MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Evileel]

The Main Weapon of The Grand Duchy of Evileel is a Pony.
Here is a footage which demonstrates how it works:

[Britinthia]

Point being that lots of N00bs post 'Ak47' as their MMW, even though there is a better option for MT purposes. They should use the AK74, AKM or some other weapon if they want a Kalashnikov in MT.

And if they're RPing a dirt broke third world nation that can't afford the AK-74M or just as obsolete AKM?

There's no point, it's just beating people down who have a poor understanding of weapons variety. Anyway, I won't turn this into a war; opinions are gloriously irrelevant.

I sorta agree with this. There is no reason to go around trying to "guide" people who wish to use the AK47 no matter how obsolete it is. Let them. The whole point of NS is choice for the sake of choice. This is the reason my Militias are issued with a wooden rifle that has a full stock over the conventional pistol grip stock. Because I can.

[Fischermann]

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Bolter

read it and weap

It's a shame that bolters never seem to be done properly whenever they decide to make a 40k game. They're pretty much just large-calibre machineguns in Dawn of War and Space Marine, and even in Firewarrior (which is probably the closest to accurate depiction I've seen) they're really just rapid-fire mini-grenade launchers.

They are just rapid fire mini grenade launchers.

But they are gyrojets too.

[Indeos]

That's gotta be the fastest we've gone through marks of threads. Which reminds me; I should go through and write up a whole list of the weapons in use in Indeos.

And if they're RPing a dirt broke third world nation that can't afford the AK-74M or just as obsolete AKM?

There's no point, it's just beating people down who have a poor understanding of weapons variety. Anyway, I won't turn this into a war; opinions are gloriously irrelevant.

I sorta agree with this. There is no reason to go around trying to "guide" people who wish to use the AK47 no matter how obsolete it is. Let them. The whole point of NS is choice for the sake of choice. This is the reason my Militias are issued with a wooden rifle that has a full stock over the conventional pistol grip stock. Because I can.

The point is that it doesn't make any sense. The AKM is cheaper and better, hence why it's used by insurgent forces everywhere; the -47 is more a museum piece than a weapon.

It's a shame that bolters never seem to be done properly whenever they decide to make a 40k game. They're pretty much just large-calibre machineguns in Dawn of War and Space Marine, and even in Firewarrior (which is probably the closest to accurate depiction I've seen) they're really just rapid-fire mini-grenade launchers.

They are just rapid fire mini grenade launchers.

But they are gyrojets too.

^This. Though, tbh, the HMG approach is probably the most accurate considering what they're shot at.

Also, are you done with that post yet?

[Crookfur]

Not to be a pisser on the OP's parade but the "AK-47" and the AKM are entirely different animals and the AK-47 does exist...So yes, it is an acceptable answer.

Anyway.

The QBZ-03 is the 'main' small arm of the People's Liberation Army (across all branches that operate ground forces).

Technically the AK-47 was simply the prototype/pre production rifle put forward for testing and then accepted for service as the plain old AK.

Calling original production kalashnikovs AK-47s is a purely western invention but one ole' Mikhail is happy to endorse.

Anyway just saying you use AK's leaves thign nice and vague and puts an end to "no you eman AKM" when they actually mean some random kyber pass bolt action copy that uses SKS magazines...

[Crookfur]

It's a shame that bolters never seem to be done properly whenever they decide to make a 40k game. They're pretty much just large-calibre machineguns in Dawn of War and Space Marine, and even in Firewarrior (which is probably the closest to accurate depiction I've seen) they're really just rapid-fire mini-grenade launchers.

They are just rapid fire mini grenade launchers.

But they are gyrojets too.

not really gyrojets, but its they are the closest thing that ever been built, well appart from the gyrojet designers other lulz rocket dart gun type thingies.

Bolts having thrust induced spin was never in the "OLD STUFF" canon.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Finally got around to updating the OP with my own systems

[Samozaryadnyastan]

And if they're RPing a dirt broke third world nation that can't afford the AK-74M or just as obsolete AKM?

There's no point, it's just beating people down who have a poor understanding of weapons variety. Anyway, I won't turn this into a war; opinions are gloriously irrelevant.

