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Who will OP the next MGVoYN[NM] thread?

Imperializt Russia
39
25%
Anemos Major
52
33%
Questers
8
5%
Dragomere
21
13%
Dostanuot Loj
5
3%
The Kievan People
22
14%
Oaledonia
12
8%
 
Total votes : 159

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:23 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Too soon?

Who makes these?

kashi kosugi made this one, though personifying flight 370 seems like it may be in bad tastes :P
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:24 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Who makes these?

kashi kosugi made this one, though personifying flight 370 seems like it may be in bad tastes :P

With looks like that nothing is in bad taste. Too bad that guy ain't a forum regular. I'd love to see someone make our NS tanks like that.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:29 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:kashi kosugi made this one, though personifying flight 370 seems like it may be in bad tastes :P

With looks like that nothing is in bad taste. Too bad that guy ain't a forum regular. I'd love to see someone make our NS tanks like that.

There are others too~
I honestly would like to invite one of these guys here :P
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:31 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:With looks like that nothing is in bad taste. Too bad that guy ain't a forum regular. I'd love to see someone make our NS tanks like that.

There are others too~
I honestly would like to invite one of these guys here :P

I'd actually rush the tank I am making for that...

This said, I still need a decent viking like name for it. My main problem is that none of the viking nations, not even Iceland seem to have used cavalry and assigned them a special name.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Crookfur
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:48 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:There are others too~
I honestly would like to invite one of these guys here :P

I'd actually rush the tank I am making for that...

This said, I still need a decent viking like name for it. My main problem is that none of the viking nations, not even Iceland seem to have used cavalry and assigned them a special name.


IIRC there is soem eveidence that Vikings did actually fight mounted during thier time in britian and they certainly did when they were transitioning into being Normans...

The anglo saxon word eorod (literally cavalry, infantry was worod). of coruse there is a lot of debate on that as it seems that Anglo saxon/norse elites who could afford horses tended to be very flexible about wether they fought mounted or on foot as part of the sheild wall.

A name that might be useful is Adils, a swedish king from the 6th century who was suggested to have always fought on hrose back, of coruse he would be saddly pre viking but the name coudl easily have lived on. The swedes were certainly into thier horse at the time but again i suspect it was the flexibility of mounted Thegns that stopped cavalry becoming its own term.
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Postby Immoren » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:50 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
FDF tanks use a one colour camouflage pattern.

That colour is tree.

(Image)

Why are FDF pictures so moody?
They're exceedingly hnng.


Because this is the Land Of Mournful Songs.
At least according to one song. :P
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:51 pm

Those are interesting...
But they don't sound right for some reason...

If all else fails I'll just fish through my list of viking names and pick one I like.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Vetok
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Founded: Oct 24, 2009
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Postby Vetok » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:57 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Vetok wrote:(Image)

MY TANK IS FI-Confused about whether it wants a muzzle brake or that thingie in the middle of the barrel. Is it a bore evacuator/excavator?

Neither the evacuator nor brake look especially suitably sized. Nor does the gun barrel, to be honest. Can't imagine a gun that small would strictly require either.


So make it bigger?

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There's a huge brick wall in the road. My tank can't break it down, and because it can't break it down, we can't get through to the magical land of 'Good looking tanks', and we're stuck in Uglyfuckville.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:46 pm

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:53 pm

Roski wrote:(Image)

How you know you are fucked.

Aren't those empty when they land?


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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:14 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:machine spirit

Too soon?

A smidge.
Not if they actually find it.
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United states of brazilian nations
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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:35 pm

coming around nicely. a bit lazy, so it might take some good time for the finished work to come.

Image
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Imperializt Russia wrote:Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:21 pm

United states of brazilian nations wrote:coming around nicely. a bit lazy, so it might take some good time for the finished work to come.

(Image)


What's the gun? Somewhere in the range of 60-76mm?
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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:13 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:
United states of brazilian nations wrote:coming around nicely. a bit lazy, so it might take some good time for the finished work to come.

