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The Kievan People
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The Kievan People
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Postby The Kievan People » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:25 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:That's misleading Kiev, the armor on the side is a very thick if the penetrator were to hit it at an angle of 65 degrees. At an angle of 0 degrees, it would be very thin. These are all relative values.


Or not.

Vassily Fofanov's T-80U page:
The side hull is 6cm thick rolled steel but the lower side hull around the wheels is probably only 2cm thick
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Postby Zaeus » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:09 am

Due to the jungle environment of Zaeus, tanks have not been heavily used in the past, but we are currently revamping our military to add some new designs.

First, there is this:
Image

The final design will look pretty much like this, except there will be extra wheels pointing out the side in the front; this will allow the front part to fold in for tighter spaces, without losing any mobility. The rocket launchers in the back will also be able to fold in. It will be fast and very maneuverable, though the downside will be less armor.

Then there is this:
http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/concep ... gey_04.jpg

They have much thicker armor and will still be incredibly fast, but they won't be nearly as well-armed as the above tank.

A better armed and armored version will be this, whic can also serve as a troop carrier:
http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/concep ... gey_02.jpg

Finally, we have this, which will be our heavy tank:
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:46 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:few changes to the art:
(Image)
Also: the hull MG has been removed and a coaxial has taken its place, although hopefully the vehicle shouldn't be in a position where it needs to use it.
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Weight: 75 tonnes
Length: 8m, 12.75m with barrel (does not include additional fuel tanks at the rear)
Width: 4m
Height: 2.55m (MG not included)
Crew: 5 (commander, gunner, two loaders, driver)

Main armament: 105mm L70 rifled gun
Secondary armament: Coaxial and cupola mounted .50 MGs
Engine: 12 cylinder, 750hp
Range: 150km, 300km with external tanks
Max speed: 32km/h (road)

What's the previous art?
Also, I suggest a crew allocation of:
(commander, gunner, loader, loader/radio operator, driver)
The Kievan People wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:That's misleading Kiev, the armor on the side is a very thick if the penetrator were to hit it at an angle of 65 degrees. At an angle of 0 degrees, it would be very thin. These are all relative values.


Or not.

Vassily Fofanov's T-80U page:
The side hull is 6cm thick rolled steel but the lower side hull around the wheels is probably only 2cm thick

How thick are the road wheels?
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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:09 pm

Not particularly, they are meant to be as light weight as possible. They provide some good standoff though. But on a T-80/T-84 the only thing the road wheels would actually cover are the passengers feet and the drivers ass.

The Soviets were quite ruthless when they optimized the protection schemes of the T-64/T-72/T-80. All the armor is concentrated across the traditional arc, and this is a big part of why they can maintain relatively high protection at such light weights, but it is no help if you want to convert the vehicle into something other than a tank. The other surfaces are about as well protected as they were on tanks in WWII.
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Postby The National Socialist Philippines » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:41 pm

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:48 pm

The National Socialist Philippines wrote:(Image)
Landkreuzer Ratte Mk.IV

How are you going to deploy a Ratte in the Philippines?
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:47 pm

Quick! I need a lolz-y prototype that will fail hard but teach us some technology about turrets.
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Postby Anemos Major » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:53 pm

Oaledonia wrote:Quick! I need a lolz-y prototype that will fail hard but teach us some technology about turrets.


AMX-50?

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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:56 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Quick! I need a lolz-y prototype that will fail hard but teach us some technology about turrets.


AMX-50?

AMX-50 8)

Besides, my nation really likes oscillating turrets, I'm still trying to find some PMT excuse to fix the NBC problem, but I'll work it out.
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Postby Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:55 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
AMX-50?

AMX-50 8)

Besides, my nation really likes oscillating turrets, I'm still trying to find some PMT excuse to fix the NBC problem, but I'll work it out.


Irl is waaaaaay, ahead of you.
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Postby Voldoviana » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:57 pm

A quick 3D render of my nation's primary Infantry Fighting Vehicle, the GAFV-II.

