NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 4

[Kamchastkia]

. Someone who doesn't understand socialism! More more! I love these people! Tell your parents to make more babies and to raise them to be exactly like you so I can have a good laugh.

I do understand socialism. It seems that you do not understand that socialism is an umbrella-term for several under-ideologies.

You seem to be a petty social-democrat more than anything else.

[Lamaredia]

I do understand socialism. It seems that you do not understand that socialism is an umbrella-term for several under-ideologies.

You seem to be a petty social-democrat more than anything else.

Which, once again, is under the umbrella term that is "Socialism". Try harder, seriously.
EDIT: Petty? Care to explain?

OOC: Indirectly insulting me and my family isn't helping your point.

[Next Washington]

But we do have a budget AND a national bank...

now we have, but is there a guarantee we have one in the future?

EDIT: Also, refer to the Senator Grammar bill that was passed a few months back. This bill makes me cringe at some points.

my grammar may not suit this act, but you get my intention, or is there a part in it you don't understand?

[Next Washington]

overregulation, not really needed in my eyes

Over-regulation?

Creating an accident investigation agency and mandating event data recorders is over-regulation?

Event-data recorders are essential tools for investigators, without which their jobs are extremely hard and investigations are often left without conclusive results. The government has an interest in public safety, and it's our duty to investigate and remedy fatal problems with vehicles, to save lives.

And if you think an accident investigation agency is "overregulation", then we have a problem here.

there's a police, many cars have recorders, and every car company can help you investigate at their models

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

Ahahah.... no. Any good self-respecting would realize that firearms only cause death and despair and attribute nothing to society (except for hunting). You, my dear sir, are a radical. You are not a socialist, you are a revolutionist.

. Someone who doesn't understand socialism! More more! I love these people! Tell your parents to make more babies and to raise them to be exactly like you so I can have a good laugh.

"ORDER, ORDER!

Taras Ignatiev, that is not the sort of behavior anybody wishes to see in the chamber towards another senator. Please keep things civil."

[Lamaredia]

But we do have a budget AND a national bank...

now we have, but is there a guarantee we have one in the future?

Once the bill that prohibits an opposition budget, and causes the budget to pass into effect passes, yes we do.

EDIT: Also, refer to the Senator Grammar bill that was passed a few months back. This bill makes me cringe at some points.

my grammar may not suit this act, but you get my intention, or is there a part in it you don't understand?

Intention =/= what matters. There is literally a law on this, read it.

[Kamchastkia]

. Someone who doesn't understand socialism! More more! I love these people! Tell your parents to make more babies and to raise them to be exactly like you so I can have a good laugh.

"ORDER, ORDER!

Taras Ignatiev, that is not the sort of behavior anybody wishes to see in the chamber towards another senator. Please keep things civil."

Oh boy! Another one of nihil's accounts to block!

[Britanno]

Lamaredia, maybe instead of having a go at NW because his first language is not English and his punctuation may be a but off at times, you could help correct his mistakes?

[Lamaredia]

"ORDER, ORDER!

Taras Ignatiev, that is not the sort of behavior anybody wishes to see in the chamber towards another senator. Please keep things civil."

Oh boy! Another one of nihil's accounts to block!

Are you seriously blocking the SPPT?

[Lamaredia]

Lamaredia, maybe instead of having a go at NW because his first language is not English and his punctuation may be a but off at times, you could help correct his mistakes?

They should have been corrected before the bill was even submitted. Send it back into the coffee house.

[Minarchist States]

Socialism is merely the democratization of the workplace. I don't think guns define it, just like weed doesn't define the LPUSA.

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

"ORDER, ORDER!

Taras Ignatiev, that is not the sort of behavior anybody wishes to see in the chamber towards another senator. Please keep things civil."

Oh boy! Another one of nihil's accounts to block!

"If you wish to insult Charles's family kindly do it outside the chamber alone, a proper debate is going on here that senators such as Charles wish to partake in and they should not have to do it under a barrage of insults."

OOC: Don't mix up IC and OOC, I have addressed you as Taras therefor Nihil does not exist.

[Kamchastkia]

Oh boy! Another one of nihil's accounts to block!

"If you wish to insult Charles's family kindly do it outside the chamber alone, a proper debate is going on here that senators such as Charles wish to partake in and they should not have to do it under a barrage of insults."

OOC: Don't mix up IC and OOC, I have addressed you as Taras therefor Nihil does not exist.

I don't give 1 fuck about the divide between OOC and IC, this is a forum 7 roleplay, why should I care?

[Lamaredia]

"If you wish to insult Charles's family kindly do it outside the chamber alone, a proper debate is going on here that senators such as Charles wish to partake in and they should not have to do it under a barrage of insults."