(Image)


What's the gun? Somewhere in the range of 60-76mm?


actually supposed to be 40mm CTA. yeah, it does look too tick, but if i make it a pixel thinner, it looks too thin.
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Puzikas wrote:
Graznovia wrote:Why does the dude look like Putin?
Did you knot know? There is no Russian people, only clones of Putin. We don't get names, just Numbers.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Kouralia wrote:AKA FiSH and CHiPS(Fighting in Someone's House and Causing Havoc in Public Spaces):p

Fordorsia wrote:Breaking news: The estimated leading cause of death is dying.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.
Puzikas wrote:fuck you for drawing a good looking bulpup AK.
Puzikas wrote:USBN has a sensor that triggers after anything vaguely Brazilian is mentioned.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:16 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Too soon?

A smidge.
Not if they actually find it.

I'm surprised you got it :P
What gave it away?
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:25 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:A smidge.
Not if they actually find it.

I'm surprised you got it :P
What gave it away?

Torn dress, "I'm home", and your sense of humour :P
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Eahland
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Posts: 4419
Founded: Apr 18, 2006
Libertarian Police State

Postby Eahland » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:00 pm

Oaledonia wrote:There are others too~
I honestly would like to invite one of these guys here :P

The whole turning girls into vehicles (or vice versa) thing seriously baffles me. I like cute girls, I like jets and tanks, but I don't see that merging them improves either one. Ah well, :japan:

Purpelia wrote:I'd actually rush the tank I am making for that...

This said, I still need a decent viking like name for it. My main problem is that none of the viking nations, not even Iceland seem to have used cavalry and assigned them a special name.

The Old Norse word for "horseman" or "rider" would be riddari, which has cognates in all the Scandinavian languages, German Ritter, Old English ridere, among others. Ritter and ridere, at least, were used to refer to cavalrymen as well as to just generic dudes riding horses. Old English also had ridwiga (which was the name of our last-generation MBT) and eoredmann, which mean mounted warriors specifically. I'm not sure if Old Norse had equivalents. (My ON dictionary is way, way thinner than my OE dictionaries. I'm not sure if that's just the dictionary, or if the extant ON corpus is really that much smaller than the OE corpus.)

While vikings were often capable of fighting from horseback, and in battle individuals, particularly nobility, often did, they didn't typically operate as cavalry units. If they had horses - and raiding parties would pretty commonly steal them for mobility on land after arriving at their destination - they'd typically operate as mounted infantry... ride to the battle, dismount and fight on foot.
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Tule
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Postby Tule » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:10 pm

I've been trying to develop decent armor for my new MBT, but It turns out that while it's easy to come up with armor that has very good thickness efficiency and mass efficiency against HEAT, APFSDS is hard as fuck to stop with lightweight composites. Furthermore, it's hard to come up with a composite armor sandwich that you can be reasonably sure that works.

So I am seriously considering to just make a hilariously thick, cast steel turret (600 mm or so) and strapping on some Heavy ERA to double its effectiveness.

Y/N?
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The Kievan People
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:28 pm

Tule wrote:I've been trying to develop decent armor for my new MBT, but It turns out that while it's easy to come up with armor that has very good thickness efficiency and mass efficiency against HEAT, APFSDS is hard as fuck to stop with lightweight composites. Furthermore, it's hard to come up with a composite armor sandwich that you can be reasonably sure that works.

So I am seriously considering to just make a hilariously thick, cast steel turret (600 mm or so) and strapping on some Heavy ERA to double its effectiveness.

Y/N?


Forget about thickness efficiency. It hardly matters.

600mm isn't even unusually thick by IRL standards.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:56 pm

The Kievan People wrote:Forget about thickness efficiency. It hardly matters.


it depends on how much volume you have however

air has excellent mass efficiency
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:28 am

Rich and Corporations wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:Forget about thickness efficiency. It hardly matters.


it depends on how much volume you have however

air has excellent mass efficiency

Aerogel might.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:42 am

I have asked this before but can't remember the answer and generally want to start a broader discussion on the topic. So, how effective would a high velocity 63mm tank gun patterned roughly after the ZiS-2 be during the 40's? Could it take on say a KV-1 or a Panther? The shell would probably be in the 63x480mm - 63x500mm range.
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Registug
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Founded: Feb 25, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Registug » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:53 am

Hahaha, misread.

The KV isn't as stronk as the russians would make you think. Panther might have some trouble though, especially from the front. As always, the best way to take out heavily armoured tanks is with flank shots.
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