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Postby Yanalia » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:55 pm

Lamaredia wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Oh I see. You can not fight with facts and go with if you do not do this we will impeach you? Wow. Really good from your side. Shows the true colors.

Wasn't planning on impeaching you. I was actually just wondering if the process was in place, or if a law was needed written about it. Stop presuming, and saying "Shows the true colors" is an attack against my honesty and integrity, and I ask you to withdraw it.


If you're curious, the Senate may vote to remove one Minister per term.
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Postby Lamaredia » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:56 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:Wasn't planning on impeaching you. I was actually just wondering if the process was in place, or if a law was needed written about it. Stop presuming, and saying "Shows the true colors" is an attack against my honesty and integrity, and I ask you to withdraw it.


If you're curious, the Senate may vote to remove one Minister per term.

Thank you for your answer.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:58 pm

Lamaredia wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Oh I see. You can not fight with facts and go with if you do not do this we will impeach you? Wow. Really good from your side. Shows the true colors.

Wasn't planning on impeaching you. I was actually just wondering if the process was in place, or if a law was needed written about it. Stop presuming, and saying "Shows the true colors" is an attack against my honesty and integrity, and I ask you to withdraw it.

There is. A no confidence vote. An impeachment is done against the president. Consider it withdrawn.
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Postby Lamaredia » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:58 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:Wasn't planning on impeaching you. I was actually just wondering if the process was in place, or if a law was needed written about it. Stop presuming, and saying "Shows the true colors" is an attack against my honesty and integrity, and I ask you to withdraw it.

There is. A no confidence vote. An impeachment is done against the president. Consider it withdrawn.

Thank you for withdrawing.
EDIT: You should probably edit your post mate.
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Postby Ainin » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:01 pm

On an unrelated note, the Russian Federation Council needs to get a newer vote tally board. Who still uses green-and-black LED signs? >.>
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:03 pm

Lamaredia wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:There is. A no confidence vote. An impeachment is done against the president. Consider it withdrawn.

Thank you for withdrawing.
EDIT: You should probably edit your post mate.

Done. Do the same.
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Postby Lamaredia » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:04 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:Thank you for withdrawing.
EDIT: You should probably edit your post mate.

Done. Do the same.

I did.
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Postby Yanalia » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:08 pm

Ainin wrote:On an unrelated note, the Russian Federation Council needs to get a newer vote tally board. Who still uses green-and-black LED signs? >.>


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Postby Geilinor » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:42 pm

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Ainin wrote:On an unrelated note, the Russian Federation Council needs to get a newer vote tally board. Who still uses green-and-black LED signs? >.>


Modern technology is tool of Western imperialists!

Putin: "Our LED signs are proudly unchanged since the USSR."
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:32 pm

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New Bierstaat wrote:If I were president of the United States, I would have ordered sanctions on Russia. But we in Aurentina don't have the power to do anything with sanctions except piss people off. Russia's economy would hardly be hurt by the freezing of their citizens' (non-existent) holdings in Aurentine banks.

Believe me, I'm probably more hawkish than 90-95% of you guys, but Russia's too powerful for us to be taking on alone. We should only sanction to a similar extent as the USA and European Union do. However, as long as I'm still president, we will be aligning ourselves as allies of the West and the legitimate government in the Ukraine.


Agreed, though I am somewhat a hawk kind of Libertarian out of the party. If we are going to sanction them we should target valuable assets.

I'm more or less of the same opinion, though slightly less hawkish than I normally am in these cases. This is because I fear another land war in Europe (Seriously? Wasn't twice enough, Europe?), and because I'm now old enough to be drafted and I really don't want to die in a fox hole in the Crimea. Other than that, long live Ukraine!

Out of morbid interest, where in the que is my new railways act? At the very bottom, I suppose?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:07 am

Ainin wrote:On an unrelated note, the Russian Federation Council needs to get a newer vote tally board. Who still uses green-and-black LED signs? >.>


You think that's old fashioned? The Glorious House of Commons, Boards? What boards.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:19 am

The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Agreed, though I am somewhat a hawk kind of Libertarian out of the party. If we are going to sanction them we should target valuable assets.

