NationStates: The Trading Card Game

[Shanix]

Nation Name*]The Northern Republic of Vassel [Health*] 6 [Type*]military
[Ability Name and Effect]Reinforcments:By sacrificing this card,you may place two more military types.
[Attack Damage*]4 [Attack Name*]Naval Force
[Attack Effect / Condition]Flip a coin.If heads,the damage is doubled.
[Attack2 Damage]5 [Attack2 Name]Orbital Defense Network
[Attack2 Effect / Condition]Flip a coin.If heads,you may attack a second time.
[Resistance]-2 economic

Those attacks are too powerful, honestly. Minimum, one turn, with only this card, you do 4 damage.

Max, you can do 15. And since you don't specify on the second attack whether it's another attack on the same card or not, you could knock out one card, and possibly knock out a much more powerful card as well. Maybe

[Attack Damage*]4
[Attack Name*]Naval Force
[Attack Effect / Condition] Flip a coin. If heads,the damage is halved.

[Shanix]

Nation Name*]The Northern Republic of Vassel [Health*] 6 [Type*]military
[Ability Name and Effect]Reinforcments:By sacrificing this card,you may place two more military types.
[Attack Damage*]2 [Attack Name*]Naval Force
[Attack Effect / Condition]Flip a coin. If heads,the damage is doubled.
[Attack2 Damage]5 [Attack2 Name]Orbital Defense Network
[Attack2 Effect / Condition]Flip a coin. If heads, you may attack a second time. First attack does count. You may not attack the same card on the second attack.
[Resistance]-2 economic

Change looks good to me. Though the second attack could be a bit OP, depending on the cards deployed.

[Vassel]

Nation Name*]The Northern Republic of Vassel [Health*] 6 [Type*]military
[Ability Name and Effect]Reinforcments:By sacrificing this card,you may place two more military types.
[Attack Damage*]2 [Attack Name*]Naval Force
[Attack Effect / Condition]Flip a coin. If heads,the damage is doubled.
[Attack2 Damage]5 [Attack2 Name]Orbital Defense Network
[Attack2 Effect / Condition]Flip a coin. If heads, you may attack a second time. First attack does count. You may not attack the same card on the second attack.
[Resistance]-2 economic

Change looks good to me. Though the second attack could be a bit OP, depending on the cards deployed.

Well,I'm using a phone so...

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

[Nation Name*]Central and Eastern Visayas
[Health*]6
[Type*]Political
[Ability Name and Effect]Trade Reform and Recovery Act: Once for every Central and Eastern Visayas card, add one Logistics Point for every Economic card the opponent has in play.
[Attack Damage*]1
[Attack Name*]Air Strike
[Attack Effect / Condition]X
[Attack2 Damage]2+
[Attack2 Name]Para Bellum
[Attack2 Effect / Condition]XXX Deals 2 damage plus 1 damage for every additional Logistics Point.
[Resistance]Economic -2

[Nation Name*]Kamaynilaan
[Health*]7
[Type*]Economic
[Ability Name and Effect]Manilan Protectionism: Once for every Kamaynilaan card, add one Logistics Point for every Economic card in play (both yours and your opponent's). If this card is knocked out after the effect is used, the opponent gets double Objective Points.
[Attack Damage*]2+
[Attack Name*]Imperial Blockade
[Attack Effect / Condition]XXX Deals 2 damage plus 1 damage for every additional Logistics Point.
[Attack2 Damage]2
[Attack2 Name]Word of the Lord
[Attack2 Effect / Condition]XXX The next Word of the Lord deals an additional 1 damage for every Kamaynilaan card you have in play, including this card. Effect can only activate every other turn.
[Resistance]Military -2

[Nation Name*]Western Visayas and Palawan
[Health*]6
[Type*]Military
[Ability Name and Effect]National Service: For every Western Visayas and Palawan card, increase all attack damage by 1 point for every 2 Logistics Points. If this card is knocked out after the ability is activated, the opponent earns double Objective Points.
[Attack Damage*]2+
[Attack Name*]High-speed Bombing Run
[Attack Effect / Condition]XXX Deals 2 damage plus 1 damage for every additional Logistics Point.
[Attack2 Damage]3+
[Attack2 Name]Full Mobilization
[Attack2 Effect / Condition]XXXXX Deals 3 damage plus 1 damage for every additional Logistics Point. Effect does not trigger if National Service has been activated.
[Resistance]Political -2

I'm thinking of a idea for a few cards. Any suggestions?

Is the formula for National Service y = y + (1 x 2L) or y = 1 x (1 + (1 x 2L))?

Each individual WVP card can add one additional attack point for every 2 LP's attached to it.

