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[Lamaredia]

Read the last page. We just collected signatures to move the Constitution vote up.

I did read the last page. My question is what are we doing next?

The constitution, and after that I believe it's the next category. Can't name which one it is from the top of my head.

[The Nihilistic view]

Read the last page. We just collected signatures to move the Constitution vote up.

I did read the last page. My question is what are we doing next?

I thought you said you read the last page? You should have seen the post below and the posts that were debating it.

Soon though the President will move us to the Constitution bill however.

Resolution Respecting the Illegal Deployment of Forces by the Russian Federation against the Ukraine
Author: Alexander Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS Category: International Relations | Urgency: Utmost
Sponsors: Friedrich von Hohenzollern [RG], Robert Glasgia [MSP, Opp. Leader], Erich Malgrave [MSP]
James Brit [Ind.], Rupert Weinthal [ALM, VP], Emilia Nuckerberg [ALM, MoJ], Joshua Burchett [RG]
Emmanuel Esora [CP], John Geil [NDP]

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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Decrying the flagrant violation of both customary and statutory international law undertaken by the Russian Federation in its illegal deployment of forces in the Ukrainian devolved territory of Crimea,

Noting the Russian Federation's obligations under the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe (Helsinki Declaration) and the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, both of which it has violated with impunity in the past few days,

Urging the government of Aurentina to stand with the people of Ukraine against Russian intimidation,

Hereby enacts the following resolution:

Regarding Diplomatic Missions
This resolution urges the Minister of Foreign Affairs to recall the head Aurentine diplomat currently stationed in the Russian Federation.
The resolution also urges the President of the Aurentine Commonwealth to declare the head of the Russian diplomatic mission in Aurentina persona non granta and to order him to vacate the territory of the Aurentine Commonwealth immediately.

Regarding Finances
This resolution urges and advises the Minister of the Exchequer to order all assets belonging to members of the Russian Federation Council that voted AYE to authorising a military deployment in the Ukraine and to members of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, as well as his, frozen.

Other Repercussions
The resolution advises and urges the Ministers of Justice, the Interior and Defence to cancel any military or law enforcement exercise planned to be held in collaboration with Russian authorities.

Enactment
This resolution is affirmed to be non-binding on the Government of Aurentina.

Current bill up for debate. Counting last two now.

[The State of Czecho-Slovakia]

I humbly submit the following bill to the chamber, and ask that it be added to the que:

First Amendment to the Railways Operations & Regulations Act

Sponsors: New Zepuha, Ainin, Oneracon, The Neo-Confederate States of America, East Ormania
Urgency:High

UNDERSTANDING: that the current Railways Act is fundamentally sound,
NOTES: however that there are portions of the bill which ought for various reasons to be amended,

HEREBY:

1. Repeals Article 1, Subsection J, “All rail lines are to have a 25 KV AC overhead electric rail traction system as standard.”.
2. Adds to Article 1, stating that:
"1L. Creates the National Capital Region (Henceforth NCR) Corridor, consisting of all the railways owned by a government entity in the Leishaagen region.
1m. Mandates that the operation of the NCR Corridor shall be jointly funded by the CTC and Aurail.
1n. Mandates all railways use the Continental standard loading gauge."
3. Adds to Article 3, stating that:
"3e. Requires that all operational Steam Locomotive or Railmotor boilers be inspected and pressure tested for safety once every 10 years and be certified as safe to operate by a Ministry of Transport inspector."
4. Creates an Article 4, "On Safety Inspections", stating:
"4a. Requires that the Ministry of Transport conduct regular inspections of the safety of railway rolling stock, infrastructure, and operating practices.
4b. Grants inspectors from the Ministry of Transport the power to place safe operational limits on rolling stock and infrastructure.
4c. Grants the Ministry of Transport the power bring an injunction against railways with unsafe conditions to prevent their operation until such time those conditions have been rectified."

[New Bierstaat]

Lord Alexander Boris De Pfeffel William Johnson
President Pro-Tempore of the Senate
Senate Chamber
1 Senate Circle
Leishaagen

Mr. President Pro-Tempore:

I have received your request to jump the queue to get to the constitution. As the constitution is an important part of this and every other democratic society, I have decided to grant your request.