I sorta agree with this. There is no reason to go around trying to "guide" people who wish to use the AK47 no matter how obsolete it is. Let them. The whole point of NS is choice for the sake of choice. This is the reason my Militias are issued with a wooden rifle that has a full stock over the conventional pistol grip stock. Because I can.

Yes, but the point is that the AKM is better than the AK-47 to the point where use of the AK-47 is outright illogical, unless your nation exists in that brief time period between the introduction of the AK-47 and the AKM.
Not only is the AKM better made, easier and faster to make, more accurate and significantly more reliable, it's even cheaper.
Not to mention, the vast majority of 'AK-47s' found in the world today that aren't AKMs are in fact some kind of clone, often Eastern European, and therefore, not AK-47s.

[Nachfolgia]

the Nachfolgian Wehrmacht uses the H&K G36 as our main assault weapon.

[FreeOlesia]

ONA Machine Pistol
Designed - 1949
Produced - 1950-Present
Calibre - .45 ACP
Action - Blowback-operated, Open bolt
Rate of fire- 800 rpm
Magazine - 30 rounds
Effective Range - 50 to 100M

ONA Service Bullpup Rifle.

Designed - 1948
Produced - 1950-Present
Calibre - 6.5×55mm
Action - Shortstroke Gas Operation.
Rate of Fire - 400-600 RPM
Magazine - 30 rounds.
Effective Range - 700-800m.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

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Pictured are the Nirvashi Service rifle and carbine. You may have noticed they lack a writeup. Reason being, I'm lazy as hell.

Why is your rifle exactly the same length as the carbine (minus the compensator)?

Not to scale, yo.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

So, I'm apparently not great at drawing a hammer.
I'm thinking new stocks to come, as well. This is just a generic 'parts' diagram for it. Still to show bolts, bolt guide rods (both versions), short stroke piston.
And, obviously, a hammer that looks like a hammer.

[Estainia]

OOC: This isn't professionally done, you don't like it, direct your grievances to TG with a civilised tone instead of a "EW NU GO DIE" manner that I have often seen here

The ADK-45 has been the main infantry firearm of the Estainian Military for the better part of the 20th and beginnings of the 21st Century. First designed in 1945 by Boris Alexadrovich it was one of the first selective fire assault rifles; capable of single shot or fully automatic modes. Made primarily of wood and stamped steel parts it is easy and cheap to assemble it is known for having some level of near-legendary reliability. It was first adopted by the Estainian Military in 1946 after testing trials and has served with distinction as the mainstay assault rifle in the Empire for over fifty years.


Designation: ADK-45
Weight: 3.5 kg / 7.7 lb
Length: 870 mm (34.3 in) fixed wooden stock
Barrel: 415 mm (16.3 in)
Cartridge: 7.62x39
Action: Gas Operated - Tilting Bolt
Rounds Per Minute: 650
Muzzle Velocity: 715 m/s (2,346 ft/s)
Effective Range: 300 metres (330 yd) full automatic / 410 metres (409 yd) semi-automatic
Feed System: 30 - 40 round detachable box magazine
Vision / Sights: Adjustable iron sights, 100–800 metre adjustments, 378 mm (14.9 in) sight radius

[Hodori]

The primary small arm of the Hodori military is the STR6-5 ambidextrous modular bullpup rifle in 300, 400, or 520 configurations.

Ammunition used by the Hodori military
- 9x25mm Hodoran, used in the ZG9 series of semi-automatic pistols;
- 17.5mm LL, used in the LLR17-5 family of less-lethal rifles, with Oleoresin Capsicum (red-orange shell, OC fill), marker paint (blue shell, orange paint fill), and kinetic discouragement (yellow, solid rubber);
- 5.5x44mm Hodoran, used in the phased-out R5-5 family of assault rifles;
- 6.5x46mm Hodoran, used in the current R6-5 family of assault rifles;
- 7.5x56mm Hodoran, used in the R7-5 family of battle rifles and KR7-5 sniper rifle;
- 13.5x101mm Hodoran, used in the KR13-5 anti-materiel rifle

[Spreewerke]

So, I'm apparently not great at drawing a hammer.
I'm thinking new stocks to come, as well. This is just a generic 'parts' diagram for it. Still to show bolts, bolt guide rods (both versions), short stroke piston.
And, obviously, a hammer that looks like a hammer.