I'm more or less of the same opinion, though slightly less hawkish than I normally am in these cases. This is because I fear another land war in Europe (Seriously? Wasn't twice enough, Europe?), and because I'm now old enough to be drafted and I really don't want to die in a fox hole in the Crimea. Other than that, long live Ukraine!

Out of morbid interest, where in the que is my new railways act? At the very bottom, I suppose?

We just need to wait until next year (when I turn 26 and can no longer be drafted). Then we can have all the wars we want.
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Postby Oneracon » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:24 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ainin wrote:On an unrelated note, the Russian Federation Council needs to get a newer vote tally board. Who still uses green-and-black LED signs? >.>


You think that's old fashioned? The Glorious House of Commons, Boards? What boards.

Ah, the pomp and circumstance of Westminster parliamentary democracies. Canada has the same thing.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:33 am

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
You think that's old fashioned? The Glorious House of Commons, Boards? What boards.

Ah, the pomp and circumstance of Westminster parliamentary democracies. Canada has the same thing.


I'm thinking we should adopt this method, The Left side of the corridor outside will be the Yay side and the Right side the Noes.

Maybe we should name them as well? Left side will be called the "Yes man corridor" and the Right side "Naysayer passage".

So instead of putting "Yay" when in favour of a bill one puts "Standing in Yes man corridor"
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:35 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Ah, the pomp and circumstance of Westminster parliamentary democracies. Canada has the same thing.


I'm thinking we should adopt this method, The Left side of the corridor outside will be the Yay side and the Right side the Noes.

Maybe we should name them as well? Left side will be called the "Yes man corridor" and the Right side "Naysayer passage".

So instead of putting "Yay" when in favour of a bill one puts "Standing in Yes man corridor"

No thank you. I am more then pleased this way.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:37 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
I'm thinking we should adopt this method, The Left side of the corridor outside will be the Yay side and the Right side the Noes.

Maybe we should name them as well? Left side will be called the "Yes man corridor" and the Right side "Naysayer passage".

So instead of putting "Yay" when in favour of a bill one puts "Standing in Yes man corridor"

No thank you. I am more then pleased this way.


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Postby New Zepuha » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am

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Criminal Negligence Act


| Author: New Zepuha [ALM] | Sponsors: The Neo-Confederate States of America [ANL], Oneracon [RG], Ganja-Lord Tupac [Ind.], Unicario [RG], Potenco [MSP]| Category: Order | Urgency: Low |




Section 0. Preamble -

Believing that fleeing an area in which a crime or accident has occurred is a great danger to public order. Those who knowingly are involved in a vehicular accident and flee without consulting officials or refusing aide to people they have purposefully ignored, should be punished accordingly. This bill is with intent to ensure the broad safety of motorists.

Section 1. Fleeing the Scene of an Accident -

When a motor vehicle accident has occurred, by any number of vehicles people involved in this crash may not flee the scene without a relevant medical issue that would justify their fleeing. Otherwise, those who know they have been involved in an accident must remain, check the safety of the other motorists [if possible], and contact the relevant authorities. Anyone witnessing said accident and are able to safely pull to the side of the road must stop to aide or contact relevant authorities [chiefly the police and fire department]. Prosecution must be able to prove that someone knowingly fled the scene of an accident.

Section 2. Criminal Offences Relating to Criminal Negligence -

Fleeing The Scene of an Accident - Anyone who knowingly flees the scene of an accident without a pressing need for medical attention, is held liable for the crime of negligence. Such as if car A crashes into the rear of B and the driver of A or B flees the scene. This can be a Delict or Contravention depending on the severity, to be determined by the judges.

This includes complicity in said crime.


