NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 4

[Oneracon]

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations.

But we need promote cultures, all cultures not only french.

Shh, don't say the M word or you'll bring the anti-immigration front.

[Lamaredia]

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations.

But we need promote cultures, all cultures not only french.

Yes, but joining the Francophonie is a start. Joining an already existing organisation that will most likely get us better relations with several of the countries in it, is better than creating an entirely new organisation that only we are in.

[The Nihilistic view]

The primary mission of the organization is the promotion of the French language as an international language, it's first aim is "Promoting French language and cultural and linguistic diversity."

It want's it's members to make french their main international language. It is culturally imperialistic, it want's it's members to speak and like french culture.

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations.

We have little french culture and language, what other reason is there you want us to join other than to increase our Frenchness and make it one of our main languages at the expense of Aurentine, Dutch, English and German? There is not room for another main language in our schools. We have more cultures than most nations already and none of it is French. We don't need this siring the pot.

We already have the Commonwealth and the UN that do the non cultural aims of the Francophonie. (anybody noticed how it sounds "Franco-Phoney" in English?)

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

23 November Act
Author: Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS: Order | Urgency: Paramount
Sponsors: Britanno, Geilinor [NDP], Rijkeland [NDP], New Zepuha [NDP], East Ormania [IP], Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Unicario [RG]

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On Illegal Organisations
The following organisations, whether this be their formal or informal name, are deemed illegal in the Aurentine Commonwealth:

• Aurentine-British Mafia
• Jewish Mafia
• Franco-Uzbek Mafia
• American Mafia
• Aurentine Secret Patriotic Movement
• Auca-cfg
• Freedom Whigs
• People's Armed Forces for the Liberation of Aurentina
• Sicilian Mafia

With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

RE: Internal Security Act (On the Aurentine National Gendarmerie)
The Aurentinian National Gendarmerie is renamed the Aurentine National Gendarmerie.
The Aurentine National Gendarmerie's powers are hereby consolidated to include that of any regional constabulary.
The words "the Gendarmerie and" are struck out from the State of Emergency Act.
The Gendarmerie is mandated to create an undercover force to be sporadically stationed onboard large Aurentine passenger airliners to prevent and deter aircraft hijackings.

RE: Corps Creation Charter (On the Corps of Military Police)
The Corps of Military Police, Naval Corps of Regulators and Air Force Constabulary, to be collectively known for the purpose of future legislation as the Aurentine Provost, are afforded the rights and responsibilities listed under the Policing and Law Enforcement Act, solely on and in the 2km radius around Defence Ministry property.

Codifying Informal Organisations
The Aurentine Financial Police is codified as an investigative agency under the Ministry of Finance tasked with investigating corporate financial crime. It does not hold any law enforcement powers, but may seek and enforce search warrants granted by the Commonwealth Prosecution Service.
The Capital Transportation Police is codified as the law enforcement agency of the Leishaagen Transportation Board/Capital Transportation Commission. Its manpower will be taken from Leishaagen's regional constabulary and will be under the jurisdiction of the latter. It has jurisdiction in and around the property of the Capital Transportation Commission.
The National Police Bureau is created as an agency to supervise and coordinate the activities of regional constabularies, and shall be headed by a Police Commissioner, to be appointed by the Minister of the Interior and who sits in office at the latter's pleasure.
The Arson Investigation Unit is created as an agency to investigate fires of criminal origin (arson). It has the power to arrest suspects.

RE: Ministry Foundation Act (On Constabularies)
Keeping in line with the will and spirit of the Ministry Foundation Act, the Ministry of Justice is relieved of its jurisdiction over the Constabularies, and the Interior Ministry is given it.

Added ~ Secretary

[The Nihilistic view]

The primary mission of the organization is the promotion of the French language as an international language, it's first aim is "Promoting French language and cultural and linguistic diversity."

It want's it's members to make french their main international language. It is culturally imperialistic, it want's it's members to speak and like french culture.

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations that have domestic francophone culture.

We don't have any francophoney culture in Aurentina.

[Oneracon]

But we need promote cultures, all cultures not only french.

Yes, but joining the Francophonie is a start. Joining an already existing organisation that will most likely get us better relations with several of the countries in it, is better than creating an entirely new organisation that only we are in.

While La Francophonie is an admirable organization, especially for giving a larger international voice to developing countries than organizations like the UN, I honestly do not see a place for Aurentina in it.