Armor: Between 60mm and 5mm, ERA applique available, Quick Kill(tm) system available
Armament: 105mm Rheinmetall Cannon, M242 25mm Chaingun, either M2 HMG or TOW-2 ATGM
Crew: 3 Crewmen, 8 Passengers

Picture Here

Criticism welcome on my shitty BMP-3-has-sex-with-a-Patria design. Stupid bloody tracks...

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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:09 pm

Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:AMX-50 8)

Besides, my nation really likes oscillating turrets, I'm still trying to find some PMT excuse to fix the NBC problem, but I'll work it out.


Irl is waaaaaay, ahead of you.

The Kuerassier, gotta love it.
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Postby The National Socialist Philippines » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:40 pm

Marsisian wrote:
The National Socialist Philippines wrote:(Image)
Landkreuzer Ratte Mk.IV

How are you going to deploy a Ratte in the Philippines?

We are an Empire..We deploy it in India or other South East Asian nations
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:43 pm

The National Socialist Philippines wrote:
Marsisian wrote:How are you going to deploy a Ratte in the Philippines?

We are an Empire..We deploy it in India or other South East Asian nations


Where, due to the weight and multiple main guns, it'll fail just as hard as it would in the Philippines.
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Postby The National Socialist Philippines » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:55 pm

Lamoni wrote:
The National Socialist Philippines wrote:We are an Empire..We deploy it in India or other South East Asian nations


Where, due to the weight and multiple main guns, it'll fail just as hard as it would in the Philippines.

I surrender :bow:
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:06 pm

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=131818#p131818

Something like this would work much better for you.
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:09 pm

Lamoni wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=131818#p131818

Something like this would work much better for you.

Any chance you can to boost sales, eh? :lol2:
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:41 pm

Voldoviana wrote:A quick 3D render of my nation's primary Infantry Fighting Vehicle, the GAFV-II.

Armor: Between 60mm and 5mm, ERA applique available, Quick Kill(tm) system available
Armament: 105mm Rheinmetall Cannon, M242 25mm Chaingun, either M2 HMG or TOW-2 ATGM
Crew: 3 Crewmen, 8 Passengers

Picture Here

Criticism welcome on my shitty BMP-3-has-sex-with-a-Patria design. Stupid bloody tracks...

Looks good, needs additional detailing.
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Postby The Ashkenazi » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:48 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Lamoni wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=131818#p131818

Something like this would work much better for you.

Any chance you can to boost sales, eh? :lol2:

It might be shameless self-promotion, but he's right. And the LY7 is one of the better (read: more realistic, less overpowered) MBTs on NS, and has been for a while.

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Postby Lamoni » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:36 pm

The Ashkenazi wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Any chance you can to boost sales, eh? :lol2:

It might be shameless self-promotion, but he's right. And the LY7 is one of the better (read: more realistic, less overpowered) MBTs on NS, and has been for a while.


The Ashkenazi is quite right.
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Postby The Ashkenazi » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:44 pm

Lamoni wrote:The Ashkenazi is quite right.

Now that was just shameless self promotion. :p

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Postby Lamoni » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:53 am

The Ashkenazi wrote:
Lamoni wrote:The Ashkenazi is quite right.

Now that was just shameless self promotion. :p


Maybe. ;) But what you said was exactly right.
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Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."


Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.


Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.

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Postby The National Socialist Philippines » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:16 am

I already bought those from Lyras
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Postby Irabaq » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:37 pm

I've been thinking about using something like this:

http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/1 ... k_T-48.jpg

Would something like that be viable nowadays? If so, can I find something similar with reactive armor?

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Postby The Ashkenazi » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:52 pm

Irabaq wrote:I've been thinking about using something like this:

http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/1 ... k_T-48.jpg

Would something like that be viable nowadays? If so, can I find something similar with reactive armor?

It looks sexy, but I don't believe it's a real vehicle. This allows you to fudge some stats, and make it viable on the modern battlefield.

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