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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:33 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:I don't know if it'd help, but I'm around A&F.
Actually, I can help by putting the NSG Senate as a sponsor on he literary magazine. For that to have any effect, though, you'd have to wait about two months until we publish again (since sponsors are recorded at the back of each issue).

On the dispatch, we should definitely come to a consensus on what we're doing before it's posted, and on that note I feel we should have an organized discussion on it. Now, I'm not sure how organized you're interested in getting, but my thoughts were:
-Official thread, at first limited to someone for Blank Slate, TLT for Vestmark, someone for Adrius, and myself for the UN.
-First four pages (some number of pages) is given for debate.
-Debate follows a speaker's list. A motion can be made for an unmoderated caucus for a specific number of posts or pages, in which there is no limitation on posting for those involved in the debate. The moderator of the debate would rule that in order or dilatory.
-Once the page number expires, voting commences for a long period of time to get as many people voting as possible.

Definitely a good idea, having the NSGS sponsor your magazine. Also, I volunteer doing Adrius, being the main crusader.
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Postby Jumalariik » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:34 pm

What is the consensus at the moment on the future of NSGS?
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Postby New Zepuha » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:08 pm

Jumalariik wrote:What is the consensus at the moment on the future of NSGS?

That it is generally unclear, and will need a good break before we are ready to start again.
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Postby The Union of the West » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:35 pm

Jumalariik wrote:What is the consensus at the moment on the future of NSGS?

The consensus is that we will reboot the Senate. Beyond that, we all haven't really agreed on anything.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:02 am

The New World Oceania wrote:I don't know if it'd help, but I'm around A&F.
Actually, I can help by putting the NSG Senate as a sponsor on he literary magazine. For that to have any effect, though, you'd have to wait about two months until we publish again (since sponsors are recorded at the back of each issue).

On the dispatch, we should definitely come to a consensus on what we're doing before it's posted, and on that note I feel we should have an organized discussion on it. Now, I'm not sure how organized you're interested in getting, but my thoughts were:
-Official thread, at first limited to someone for Blank Slate, TLT for Vestmark, someone for Adrius, and myself for the UN.
-First four pages (some number of pages) is given for debate.
-Debate follows a speaker's list. A motion can be made for an unmoderated caucus for a specific number of posts or pages, in which there is no limitation on posting for those involved in the debate. The moderator of the debate would rule that in order or dilatory.
-Once the page number expires, voting commences for a long period of time to get as many people voting as possible.


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Postby Britanno » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:07 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Whenever you're ready, I am too.

Feel free to go write your own dispatch if you like.

I'll carry on with mine, you know, the one that isn't authored by a group of self-appointed delegates.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:30 pm

Britanno wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Whenever you're ready, I am too.

Feel free to go write your own dispatch if you like.

I'll carry on with mine, you know, the one that isn't authored by a group of self-appointed delegates.


No one has suggested anything for the dispatch. Don't assume all our motives are against you.

On your tossing around of "self-appointed delegates," this is our self-appointed formal apology we didn't pray for confirmation of these positions as headrunners of our ideas.
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Postby Malgrave » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:32 pm

Can someone remind me of all the proposals on the table?
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Postby Britanno » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:41 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:No one has suggested anything for the dispatch. Don't assume all our motives are against you.

This looks like a suggestion to me.

On your tossing around of "self-appointed delegates," this is our self-appointed formal apology we didn't pray for confirmation of these positions as headrunners of our ideas.

You literally just said that there should be some representatives. You then appointed yourself, LT appointed himself and Atlantica appointed himself.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:42 pm

Malgrave wrote:Can someone remind me of all the proposals on the table?


Adrius: Carribean island or Indian Ocean
Aurentina: self-explanatory
Blank Slate: unplanned evolution
United Nations: parties replaced with nations
Vestmark: Netherlands-ish
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Postby Britanno » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:44 pm

Malgrave wrote:Can someone remind me of all the proposals on the table?

Vestmark: North Sea, UK/Netherlands.
Andrius: Caribbean island.
UN: We play nations.
Blank slate: We start over with little planning like we did with Aurentina.
Aurentina: Revisit the hellhole.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:44 pm

Britanno wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:No one has suggested anything for the dispatch. Don't assume all our motives are against you.

[url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21695178&sid=c38ff8d8ea4130dfdd3c0b9fe499e504#p21695178[/url]This looks like a suggestion to me.[/url]


No, it looks like a suggestion for deciding on which choice we go with. It suggests a thread. I'm not exaggerating; it makes no suggestion for your goddamned dispatch.

On your tossing around of "self-appointed delegates," this is our self-appointed formal apology we didn't pray for confirmation of these positions as headrunners of our ideas.

You literally just said that there should be some representatives. You then appointed yourself, LT appointed himself and Atlantica appointed himself.


Well for Christ's sake TLT and I developed our ideas and made threads for them and if other supporters are fine with Atlantica are fine with him doing it I see no reason to deny him of the position.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:49 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Britanno wrote:[url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21695178&sid=c38ff8d8ea4130dfdd3c0b9fe499e504#p21695178[/url]This looks like a suggestion to me.[/url]


No, it looks like a suggestion for deciding on which choice we go with. It suggests a thread. I'm not exaggerating; it makes no suggestion for your goddamned dispatch.

You literally just said that there should be some representatives. You then appointed yourself, LT appointed himself and Atlantica appointed himself.


Well for Christ's sake TLT and I developed our ideas and made threads for them and if other supporters are fine with Atlantica are fine with him doing it I see no reason to deny him of the position.


You missed the fucking point. There are no positions, everyone is equal in this debate. That means no self appointed cabal to debate amongst yourselves.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:10 pm

All I merely see Vestmark is as a lobbyist group. I am in no way forcing my ideas upon others, I am merely drawing up something that I hope will catch attention and be brought as a possible idea for a nation and structure. Everyone has the equal ability to join in and help me or not, or to organize in the same manner.

Also, Vestmark has turned out to be less Dutch and more Frisian, as if the Fries had their own country in the North Sea that wasn't apart of Holland. Otherwise, the British influence is limited to colonialism, like Ireland, and the Norwegian influence is heavy in their language and culture as a relic from the medieval ages.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:32 pm

Aurentina: Revisit the hellhole.


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Postby The New World Oceania » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:35 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:You missed the fucking point. There are no positions. That means no self appointed cabal to debate amongst yourselves.


The New World Oceania wrote:I don't know if it'd help, but ... I'm not sure how organized you're interested in getting, but my thoughts were:
-Official thread, at first limited to someone for Blank Slate, TLT for Vestmark, someone for Adrius, and myself for the UN.


As everyone can see, Nihil's hostility is justified per my conspiratorial attempts to force everyone except the elite into silence.
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I propose myself as admin.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:36 am

CTALNH wrote:I propose myself as admin.


Let's get rid of the current admins and replace them with CTALNH, RSSS, Kam, and Drago.
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Postby Ainin » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:43 am

The New World Oceania wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I propose myself as admin.


Let's get rid of the current admins and replace them with CTALNH, RSSS, Kam, and Drago.

Yeah! Oh wait...
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Postby New Bierstaat » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:56 am

The New World Oceania wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I propose myself as admin.


Let's get rid of the current admins and replace them with CTALNH, RSSS, Kam, and Drago.

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