For example:

WVP card has 4 Logistics Points. If National Service is activated, that translates to an additional 2 attack points. If that same card uses High-speed Bombing Run, which requires 3 LP's and deals a minimum damage of 2, the actual damage dealt by the attack is 5 (2 base damage + 1 additional damage from extra LP + 2 additional damage from the effects of National Service). I added the catch in an attempt to balance it out.

[Jormengand]

Let's redo this:

[Nation Name]Jormengand [Health*] 5 [Type*] Military
[Ability Name and Effect] Bait force: Forces the target enemy (Must be used on an enemy!) nation to immediately use their ability. If their ability is targeted, the controlling player of the target may target the ability at any valid target. (Allows baited nation to decide target) If the ability is not valid at this time, it cannot be the targt of bait force. Bait force is used at any time, even out of sequence, so long as the target ability can also be used out of sequence.
[Attack Damage*] ? [Attack Name*]●●●● Logistical raid
[Attack Effect / Condition]Jormengand loses all logistic points, and the target nation takes 2 damage, plus 1 damage (Changed damage formula) for each logistics point Jormengand lost. (Can no longer take enemy logistics points on kill)
[Attack2 Damage] ? [Attack2 Name]●●●● Interception
[Attack2 Effect / Condition] All nation cards in play lose all logistics points, and take 2 damage for each that they lost. (Kills Jormengand, unless its health is buffed to at least 8 or it can somehow use fewer LP)
[Resistance: -1 to all nations]

Any more suggestions?

[Jenrak]

I feel as if Bait force could lead to a ban on Morlago very quickly without caution. Perhaps in the future, once we figure it, since we have only rudimentary mechanics thus far. Logistical Raid equates to 8 damage for 4 LP, then can be replenished for another 8. That's a OHKO on a non-resistant card, where the highest base set card released thus far is at 8 health. Seems a bit overpowered in this scenario.

Interception is far too broken. A competent player will not play Interception with cards other than a long Jormengand, as a lone Jormengand can wreak havoc / destroy a field by itself.

Let's redo this:

[Nation Name]Jormengand [Health*] 5 [Type*] Military
[Ability Name and Effect] Bait force: Forces the target enemy (Must be used on an enemy!) nation to immediately use their ability. If their ability is targeted, the controlling player of the target may target the ability at any valid target. (Allows baited nation to decide target) If the ability is not valid at this time, it cannot be the targt of bait force. Bait force is used at any time, even out of sequence, so long as the target ability can also be used out of sequence.
[Attack Damage*] ? [Attack Name*]●●●● Logistical raid
[Attack Effect / Condition]Jormengand loses all logistic points, and the target nation takes 2 damage, plus 1 damage (Changed damage formula) for each logistics point Jormengand lost. (Can no longer take enemy logistics points on kill)
[Attack2 Damage] ? [Attack2 Name]●●●● Interception
[Attack2 Effect / Condition] All nation cards in play lose all logistics points, and take 2 damage for each that they lost. (Kills Jormengand, unless its health is buffed to at least 8 or it can somehow use fewer LP)

Thoughts? Also, Kraven's ravage can 1HKO anything, especially when it's taken a lot of damage. Also, it can't be killed so easily by someone with the first turn. I don't see how Logistical raid (which also causes me to lose all my LP) is that OP.

Kraven has no resistance, whereas your card has resistance to all. That's very important, as now Kraven has a hard counter in Lamoni, which discards all LP from one nation. One Kraven has difficulty against Lamoni, which has Military Resistance on it, hence depriving Kraven of a hard-hitting status until the enemy gets out another Nation to sweep.

I'm really against Interception because it says "All Nation cards in play", which means both Actives, both Safe Zones, and then on top of that, they all get hit for 2 damage. Hence, one Jormengand using Interception will shut down an entire field because there's nothing to stop me from playing nothing but 1 Jormengand at a time, use Interception, and then have them lose all LP while I would theoretically only lose 4 and a Jormengand. The problem is an entirely different one from Kraven's.

Is the formula for National Service y = y + (1 x 2L) or y = 1 x (1 + (1 x 2L))?

Each individual WVP card can add one additional attack point for every 2 LP's attached to it.

For example:

WVP card has 4 Logistics Points. If National Service is activated, that translates to an additional 2 attack points. If that same card uses High-speed Bombing Run, which requires 3 LP's and deals a minimum damage of 2, the actual damage dealt by the attack is 5 (2 base damage + 1 additional damage from extra LP + 2 additional damage from the effects of National Service). I added the catch in an attempt to balance it out.