To my knowledge we have no strong connection to France, French/francophone culture, or the French diaspora... nor do we use French in any official capacity.

[Oneracon]

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations that have domestic francophone culture.

We don't have any francophoney culture in Aurentina.

Hence why I object to this bill and will be voting against it.

[The Nihilistic view]

23 November Act
Author: Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS: Order | Urgency: Paramount
Sponsors: Britanno, Geilinor [NDP], Rijkeland [NDP], New Zepuha [NDP], East Ormania [IP], Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Unicario [RG]

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On Illegal Organisations
The following organisations, whether this be their formal or informal name, are deemed illegal in the Aurentine Commonwealth:

• Aurentine-British Mafia
• Jewish Mafia
• Franco-Uzbek Mafia
• American Mafia
• Aurentine Secret Patriotic Movement
• Auca-cfg
• Freedom Whigs
• People's Armed Forces for the Liberation of Aurentina
• Sicilian Mafia

With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

RE: Internal Security Act (On the Aurentine National Gendarmerie)
The Aurentinian National Gendarmerie is renamed the Aurentine National Gendarmerie.
The Aurentine National Gendarmerie's powers are hereby consolidated to include that of any regional constabulary.
The words "the Gendarmerie and" are struck out from the State of Emergency Act.
The Gendarmerie is mandated to create an undercover force to be sporadically stationed onboard large Aurentine passenger airliners to prevent and deter aircraft hijackings.

RE: Corps Creation Charter (On the Corps of Military Police)
The Corps of Military Police, Naval Corps of Regulators and Air Force Constabulary, to be collectively known for the purpose of future legislation as the Aurentine Provost, are afforded the rights and responsibilities listed under the Policing and Law Enforcement Act, solely on and in the 2km radius around Defence Ministry property.

Codifying Informal Organisations
The Aurentine Financial Police is codified as an investigative agency under the Ministry of Finance tasked with investigating corporate financial crime. It does not hold any law enforcement powers, but may seek and enforce search warrants granted by the Commonwealth Prosecution Service.
The Capital Transportation Police is codified as the law enforcement agency of the Leishaagen Transportation Board/Capital Transportation Commission. Its manpower will be taken from Leishaagen's regional constabulary and will be under the jurisdiction of the latter. It has jurisdiction in and around the property of the Capital Transportation Commission.
The National Police Bureau is created as an agency to supervise and coordinate the activities of regional constabularies, and shall be headed by a Police Commissioner, to be appointed by the Minister of the Interior and who sits in office at the latter's pleasure.
The Arson Investigation Unit is created as an agency to investigate fires of criminal origin (arson). It has the power to arrest suspects.

RE: Ministry Foundation Act (On Constabularies)
Keeping in line with the will and spirit of the Ministry Foundation Act, the Ministry of Justice is relieved of its jurisdiction over the Constabularies, and the Interior Ministry is given it.

Added ~ Secretary

Un add it. He never said he wanted it added. It was just posted here, could have been for any reason.

[The Nihilistic view]

We don't have any francophoney culture in Aurentina.

Hence why I object to this bill and will be voting against it.

So why you arguing against me?

[Lamaredia]

Yes, but joining the Francophonie is a start. Joining an already existing organisation that will most likely get us better relations with several of the countries in it, is better than creating an entirely new organisation that only we are in.

While La Francophonie is an admirable organization, especially for giving a larger international voice to developing countries than organizations like the UN, I honestly do not see a place for Aurentina in it.

To my knowledge we have no strong connection to France, French/francophone culture, or the French diaspora... nor do we use French in any official capacity.

When the bill was being drafted in the coffee shop, I believe someone showed us our connections to french culture. Can't find it right now though..

[Oneracon]

Hence why I object to this bill and will be voting against it.

So why you arguing against me?

Because you are relying on hyperbolic false claims of cultural imperialism rather than the simple fact that we have no connection to francophone culture as your reasoning for objecting to membership.

[The Nihilistic view]

While La Francophonie is an admirable organization, especially for giving a larger international voice to developing countries than organizations like the UN, I honestly do not see a place for Aurentina in it.

To my knowledge we have no strong connection to France, French/francophone culture, or the French diaspora... nor do we use French in any official capacity.

When the bill was being drafted in the coffee shop, I believe someone showed us our connections to french culture. Can't find it right now though..

