NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 4

[Kamchastkia]

...in an awful location.

Where do you want it then? Most Israelis considered the region of Palestine as their own lands, the original Zionists called for immigration to that area.

I consider All of Canada as my land, this entitles me to invade, create mass graves, force canadians out of their homes, and into Prince Edward Island, where they live, constantly harrassed by my soldiers, and the moment they decide to do something about it I can call them terrorists?

[The Nihilistic view]

Yes I agree, whilst I have sympathy with Palestine their reaction to the situation is not the best. It just gives Israel an excuse to carry on. The real culprits though are the idiots that created israel in the first place. We should (the BE) have just given the whole area to the Arabs as promised in 1918-21 peace treaty's.

The State of Israel was created because of the sorrows over the Holocaust.

The Empire administered it as the British mandate in Palestine till then, they should have kept their promise. The Holocaust does not give Israel a right to beat up the Palestinians and take their land. In some respects they act like the Nazi's, after suffering all of that you would think they would be a little more caring and accommodating to their fellow humans.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Marcus added, "I disapprove of Israeli efforts to colonize the Palestinian territories and disrupt Palestinian freedom of movement, and choke their economy while ignoring attacks by the ultranationalist settlers on local Palestinians, then distract us by complaining about Iran and nuclear weapons."
He paused for air, then continued, "Furthermore, I believe that Israel has the right to exist. I also believe that the Palestinians have a right to their own state. But for that to happen, the "Judea and Samaria area" must be decolonized. The Israelis must take down some of the walls and agree to the 1967 borders. They must also abandon their obsession with securing themselves from invasion. They can, and shall continue to be able to, defend themselves against invasion by their neighbors."
He sat down.

[New Zepuha]

-snip- Best not to argue with him

[The United Colonies of Earth]

The State of Israel was created because of the sorrows over the Holocaust.

The Empire administered it as the British mandate in Palestine till then, they should have kept their promise. The Holocaust does not give Israel a right to beat up the Palestinians and take their land. In some respects they act like the Nazi's, after suffering all of that you would think they would be a little more caring and accommodating to their fellow humans.

Their hearts and minds are permanently scarred from those horrors.

[The Nihilistic view]

Where do you want it then? Most Israelis considered the region of Palestine as their own lands, the original Zionists called for immigration to that area.

I consider All of Canada as my land, this entitles me to invade, create mass graves, force canadians out of their homes, and into Prince Edward Island, where they live, constantly harrassed by my soldiers, and the moment they decide to do something about it I can call them terrorists?

hear him, hear him!! I totally support your claim.


Yes I do agree with the general point you are making.

[New Zepuha]

Well I tell ya what, no one receives our support and we take a neutral stance.

[The Saint James Islands]

I consider All of Canada as my land, this entitles me to invade, create mass graves, force canadians out of their homes, and into Prince Edward Island, where they live, constantly harrassed by my soldiers, and the moment they decide to do something about it I can call them terrorists?

hear him, hear him!! I totally support your claim.


Yes I do agree with the general point you are making.

For once I actually agree with Kam. Hell hath officially frozen over.

[The Saint James Islands]

Well I tell ya what, no one receives our support and we take a neutral stance.

This is acceptable.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Well I tell ya what, no one receives our support and we take a neutral stance.

Alright.

[New Zepuha]

Well I tell ya what, no one receives our support and we take a neutral stance.

Alright.

Because honestly, both sides are acting like children over this.

[Costa Alegria]

Why are we talking about Israel when there are perfectly legitimate states in East Asia that we can trade and establish relations with?

[Ainin]

Well I tell ya what, no one receives our support and we take a neutral stance.

Will this include not recognising illegitimate Israeli claims over the Palestinian territories?

[New Zepuha]

Well I tell ya what, no one receives our support and we take a neutral stance.

Will this include not recognising illegitimate Israeli claims over the Palestinian territories?

I won't recognize anything about nothin'. This is their matter to sort out.

[The Nihilistic view]

The Empire administered it as the British mandate in Palestine till then, they should have kept their promise. The Holocaust does not give Israel a right to beat up the Palestinians and take their land. In some respects they act like the Nazi's, after suffering all of that you would think they would be a little more caring and accommodating to their fellow humans.

Their hearts and minds are permanently scarred from those horrors.

Most Israelis were not even born then and of those that are many came from the US. They don't have that excuse, it was not those individuals that now invade (cos lets face it that's what it is) Palestine and built homes that were wronged. It was not the Palestinians that ran the gas chambers of the east, it was not the Palestinians that made up the Einsatzgruppen. There were no Palestinians at the infamous Wannsee Conference. They were just happily living in Palestine.

Taking it out on them due to a work of fiction is totally out of order.

EDIT: By work of fiction I mean the Jewish Bible not the Holocaust.

[Kamchastkia]

Alright.

Because honestly, both sides are acting like children over this.

On one side there's fighter jets, on the other there's stones.

On one side there's slaves, on the other the throne.

On one side there's sea, on the other there's sand.

On one side they eat fruit, on the other they eat sand.

On one side there's wealth, on the other side they're poor.

Who's the oppressor, and who's the oppressed, it's easy to see.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Alright.

Because honestly, both sides are acting like children over this.

I wasn't paying attention to their childishness. Butif you sayso, I'll take it.

[Ainin]

Will this include not recognising illegitimate Israeli claims over the Palestinian territories?

I won't recognize anything about nothin'. This is their matter to sort out.

So is that a "yes"?

[Bleckonia]

Why don't we recognize the 1994 Oslo Accords borders and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation and the Palestinian Authority as a autonomous subnational unit? I see it as a good compromise.

[New Zepuha]

I won't recognize anything about nothin'. This is their matter to sort out.

So is that a "yes"?

Affirmative.

[Corenea]

I won't recognize anything about nothin'. This is their matter to sort out.

So is that a "yes"?

Can we also condemn the terrorist action by Palestinian extremists against civilian populations as well?

[Ainin]

I withdraw the motion.

[Unicario]

Yes I agree, whilst I have sympathy with Palestine their reaction to the situation is not the best. It just gives Israel an excuse to carry on. The real culprits though are the idiots that created israel in the first place. We should (the BE) have just given the whole area to the Arabs as promised in 1918-21 peace treaty's.

The State of Israel was created because of the sorrows over the Holocaust.

The Jews were wronged yes, but that does not mean they had the right to expel a group of people from their land that they had for years. By doing that, they have proven themselves no more considerate of human rights and the natives of the land they have invaded than the Nazis were against their own kin.

Israel is no more than a state of terrorists and demented radical Jews who are seeking to establish some theocratic empire in the middle east.

[Kamchastkia]

Why don't we recognize the 1994 Oslo Accords borders and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation and the Palestinian Authority as a autonomous subnational unit? I see it as a good compromise.

Subjugating the oppressed to the oppressor solves nothing, complete independence is the only way to put an end to it, and Israel will never willingly do this, so the only means to end the madness of it all is resistance.

[Costa Alegria]

Israel is no more than a state of terrorists and demented radical Jews who are seeking to establish some theocratic empire in the middle east.

Alex Jones is not a credible person.