So I assume the wording should be: "This Ability is always in effect. For every 2 Logistics Point attached to this card, add 1 damage after all effects to WVP's total damage output"?

As an FYI to everyone, shuffling and coin flipping cannot be easily done, so do not add it in as effects to anything. The reason is simple: we're using a text forum with no way to figure out the integrity and legitimacy of each other.

On that count, I've updated the Legal Modified list with a few more cards. Milograd and I will sometime today set up a match to test out the rules, the run, and how it functions, if there are no problems, I will set up a tournament right away for NSTCG.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

Not really. The downsides to the National Service ability are doubling the individual WVP card's bounty--I mean Objective Points awarded to the opponent--and the fact that it doesn't stack with one of the card's attack effects. My thought is that National Service can be activated once per card, given the risks. But when activated, it will always be active.

[Jormengand]

both Safe Zones

Ahh, you're right. I didn't mean that to be the case. Let's try this again:

Let's redo this:

[Nation Name]Jormengand [Health*] 5 [Type*] Military
[Ability Name and Effect] Bait force: Forces the target enemy (Must be used on an enemy!) nation to immediately use their ability. If their ability is targeted, the controlling player of the target may target the ability at any valid target. (Allows baited nation to decide target) If the ability is not valid at this time, it cannot be the targt of bait force. Bait force is used at any time, even out of sequence, so long as the target ability can also be used out of sequence.
[Attack Damage*] ? [Attack Name*]●●●● Logistical raid
[Attack Effect / Condition]Jormengand loses all logistic points, and the target nation takes 2 damage, plus 1 damage (Changed damage formula) for each logistics point Jormengand lost. (Can no longer take enemy logistics points on kill)
[Attack2 Damage] ? [Attack2 Name]●●●● Interception
[Attack2 Effect / Condition] All active cards (No longer affects safe zone cards, nor was it ever intended to) lose all logistics points, and take 2 damage for each that they lost. (Kills Jormengand, unless its health is buffed to at least 8 or it can somehow use fewer LP)
[Resistance: -1 to all nations]

[Jenrak]

Not really. The downsides to the National Service ability are doubling the individual WVP card's bounty--I mean Objective Points awarded to the opponent--and the fact that it doesn't stack with one of the card's attack effects. My thought is that National Service can be activated once per card, given the risks. But when activated, it will always be active.

So "You may use this Ability once per card, per game. If you do, this Ability is always in effect"?

both Safe Zones

Ahh, you're right. I didn't mean that to be the case. Let's try this again:

Let's redo this:

[Nation Name]Jormengand [Health*] 5 [Type*] Military
[Ability Name and Effect] Bait force: Forces the target enemy (Must be used on an enemy!) nation to immediately use their ability. If their ability is targeted, the controlling player of the target may target the ability at any valid target. (Allows baited nation to decide target) If the ability is not valid at this time, it cannot be the targt of bait force. Bait force is used at any time, even out of sequence, so long as the target ability can also be used out of sequence.
[Attack Damage*] ? [Attack Name*]●●●● Logistical raid
[Attack Effect / Condition]Jormengand loses all logistic points, and the target nation takes 2 damage, plus 1 damage (Changed damage formula) for each logistics point Jormengand lost. (Can no longer take enemy logistics points on kill)
[Attack2 Damage] ? [Attack2 Name]●●●● Interception
[Attack2 Effect / Condition] All active cards (No longer affects safe zone cards, nor was it ever intended to) lose all logistics points, and take 2 damage for each that they lost. (Kills Jormengand, unless its health is buffed to at least 8 or it can somehow use fewer LP)
[Resistance: -1 to all nations]

Alright, Interception sounds more reasonable.

Bait force sounds like a semi-counterspell. Was it intended to?

[TaQud]

[Nation Name*]TaQud
[Health*]8
[Type*]Political
[Ability Name and Effect]Copyright Act: Prevents two cards of the same card to be used in the safe zone or attack nations.
[Attack Damage*]2
[Attack Name*]Advertisements
[Attack Effect / Condition]The lower the health of this card... the more powerful it gets. (Health: 8 Power 1, Health: 7 Power 2, Health: 6 Power 3, Health 5: Power 4, Health: 4 Power 5, Health: 3 Power 6, Health: 2 Power 7, Health: 1 Power 8 )
[Resistance]-1 military

is this okay?

[Jenrak]

Attack costs?

[Jormengand]

Health: 1 Power 9

That will 1HKO just about anything, save something with 8 hp and 2 resistance.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

That's pretty much it.

[TaQud]

Health: 1 Power 9

That will 1HKO just about anything, save something with 8 hp and 2 resistance.

Fine I'll edit.

@Jenrak: What are the available options?