OOC: Don't mix up IC and OOC, I have addressed you as Taras therefor Nihil does not exist.

I don't give 1 fuck about the divide between OOC and IC, this is a forum 7 roleplay, why should I care?

Are you actually trying to get kicked out of the senate?

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

"If you wish to insult Charles's family kindly do it outside the chamber alone, a proper debate is going on here that senators such as Charles wish to partake in and they should not have to do it under a barrage of insults."

OOC: Don't mix up IC and OOC, I have addressed you as Taras therefor Nihil does not exist.

I don't give 1 fuck about the divide between OOC and IC, this is a forum 7 roleplay, why should I care?

"Senator I ask again, please keep things civil in the chamber."

[The Licentian Isles]

I don't give 1 fuck about the divide between OOC and IC, this is a forum 7 roleplay, why should I care?

"Senator I ask again, please keep things civil in the chamber."

Nihil, he's clearly making an OOC comment there. You can't claim he's metagaming, and then do so yourself.

[Next Washington]

Lamaredia, maybe instead of having a go at NW because his first language is not English and his punctuation may be a but off at times, you could help correct his mistakes?

They should have been corrected before the bill was even submitted. Send it back into the coffee house.

it was in the coffee shop, for a long time, renewed several times, if you don't read it, bad luck

[Lamaredia]

They should have been corrected before the bill was even submitted. Send it back into the coffee house.

it was in the coffee shop, for a long time, renewed several times, if you don't read it, bad luck

I read it. Send it back to the coffee shop for grammatical repairs, and then get it back here. This discussion shouldn't even be held here in the first place.

[Next Washington]

now we have, but is there a guarantee we have one in the future?

Once the bill that prohibits an opposition budget, and causes the budget to pass into effect passes, yes we do.

my grammar may not suit this act, but you get my intention, or is there a part in it you don't understand?

Intention =/= what matters. There is literally a law on this, read it.

who says your bill passes?
no, i won't read this law... everyone writes bills as he likes, there's nearly no standardized bill form, and instead of pointing out this, you could do something productive and make a standardized bill form that everyone can use for riting bills

[Next Washington]

it was in the coffee shop, for a long time, renewed several times, if you don't read it, bad luck

I read it. Send it back to the coffee shop for grammatical repairs, and then get it back here. This discussion shouldn't even be held here in the first place.

1) why should i send it back?
2) which mistakes? tell me and i'll correct them in here

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

"Senator I ask again, please keep things civil in the chamber."

Nihil, he's clearly making an OOC comment there. You can't claim he's metagaming, and then do so yourself.

OOC: He said he does not care so if to him they don't exist I now see no reason to bother myself anymore. As I started in IC I am just going to stick to it.

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

it was in the coffee shop, for a long time, renewed several times, if you don't read it, bad luck

I read it. Send it back to the coffee shop for grammatical repairs, and then get it back here. This discussion shouldn't even be held here in the first place.

This discussion can take place here, don't worry.


Jerry, do you wish to tidy up your bill? It would help I believe.

[Lamaredia]

I read it. Send it back to the coffee shop for grammatical repairs, and then get it back here. This discussion shouldn't even be held here in the first place.

1) why should i send it back?
2) which mistakes? tell me and i'll correct them in here

1) Grammatical errors, following the senator grammar bill.
2) Not my job, nor the time that I can spend on it.

[Lamaredia]

I read it. Send it back to the coffee shop for grammatical repairs, and then get it back here. This discussion shouldn't even be held here in the first place.

This discussion can take place here, don't worry.

It's in the middle of debate though?

[Ainin]

Over-regulation?

Creating an accident investigation agency and mandating event data recorders is over-regulation?

Event-data recorders are essential tools for investigators, without which their jobs are extremely hard and investigations are often left without conclusive results. The government has an interest in public safety, and it's our duty to investigate and remedy fatal problems with vehicles, to save lives.

And if you think an accident investigation agency is "overregulation", then we have a problem here.

there's a police, many cars have recorders, and every car company can help you investigate at their models

The police isn't a magical omniscient institution capable of finding what bad things happened, especially when your wreck looks like this or this.

And cars =/= vehicles. A car is a vehicle, but a vehicle isn't a car. Also, how will the companies know what's wrong if there's nothing there to tell them?

Mandating that select vehicles are equipped with event-data recorders have implemented numerous changes that are credited with saving countless lives. Any government with even remote interest for public safety would implement this. What bad thing could come from sticking a black box into a vehicle? It costs a negligible amount of money to place and maintain, and the benefits overwhelmingly outweigh the disadvantages, which are extremely minor.