We will commence voting on the constitution whenever you're ready. After voting on the constitution, we will begin the 48-hour debate period on the category that was scheduled to be up for debate before the queue jump occurred.


Tom Schmidt
President of Aurentina

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Rupert walked up to the chair "Ah since eh it appears the President pro tempore is not currently here, I guess I'll start the vote. "

[The Nihilistic view]

OOC: I must have missed this. But bringing a bill to the top of the queue does not excuse it debate time.


Regardless there are two ways we can go, either the usual for a single bill or treat it as if it's more than one. This due to is having so many Articles and thus it is perhaps worthy of more debate time, even if it's just to give people time to read it.

[Beta Test]

OOC: I must have missed this. But bringing a bill to the top of the queue does not excuse it debate time.


Regardless there are two ways we can go, either the usual for a single bill or treat it as if it's more than one. This due to is having so many Articles and thus it is perhaps worthy of more debate time, even if it's just to give people time to read it.

"Well since the time for amending the bill ended before it's submission, I don't see the need to do it article by article. Senators should read the bill at their own discretion."

[The Nihilistic view]

OOC: I must have missed this. But bringing a bill to the top of the queue does not excuse it debate time.


Regardless there are two ways we can go, either the usual for a single bill or treat it as if it's more than one. This due to is having so many Articles and thus it is perhaps worthy of more debate time, even if it's just to give people time to read it.

"Well since the time for amending the bill ended before it's submission, I don't see the need to do it article by article. Senators should read the bill at their own discretion."

I just think it's a little much to ask all people (OOCly) to read such a thing in 24 hours, some of these sections were written six months ago. Also if something glaring is found amending is still possible.


Boris connects his I-pod to the speaker system whilst the discussion occurs.

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"Well since the time for amending the bill ended before it's submission, I don't see the need to do it article by article. Senators should read the bill at their own discretion."

I just think it's a little much to ask all people (OOCly) to read such a thing in 24 hours, some of these sections were written six months ago. Also if something glaring is found amending is still possible.


Boris connects his I-pod to the speaker system whilst the discussion occurs.

"Well I'll leave you to make the decision. But this could really stall the Senate agenda doing article by article. "

[The Nihilistic view]

I just think it's a little much to ask all people (OOCly) to read such a thing in 24 hours, some of these sections were written six months ago. Also if something glaring is found amending is still possible.


Boris connects his I-pod to the speaker system whilst the discussion occurs.

"Well I'll leave you to make the decision. But this could really stall the Senate agenda doing article by article. "

I think you misunderstand. I mean have either one bills worth of debate or have a debate time as if it was many bills up for debate. Not do each article separately.

[Britanno]

It is one bill. It should be treated as such.

[Oneracon]

It is one bill. It should be treated as such.

Agreed.

[Pesda]

Regarding the Constitution, am I correct in thinking that a region declaring independence will be unconstitutional? If so, why are we doing that?

[Diopolis]

I vote nay on the constitution.

[Oneracon]

I vote nay on the constitution.

We aren't voting

[Haelunor]

Regarding the Constitution, am I correct in thinking that a region declaring independence will be unconstitutional? If so, why are we doing that?

Because it's just silly to allow regions to declare independence willy-nilly.

[Pesda]

Regarding the Constitution, am I correct in thinking that a region declaring independence will be unconstitutional? If so, why are we doing that?

Because it's just silly to allow regions to declare independence willy-nilly.

Who ever said willy-nilly?

[Dendart]

Will there be a separate thread for the constitution debate

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Will there be a separate thread for the constitution debate

No as much as I know.

[Dendart]

When will debate start

[Britanno]

When will debate start

It has started I think...

[Lamaredia]

I'd rather make it illegal to secede without having a referendum with the population in the area, and then have a regional government vote, and then a proper government vote.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

I'd rather make it illegal to secede without having a referendum with the population in the area, and then have a regional government vote, and then a proper government vote.

No secession what's so ever.

[Haelunor]

Once you start allowing secession, things will spiral ot of control.

[New Zepuha]

I'd rather make it illegal to secede without having a referendum with the population in the area, and then have a regional government vote, and then a proper government vote.

No secession what's so ever.

I like the idea of, if you secede you better damn well win.