[Jormengand]

Bait force sounds like a semi-counterspell. Was it intended to?

It was designed to be one of two things:
"Ha, you just used an ability that damages you/heals me/whatever."
"Ha, you just used your one shot ability that heals you to full health, when you were on full health."

[TaQud]

Can I say the attack cost 1 (whatever it is)?

[Vassel]

Bait force sounds like a semi-counterspell. Was it intended to?

It was designed to be one of two things:
"Ha, you just used an ability that damages you/heals me/whatever."
"Ha, you just used your one shot ability that heals you to full health, when you were on full health."

That sounds like a double-edged sword.

[Jormengand]

It was designed to be one of two things:
"Ha, you just used an ability that damages you/heals me/whatever."
"Ha, you just used your one shot ability that heals you to full health, when you were on full health."

That sounds like a double-edged sword.

Well, it's meant to be used to make the enemy use their abilities at totally inappropriate times. This will generally mean that they have a reduced effect.

[Vassel]

That sounds like a double-edged sword.

Well, it's meant to be used to make the enemy use their abilities at totally inappropriate times. This will generally mean that they have a reduced effect.

Still,the effect of Bait Force can either be good for you or be your own demise.

[Jormengand]

Well, it's meant to be used to make the enemy use their abilities at totally inappropriate times. This will generally mean that they have a reduced effect.

Still,the effect of Bait Force can either be good for you or be your own demise.

Maybe, given that it does also let the enemy use a card effect out of sequence. However, a good player will be able to use it in a way that won't backfire.

[Generex]

Generex [5] [P]
[Diversity: If Generex would be destroyed, you may transfer the remaining health of Generex to other nations you control.]
[2] [State Strike]
[X This attack ignores resistances. If Generex has 2 or less health left, deal 1 damage to Generex]
[2+] [Rim Artillary]
[X This attack deals 2 damage plus 1 more damage for each logistic point you have on this card. If this card's current health is less than its original health, subtract the difference from the damage of this attack.]
[-1 Economic Resistance]

How's this?

[TaQud]

[Nation Name*]TaQud
[Health*]8
[Type*]Political
[Ability Name and Effect]Copyright Act: Prevents two cards of the same card to be used in the safe zone or attack nations.
[Attack Damage*]2
[Attack Name*]Advertisements
[Attack Effect / Condition]The lower the health of this card... the more powerful it gets. (Health: 8 Power 1, Health: 7 Power 2, Health: 6 Power 3, Health 5: Power 4, Health: 4 Power 5, Health: 3 Power 6, Health: 2 Power 7, Health: 1 Power 8 )
[Resistance]-1 military

is this okay?

There edited

[Jormengand]

Generex [5] [P]
[Diversity: If Generex would be destroyed, you may transfer the remaining health of Generex to other nations you control.]
[2] [State Strike]
[X This attack ignores resistances. If Generex has 2 or less health left, deal 1 damage to Generex]
[2+] [Rim Artillary]
[X This attack deals 2 damage plus 1 more damage for each logistic point you have on this card. If this card's current health is less than its original health, subtract the difference from the damage of this attack.]
[-1 Economic Resistance]

How's this?

Looks a little underpowered, but good. That's just my personal opinion though.

[Vetalia]

[Vetalia*] [5*] [Economic*]

All Vetalia abilities can be played while the nation is in the safe zone

[Predatory Lending: Add two logistic points to your pool this turn. Next turn, you receive no logistic points.]

[Bank of Vetalia: Attach any number of logistic points to Vetalia. For every two points attached to Vetalia, you receive an additional logistic point to play per turn. Instead of this action, you may remove logistic points from Vetalia and return them to your pool.]

[Speculative Bubble: Flip a coin. If heads, double the number of logistic points on Vetalia. If tails, remove all logistic points from Vetalia.]

[Flavor Text: The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.- Proverbs 22:7]

[Resistance: Economic -3]
[Weakness: Crimmond, Automagfreek +1 Attacks on Vetalia from these nations inflict an additional damage point]

[Shanix]

Generex [5] [P]
[Diversity: If Generex would be destroyed, you may transfer the remaining health of Generex to other nations you control.]
[2] [State Strike]
[X This attack ignores resistances. If Generex has 2 or less health left, deal 1 damage to Generex]
[2+] [Rim Artillary]
[X This attack deals 2 damage plus 1 more damage for each logistic point you have on this card. If this card's current health is less than its original health, subtract the difference from the damage of this attack.]
[-1 Economic Resistance]

How's this?

Looks a little underpowered, but good. That's just my personal opinion though.

I think it looks fine. Good attacks, with some nice negative effects just in case.