The reason you aren't good at drawing a hammer is because of two things:

One, your hammer's pivot point is nowhere near your hammer pin in the receiver, and...

Two, you should just base it off of these:

As for Spreewerke, we use a few different small arms, all of which are based off of the AK system. The current rifle being introduced and fielded is the T3-12 series of rifles. I will separate them into separate categories and post images in spoilers.

Base Carbine

The T3-12 is basically a shortened T3-11 with a folding stock similar to the AK-74M/AK-100 series. It fires 7.62x39mm just like the weapon it was based on. The '12 differs from the '11 in other ways than just length, as well. It features a flash suppressor rather than a muzzle brake. Though this means felt recoil and visible muzzle rise are slightly higher than its predecessor, it also means the rifle has a far less visible firing signature. A firer in a semi-concealed position would, therefore, have a less-visible muzzle flash, a quieter rifle (due to how the gases are directed), and a less visible firing signature while firing prone in dirt/dust (gases aren't pushed to the sides only and kicking it up now). The rifle also features a more ergonomical safety. Rather than the standard AK-style, the safety has been moved over to the left-hand side of the receiver, just above the pistol grip. It can be manipulated with the thumb and, internally, it is exactly like the original safety bar. Just the position of the lever has been changed/improved (an ambidextrous model is also available: it simply uses surplus T3-11 receivers and, instead of the large lever, a thumb-switch is extended down from the safety's pivoting point). The only downside to this feature is that the rifle is slightly more likely to get dirt in the right side of the receiver since the dust cover safety has been removed. However, due to the beefed up internal design, debris in the receiver would pose relatively little problems. Since it utilizes the same receiver cover as the AK, cleaning the receiver is as simple as "pop, turn, dump." The barrel has also been improved: it is an HBAR-style like the '11, but has been shortened back down to ~16 inches. It produces very good accuracy for the system and is combat effective out to 375m compared to the '11s 400m. There are paratrooper, close-quarters combat, "Western," and .45ACP SMG variant of the T3-12 rifle (SMG is T4S-12).

Battle Rifle

The T5-12 battle rifle has changed little from the T5-11. The only true differences come in its side-folding stock and overall length. The rifle has been shortened to where it is far less cumbersome to wield while still maintaining good accuracy and range. It is chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO/.308 Winchester and is select-fire (semi-, full-). These rifles still use the standard dust cover style AK selector switch. Combat effective range is roughly 550m.

Squad Automatics

The T3SA-11 is the squad-automatic version of the now-outdated T3-11 assault rifle. It fires 7.62x39mm out of a standard 75-round AK drum magazine. The fire rate has been increased very slightly from the T3-11 rifle by using a modified gas port. These rifles are also capable of being mounted on any ground vehicle (jeep, tank, APC, etc) in the Spreewerkian military. The effective range is roughly 400m. It should also be noted that, though these SAWs are issued with an EOTech-style sight and forward grip, many soldiers remove both of these items. If you were to browse various units, you would see that an AimPoint-style optic has been put in the EOTech's place and that many soldiers have simply removed the forward grip.

The T5SA-11 is the squad-automatic chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO used by the Spreewerkian military. It is fed from a custom 50-round drum magazine, so its fire rate has been slightly reduced from the standard models. This is to prolong the time between empty magazines by a second or two. As mentioned, it fires the 7.62NATO round, so its effective range is roughly 600m. As with the T3SA, the T5SA can often times be found with a replaced optic and/or removed foregrip.

Designated Marksmen

The T5MR-12 differs from its T5MR-11 predecessor by being less role-oriented. While the T5MR-11 was, in effect, a very role-oriented weapon that was almost impossible to use outside of the defensive or covering position, the T5MR-12 has been updated to be effective in regular infantry combat if necessary. The '12 features a standard sighting system and quad-rail like what is found on the T5-12 battle rifles. These rifles also feature the AK-100 style folding stock as to make transporting easier (which is almost a must considering its elongated barrel). The effective range for this 7.62x51mm NATO DMR is roughly 850m.

