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Should Chuporosa legalize pot?

Poll ended at Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:25 am

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No
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Sometimes (The holidays)
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Total votes : 60

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Chuporosa
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Postby Chuporosa » Tue May 24, 2011 11:25 am

Many people have come into my office asking "We need to legalize pot,dude" and I have rather large concerns, the government of Chuporosa and the deceased nation of Espanio have been dazzled by how many people have said this; we cannot decide so we are leaving it up to you whether to allow Weed, Marijuana and pot to be on the streets in every corner shop, away from children obviously.
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Postby Georgism » Tue May 24, 2011 11:40 am

Yes, but don't put it on sale. Nationalise it and give each citizen a weekly ration of 12 ounces.
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Postby Conscentia » Tue May 24, 2011 11:46 am

We are with no...we want to keep rates of schizophrenia down. Marijuana can cause schizophrenia just in-case you didn't know.

Your missing the non-extreme options:
- For medical purposes only.
- Legalise possession of small amounts
- Legal only for those with a license.
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Postby Georgism » Tue May 24, 2011 11:53 am

Conscentia wrote:We are with no...we want to keep rates of schizophrenia down. Marijuana can cause schizophrenia just in-case you didn't know.

Your missing the non-extreme options:
- For medical purposes only.
- Legalise possession of small amounts
- Legal only for those with a license.

IRL legalisation (well, decriminalisation but whatever) in the Netherlands and Portugal actually led to decreased use.
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Postby Norvenia » Tue May 24, 2011 4:06 pm

If people are smoking marijuana, your problem is cultural, not legal. Legalizing marijuana will neither fix nor worsen this cultural problem. If people feel the need to escape reality by getting high, that is the issue you need to address, not legalization. Making marijuana legal simply surrenders to the symptom without even attempting to deal with the cause.

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Postby Saurisisia » Tue May 24, 2011 4:14 pm

Marijuana and most other recreational drugs sans Nicotine, Alcohol, and Caffeine are illegal.
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Postby Misthurst » Tue May 24, 2011 4:48 pm

Norvenia wrote:If people are smoking marijuana, your problem is cultural, not legal. Legalizing marijuana will neither fix nor worsen this cultural problem. If people feel the need to escape reality by getting high, that is the issue you need to address, not legalization. Making marijuana legal simply surrenders to the symptom without even attempting to deal with the cause.


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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue May 24, 2011 5:01 pm

"I think marijuana is just nature's way of saying hi." - Method Man

We feel all adults have the right to decide for themselves which intoxicants they wish to use. We prefer to ensure potential users are educated on the risks rather than blanket bans that violate personal rights and freedoms.

Conscentia wrote:We are with no...we want to keep rates of schizophrenia down. Marijuana can cause schizophrenia just in-case you didn't know.

Your missing the non-extreme options:
- For medical purposes only.
- Legalise possession of small amounts
- Legal only for those with a license.


OOC: No it can't. If it did industrialized nations should have seen a 4x increase in rates of schizophrenia in the western world between 1965 and 2005, instead we didn't. While studies have shown a connection between early use of marijuana and schizophrenia, they've never demonstrated a cause and effect relationship.
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Tue May 24, 2011 6:56 pm

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Postby Threlizdun » Tue May 24, 2011 7:01 pm

Marijuana actually posesses no medical benefits, so that arguement is wrong. However, it is less harmful and far less addictive than tobacco. It also calms the individual, rather than inciting anger as alcohol often does. If you have either tobacco or alcohol legal, then it makes no sense not to. Personally, we don't believe anyone has the right to tell you what you can or can't do with your own body anyways.
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Postby Maraque » Tue May 24, 2011 7:47 pm

Marijuana is legal in Tsvarchi, and even so less than 5% of Tsvarchivans have smoked it, and less than 1% smoke it regularly. It really isn't a big thing here.