Hereby signs into law and passes the Criminal Negligence Act


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[box][align=center][size=150]Criminal Negligence Act[/size]
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| Author: [nation]New Zepuha[/nation] [ALM] | Sponsors: [nation]The Neo-Confederate States of America[/nation] [ANL], [nation]Oneracon[/nation] [RG], [nation]Ganja-Lord Tupac[/nation] [Ind.], [nation]The Scientific States[/nation] [FP] | Category: Order | Urgency: [color=#00BF00]Low[/color] |[/align]
[hr][/hr]

[u][b]Section 0.[/b] [i]Preamble[/i][/u] -

Believing that fleeing an area in which a crime or accident has occurred is a great danger to public order. Those who knowingly are involved in a vehicular accident and flee without consulting officials or refusing aide to people they have purposefully ignored, should be punished accordingly. This bill is with intent to ensure the broad safety of motorists.

[u][b]Section 1.[/b] [i]Fleeing the Scene of an Accident[/i][/u] -

When a motor vehicle accident has occurred, by any number of vehicles people involved in this crash may not flee the scene without a relevant medical issue that would justify their fleeing. Otherwise, those who know they have been involved in an accident must remain, check the safety of the other motorists [if possible], and contact the relevant authorities. Anyone witnessing said accident and are able to safely pull to the side of the road must stop to aide or contact relevant authorities [chiefly the police and fire department]. Prosecution must be able to prove that someone knowingly fled the scene of an accident.

[u][b]Section 2.[/b] [i]Criminal Offences Relating to Criminal Negligence [/i][/u] -

[u]Fleeing The Scene of an Accident[/u] - Anyone who knowingly flees the scene of an accident without a pressing need for medical attention, is held liable for the crime of negligence. Such as if car A crashes into the rear of B and the driver of A or B flees the scene. This can be a Delict or Contravention depending on the severity, to be determined by the judges.

[u]This includes complicity in said crime.[/u]
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Hereby signs into law and passes the Criminal Negligence Act[/box]



Repeal the Public Work Centre Act


| Author: New Zepuha [ALM] | Sponsors: The Nihilistic View [ALM], Corenea [RefP], Zurkerx [LPA], The Scientific States [FP]| Category: Domestic Developement | Urgency: Moderate |




Section 0.
Preamble -

While this act was noble in it's intentions and purpose, it has only served to be a drain on our government funds. To ease the burden on the tax payer it is best that this act be repealed. Though, these work centres will not be abandoned all together. This repeal will lay out a plan to phase out these centres and ensure ones that are interested may stay open. It is this government's goal to lower the debt, and this repeal will be a small drop in the pool.

Section 1. Operative Clause -

1a. The government of Aurentina will no longer be obligated to comply with the PWCA after passing of this bill.
1.1a. All clauses of the PWCA will be struck from the record and rendered null and void.

1b. A transition period of 9 months will be allotted in which established work centres may find alternate sources of funding, or shut down entirely.
1.1a. After 9 months all government funding should cease and Section 1 Clause 1a. will come into full effect.
1.1b. If after 9 months all work centres have not shut down or found alternate funding may petition the government to extend the grace period by 4 months.
1.1.1a. This petition must have the signature of at least 12 senators, 2 of which must be opposition senators.
1.1.1b. This petition may be renewed only 1 more time after the first renewal totaling two renewals of 8 months.

1c. The grace period may not extend past 17 months.

Section 2. Appendix A: Definitions -

Defines the PWCA as the Public Work Centres Act
Defines Grace Period as the time in which the public work centres have to disband or find alternate funding

Hereby signs this bill into law and repeals the PWCA


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[box][align=center][size=150]Repeal the [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=15682906#p15682906]Public Work Centre Act[/url][/size]
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| Author: [nation]New Zepuha[/nation] [ALM] | Sponsors: [nation]The Nihilistic View[/nation] [ALM], [nation]Corenea[/nation] [RefP], [nation]Zurkerx[/nation] [LPA], [nation]The Scientific States[/nation] [FP]| Category: Domestic Developement | Urgency: [color=#FFBF40]Moderate[/color] |[/align]
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[b][i]
[u]Section 0.[/u][/i][/b] [i]Preamble[/i] -

While this act was noble in it's intentions and purpose, it has only served to be a drain on our government funds. To ease the burden on the tax payer it is best that this act be repealed. Though, these work centres will not be abandoned all together. This repeal will lay out a plan to phase out these centres and ensure ones that are interested may stay open. It is this government's goal to lower the debt, and this repeal will be a small drop in the pool.