The T3MR is the little brother to the T5MR series. It is, in essence, an accurized T3-11 rifle. It has some accuracy-improving features, however, that make it more suitable to the precision-firing role. For example, the rifle features an RPD-style stock for a more shoulder-fitting feel. The only way this rifle differs from the standard T3-11 is its more fitting stock for stationary fire, addition of optics, and flash suppressor. Effective range is still roughly 400m, but is far more accurate. The rifle is still select-fire, so emergency use of the rifle as an assault weapon is still feasible.

I only posted the weapons that are still in service (except for one or two specialist T3-11s still in use). I'm sure that these will feature minute improvements as time goes on, but for the nation's environment and fighting style, the new '12 series pretty much fits the bill perfectly. Also, as mentioned in one of the spoilers, soldiers in Spreewerke are known for customizing their weapons to an extent. Since military service is compulsory and firearms are, literally, an everyday thing in the country, citizens take pride in improving their weapons and practicing with them. In a squad, you will see each man or woman with their issued rifle/carbine, but what has been added to that base firearm varies vastly, even at the squad level. Soldiers are encouraged to make their rifle "theirs." They are allowed to keep them as private property while in the military and after their service. Therefore, whatever customization they do to the rifle is done to private property.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I tried basing it off the G36's hammer (since that's how the whole rifle disassembles), but I only realised after I drew it that there are a few additional pieces to the G36 hammer.
Off-note - is that your K2's receiver?

[Spreewerke]

I tried basing it off the G36's hammer (since that's how the whole rifle disassembles), but I only realised after I drew it that there are a few additional pieces to the G36 hammer.
Off-note - is that your K2's receiver?

Yes it is. If you want to see the internals of any of my firearms, just let me know. I'll be charging my camera battery, however, as it has been saying "dead" the past couple of days.

[Sevvania]

Full Size: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6939 ... 60c3_b.jpg

Latest revision to the standard-issue Outlander rifle. Fixed proportions of the receiver, improved sights, new barrel, and added a (slightly) less cumbersome sniper scope to the sharpshooter model.

•Cartridge: 7.62x54mmR
•Action: Semi-automatic
•Feed System: Detachable 10-round box

[Cyprum Xecuii]

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Full Size: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6939 ... 60c3_b.jpg

Latest revision to the standard-issue Outlander rifle. Fixed proportions of the receiver, improved sights, new barrel, and added a (slightly) less cumbersome sniper scope to the sharpshooter model.

•Cartridge: 7.62x54mmR
•Action: Semi-automatic
•Feed System: Detachable 10-round box

the second one ( and possible the first one for urban use ) was the type of rifle we were trying to create, except using 6 x 50mm center-fire ammunition with a 20 - 15 capacity integrated box using 5/10/15 round stripper clips so that machine-gunners could feed light machine-guns in case their ammunition were to run out.

OOC: like the design very much

[Dorlania]

What would be a good eastern European weapon from 1921-1945? (besides the Mosin Nagant)

[Indeos]

What would be a good eastern European weapon from 1921-1945? (besides the Mosin Nagant)

Until the '40s(when the SVT-40 and SKS were designed) you're basically stuck with the Mosin, though you could use the Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 or Berdan (the MN replaced this, so I wouldn't recommend it). If you wanna get really fancy, go for the Federov Avtomat.

[Premislyd]

What would be a good length for a bullpup carbine? I was thinking of using the length of the Micro Tar-21 but had second thoughts that it might be too small

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Well, great thing about bullpups is you can have a 'full length' barrel in a platform the size of a conventional carbine.
But, if you can make it 500mm long, that's great, and what I would consider a PDW.

[Indeos]

Well, great thing about bullpups is you can have a 'full length' barrel in a platform the size of a conventional carbine.
But, if you can make it 500mm long, that's great, and what I would consider a PDW.

I've decided I hate the term "PDW" as much as I hate the term carbine. They're both stupidly vague.

[Dorlania]

What would be a good eastern European weapon from 1921-1945? (besides the Mosin Nagant)

Until the '40s(when the SVT-40 and SKS were designed) you're basically stuck with the Mosin, though you could use the Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 or Berdan (the MN replaced this, so I wouldn't recommend it). If you wanna get really fancy, go for the Federov Avtomat.

Thanks, I'll use the Steyr-Mannlicher for now