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Postby Jagalonia » Sat May 26, 2012 1:15 am

I'm just gona tag this and come back to it later...=.=
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NS Military Realism Consultation Thread v2

Postby Anemos Major » Sat May 26, 2012 6:01 am

The Nationstates Military Realism Consultation Thread (version 2.0)

Confused about how to design a weapon? Wondering about how to get your head around the divisions and battalions that make up your armies?

Worry. No. More.

The hotshot1 successor2 to the wildly popular NS Military Realism Consultation Thread, NSMRCTv2 is here to answer your every question, and fulfil your every need.

tl;dr Ask questions if you have them, answer them if you can. Put things up for feedback, and we'll give that too. The last thread was brilliant because of the community that developed around it - let's keep that going!

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Postby Anemos Major » Sat May 26, 2012 6:03 am

Just to kick things off, I was wondering - does anybody have any good ideas on how to take a WWII Junkers Ju 87D and strap a jet engine/jet engines to it?

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 6:13 am

Probably not.
You're attempting to imbue a dive bomber with much more power than it was ever intended to take. What'd be the purpose?
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Postby Anemos Major » Sat May 26, 2012 6:26 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Probably not.
You're attempting to imbue a dive bomber with much more power than it was ever intended to take. What'd be the purpose?


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Postby Bajireyn » Sat May 26, 2012 7:27 am

Infantry-portable nuclear missile launchers,Y/N?
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Postby Immoren » Sat May 26, 2012 7:35 am

Bajireyn wrote:Infantry-portable nuclear missile launchers,Y/N?


Y
Edit: I think now I am confusing manportable with manpacked.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 7:38 am

Sorry!
Also, tag.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 7:39 am

Gentlemen (and especially Anemos) I am indeed sorry to inform we have been beaten to le punch.
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Postby Bajireyn » Sat May 26, 2012 7:51 am

Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen wrote:by posting in this thread you concede that nuclear warfare is 100% normal and rational, amirite?

Yes,nuclear warfare is the best kind of warfare!
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Postby Bajireyn » Sat May 26, 2012 7:55 am

Immoren wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:Infantry-portable nuclear missile launchers,Y/N?


Y
Edit: I think now I am confusing manportable with manpacked.

Well considering that Bajireyn is FT,I could easily make a man-portable nuclear weapon.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat May 26, 2012 8:52 am

Galla- wrote:guys there is a tag button at the bottom of the page you know that rite?

rite?

Hory sheet he's right. There's also a delete board cookies option. As in delete all my tags. I'm about to go HIGH SPEED LOW DRAG on my tags.


Nevermind. That's not what it does.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 9:00 am

The tag button doesn't really remind you about 'tagged' threads, unlike posting 'tag' (admittedly annoyingly), where the thread now appears in your 'view your posts', which is easily where I spend most of my time on this site.
It gets filed away somewhere in your UCP which I only use to tweak my sig.
Which as you can see, was last done some time ago.
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Postby Immoren » Sat May 26, 2012 9:28 am

Galla- wrote:guys there is a tag button at the bottom of the page you know that rite?

rite?


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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat May 26, 2012 9:52 am

To be on topic of realism consultation and everything, I was thinking of having everyone in my Army equipped with and required to carry a side arm at all times when on base/deployed, and that every six months they must re-qualify with the sidearm through some type of simple combat shooting test. Outside of the use of ammunition are their any major downsides to this? And what type of test should I use for the re-qualification?

P.S. the main sidearm of my nation is a .40 S&W pistol, along the lines of a GLock.
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Postby Kouralia » Sat May 26, 2012 10:02 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:And what type of test should I use for the re-qualification?,

Weapons Handling Test?

It's what we have to do with the L98, L85, #8 and L86 LSW at cadets.

1) Bomb up a magazine with 10 rounds in 20 seconds
2) Successfully strip and reassemble the system
3) Answer a few questions on the system (e.g. what are the dimensions of the flanelette used to clean the barrel? 45mmx45mm)
4) Successfully prove capability to complete all stoppage drills.

Obviously the exacts of this would be different, but you get the idea.
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Postby Bafuria » Sat May 26, 2012 10:03 am

Since we're talking about n00ks, look what FEMA expected to deal with in 1990.

http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/ca.jpg

Granted, LA is a big city but nuking it 30+ times?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 10:29 am

Bafuria wrote:Since we're talking about n00ks, look what FEMA expected to deal with in 1990.

http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/ca.jpg

Granted, LA is a big city but nuking it 30+ times?

Hey, the Soviet Army was happy with as many as 70 nukes being dropped on individual divisions!
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat May 26, 2012 10:38 am

Bafuria wrote:Since we're talking about n00ks, look what FEMA expected to deal with in 1990.

http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/ca.jpg

Granted, LA is a big city but nuking it 30+ times?


Well LA is a port and transportation hub, to deny that to your enemy you would have to use a large number of nukes, as roads, railroads and port infrastructure are hard to destroy.

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Spirit of Hope";p="<a href="tel:9463506">9463506</a> wrote:And what type of test should I use for the re-qualification?,

Weapons Handling Test?

It's what we have to do with the L98, L85, #8 and L86 LSW at cadets.

1) Bomb up a magazine with 10 rounds in 20 seconds
2) Successfully strip and reassemble the system
3) Answer a few questions on the system (e.g. what are the dimensions of the flanelette used to clean the barrel? 45mmx45mm)
4) Successfully prove capability to complete all stoppage drills.

Obviously the exacts of this would be different, but you get the idea.


Well I was more meaning the shooting part, the rest I knew should be there.
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Postby Licana » Sat May 26, 2012 10:44 am

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Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen wrote:by posting in this thread you concede that nuclear warfare is 100% normal and rational, amirite?


I agree to these glorious terms.

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Postby Arkania 5 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:45 am

Is HULC MT?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 10:47 am

Well, it exists now, so certainly.

Also, check out New York:
http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/ny.jpg
Maryland, Arizona and Nevada are all relatively untouched by nukes by comparison, while Ohio and Florida are pretty highly struck. Michigan's dispersal is similar to NY State, all centred around the famous city (Detroit, in this case) and limited strikes elsewhere.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat May 26, 2012 11:01 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Well, it exists now, so certainly.

Also, check out New York:
http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/ny.jpg
Maryland, Arizona and Nevada are all relatively untouched by nukes by comparison, while Ohio and Florida are pretty highly struck. Michigan's dispersal is similar to NY State, all centred around the famous city (Detroit, in this case) and limited strikes elsewhere.


Well New York and Detroit are both transportation hubs so by destroying them you deny the US The transportation hub. And as I previously said you need a couple nukes to reliably take out roads railroads and ports.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 26, 2012 11:05 am

Is there any certain place in the states you could call a military manufacturing hub? Like where they primarily construct/assemble Abrams battle tanks, is the Springfield Armoury still the 'big' US arms manufacturing company, etc?
I imagine any such place would be upon the receiving end of enough nuclear sunshine to give me a mild tan from way across the pond.
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