Section 1. Operative Clause -

1a. The government of Aurentina will no longer be obligated to comply with the PWCA after passing of this bill.
[tab=35]1.1a. All clauses of the PWCA will be struck from the record and rendered null and void.[/tab]

1b. A transition period of 9 months will be allotted in which established work centres may find alternate sources of funding, or shut down entirely.
[tab=35]1.1a. After 9 months all government funding should cease and Section 1 Clause 1a. will come into full effect.[/tab]
[tab=35]1.1b. If after 9 months all work centres have not shut down or found alternate funding may petition the government to extend the grace period by 4 months.[/tab]
[tab=45]1.1.1a.  This petition must have the signature of at least 12 senators, 2 of which must be opposition senators.[/tab]
[tab=45]1.1.1b. This petition may be renewed only 1 more time after the first renewal totaling two renewals of 8 months.[/tab]

1c. The grace period may not extend past 17 months.

Section 2. Appendix A: Definitions -

Defines the PWCA as the Public Work Centres Act
Defines Grace Period as the time in which the public work centres have to disband or find alternate funding

Hereby signs this bill into law and repeals the PWCA[/box]


Add these please.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:29 am

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Zurkerx wrote:Okay, let's try this again. I would like to submit this under Domestic Development.

Re-Innovation of the Broadcasting Act

Urgency: High| Author(s): Zurkerx| Category: Domestic Development

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RECOGNIZING that the Aurentina Television Network Revision Act was passed to sustain the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk.

UNDERSTANDING that the Second Amendment to the Broadcasting Act was passed due to concern of bias advertisement from private companies.

CONCERN that the Second Amendment to the Broadcasting Act significantly cuts funds from the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk.

BELIEVING that less of a burden will not only be put on the Citizens of Aurentina, but the Aurentine Government as well.

REALIZING that the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk can survive through other means of funding.

HEREBY ENACTS the following clauses:

Clause 1- Aurentisë Televisënetwörk will no longer be supported by the Aurentine Government to keep it funded.

Clause 2- The Second Amendment to the Broadcasting Act is hereby null and void in its entirely.

Clause 3- The Aurentisë Televisënetwörk shall become a Commercial Broadcaster.

Clause 4- The Aurentina Television Network Revision Act will still be in affect until the first day of 2016.

THE FOLLOWING is defined:

- A Commercial Broadcaster is a broadcaster by corporate media that broadcasts private television programs and radio programming.

Funding will proceed as the following:

-The Aurentisë Televisënetwörk shall be funded by grants from charities or individuals.

-The Aurentisë Televisënetwörk shall be funded by paid advertisers as well.

IN THE EVENT that the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk has loses on their financial report, the Aurentina Government can underwrite the losses.

-The Aurentina Government cannot underwrite anything else in the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk.

-Underwriting will occur on December 31 of every year, IF there are any loses in the financial report.

THIS BILL shall take affect on January 1, 2016.


Also on the same token, can you add this please as well.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:05 pm

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Why?

Apparently he advertised a rival game like hell on the forums, RMB and TGs.

Oh, I got one of those TGs.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:07 pm

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Lamaredia wrote:Apparently he advertised a rival game like hell on the forums, RMB and TGs.

Oh, I got one of those TGs.


I didn't. Obviously I'm too cool for that.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:51 pm

I officially dissolve the cabinet


Also on a slightly unrelated note I will be posting an end of term budget report as Treasurer in the chamber soon.
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Postby Jetan » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:55 am

Just putting this out here, I would totally have voted for the constitution if I had noticed it was already voted on. :p
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Postby Lamaredia » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:15 am

Nihil, if you win the presidency who would be your candidate for PPT replacement?
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Postby Battlion » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:43 am

Lamaredia wrote:Nihil, if you win the presidency who would be your candidate for PPT replacement?


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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:55 am

Battlion wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:Nihil, if you win the presidency who would be your candidate for PPT replacement?


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