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Postby Greater Rhodes » Tue May 24, 2011 10:21 pm

Marijuana is legal in Greater Rhodes, it is seen as a fairly common recreational drug (much more so than some harder drugs like LSD and cocaine, among others), and a less used form of medicine. Approximately 30% of the population has at one point tried using marijuana, while 10% regularly use the drug. Of these 10%, 40% use a vaporizer or similar apparatus, 28% use rolling papers or hollowed-out cigars, 20% use a bong, and 12% make it into marijuana drinks and foodstuffs.
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Postby Conservative Alliances » Tue May 24, 2011 10:27 pm

Yes, with absolutely no regulation. Freedom supersedes any concerns regarding safety or control.
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The Kangaroo Republic
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Postby The Kangaroo Republic » Tue May 24, 2011 10:31 pm

Legalize it, especially if you've already legalized tobacco and alcohol, which, according to this scale here below me:
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...are borderline drugs, that means they're nearly freaking hard drugs. While all the way down there in the yellow area, you will find Cannabis, a soft drug.
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Distratopia
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Postby Distratopia » Tue May 24, 2011 10:37 pm

A large part of the cartels income comes from Marijuana, if you want a safe nation, then the government must control the drug market, not the criminals. The money is huge and the drugs wont go away. It is not fair that so many people die each year all over the world because of this. Prohibition is stupid and irresponsible.

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Postby Vecherd » Tue May 24, 2011 10:45 pm

We think you should Legalize Cannabis, we did it in 1952 and it has absolutely worked fine.
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Postby Wienholdland » Tue May 24, 2011 10:49 pm

Oh no! But how would the government protect us from marijuana if we legalize it?

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Marisena
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Postby Marisena » Tue May 24, 2011 11:49 pm

Legalize it, corporatise it, tax it.
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Novariea
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Postby Novariea » Wed May 25, 2011 1:02 am

We do not see why not.

Marijuana/Cannabis is legal in Novariea (though regulated and taxed). Nevertheless, it's still not that popular here. But it certainly causes a lot fewer problems than either tobacco or alcohol do, and both of those are legal too.
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Voerdeland
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Postby Voerdeland » Wed May 25, 2011 1:53 am

Legal (like all drugs). Our government doesn't care about such trivia.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed May 25, 2011 10:04 am

In Minoa the use of cannabis, except for prescribed cannabinoids (chemicals within cannabis) is illegal and is a class C drug.
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Postby Jeux II » Wed May 25, 2011 10:10 am

Conscentia wrote:We are with no...we want to keep rates of schizophrenia down. Marijuana can cause schizophrenia just in-case you didn't know.

Your missing the non-extreme options:
- For medical purposes only.
- Legalise possession of small amounts
- Legal only for those with a license.

You are going to die at some time, why not make it more interesting.

Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.
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Postby Lodricar » Wed May 25, 2011 10:14 am

I go with no, just for the saker of keeping your sanity, public safe, peoples' brains alive, and lungs in good health.

Otherwise, heavily tax it, give it to those only with a license, keep it to them only.
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Postby Viste Rosso » Wed May 25, 2011 10:15 am

Marijuana should be legalized if you enjoy giving your citizens true freedom. Marijuana does not hurt anyone except the person using it. If they are an adult, they should have the right to grow, buy, sell, and possess as much marijuana as they please. You must just enforce individuals not selling marijuana within so many feet of a school and enforce no sales to minors. Individuals must also be encouraged to file tax returns for revenues made from selling marijuana. If they fail to file tax returns, you can get them for tax evasion. You must also ban the commercialization of Marijuana, so huge marijuana producing companies don't start opening up and ruining the market.

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Postby Putney Land » Wed May 25, 2011 10:19 am

Threlizdun wrote:Marijuana actually posesses no medical benefits, so that arguement is wrong.
bull. even if minor marijuana does posses some medical benefits. it relieves nausea, which, right there is a medical benefit. otherwise, i'm not completely sure, but theres been tons of research done and it can do some crazy stuff. I've even heard its shown promise in getting rid of some kinds of tumors. regardless it clearly has medical benefits.

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