We have none, in the history. We have a small amount of ethnic french people but no more than the UK, Germany, Spain and Italy. The Francophoney is no more than a French attempt to still feel like they have an empire. The Commonwealth has no cultural remit it is purely about good governance and humanitarian issues. If the the Francophoney had the same aims it would be reasonable to join. I may still vote against but I could see it's only aim was to promote good things. Right now it's main aim is to promote one culture above others and that is wrong.

[The Nihilistic view]

So why you arguing against me?

Because you are relying on hyperbolic false claims of cultural imperialism rather than the simple fact that we have no connection to francophone culture as your reasoning for objecting to membership.

I guess you missed my massive posts both today and in the coffee shop on the subject?

[Oneracon]

When the bill was being drafted in the coffee shop, I believe someone showed us our connections to french culture. Can't find it right now though..

We have none, in the history. We have a small amount of ethnic french people but no more than the UK, Germany, Spain and Italy. The Francophoney is no more than a French attempt to still feel like they have an empire. The Commonwealth has no cultural remit it is purely about good governance and humanitarian issues. If the the Francophoney had the same aims it would be reasonable to join. I may still vote against but I could see it's only aim was to promote good things. Right now it's main aim is to promote one culture above others and that is wrong.

La Francophonie is the francophone equivalent of the Commonwealth.

The only reason that the Commonwealth does not have a remit of promoting English and anglophone culture is that English has become the de facto international language following the post-WWII rise of the United States' role in the global community.

[Euskirribakondara]

Senator Gjhordi Bhradrín-le-Thagn finally came back to the Chamber after misteriously disappearing from it since late Summer 2013; and although he was enjoying the 'Franco-Phoney' debate; he wanted to turn everyone's attention back to the Embassy Act.

"Aurentina cannot afford holding an embassy on every country that has been recognized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Why would an Aurentine Embassy be useful in Tuvalu? It makes no sense at all.

I believe, though, that the original purpose of the bill was the strengthening of our commonwealth's Foreign relations; and I think we could do that with different mechanisms; like establishing formal diplomatic ties with other nations BUT without having to build a, and I quote from the proposed bill, <<building or compound housing an ambassador's offices and staff>>.

Following the example of most countries in the world, our ambassadors should be able to be ambassadors to several nations at a time, grouped by similar cultural characteristics and ties with our nation... Like an unique ambassador to all Central Asia, for example.

Moreover, we shouldn't open formal diplomatic relations with nation that we have no interest on (or viceversa)."

[The Nihilistic view]

We have none, in the history. We have a small amount of ethnic french people but no more than the UK, Germany, Spain and Italy. The Francophoney is no more than a French attempt to still feel like they have an empire. The Commonwealth has no cultural remit it is purely about good governance and humanitarian issues. If the the Francophoney had the same aims it would be reasonable to join. I may still vote against but I could see it's only aim was to promote good things. Right now it's main aim is to promote one culture above others and that is wrong.

La Francophonie is the francophone equivalent of the Commonwealth.

The only reason that the Commonwealth does not have a remit of promoting English and anglophone culture is that English has become the de facto international language following the post-WWII rise of the United States' role in the global community.

It's not, because of the cultural requirement.

And no the reason is because ex Empire countries don't want to be force fed another culture. They would all leave if the UK tried that, furthermore I would not want the UK and commonwealth to force that on members.

[The Nihilistic view]

Senator Gjhordi Bhradrín-le-Thagn finally came back to the Chamber after misteriously disappearing from it since late Summer 2013; and although he was enjoying the 'Franco-Phoney' debate; he wanted to turn everyone's attention back to the Embassy Act.

"Aurentina cannot afford holding an embassy on every country that has been recognized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Why would an Aurentine Embassy be useful in Tuvalu? It makes no sense at all.

I believe, though, that the original purpose of the bill was the strengthening of our commonwealth's Foreign relations; and I think we could do that with different mechanisms; like establishing formal diplomatic ties with other nations BUT without having to build a, and I quote from the proposed bill, <<building or compound housing an ambassador's offices and staff>>.

Following the example of most countries in the world, our ambassadors should be able to be ambassadors to several nations at a time, grouped by similar cultural characteristics and ties with our nation... Like an unique ambassador to all Central Asia, for example.

Moreover, we shouldn't open formal diplomatic relations with nation that we have no interest on (or viceversa)."

Boris stands up.

"The senator forgets that the main focus of many embassies and consulates is to be there to help it's nationals who get into trouble whilst in a foreign country or to establish trade and business ties. This is why it is important they are established in almost every nation around the world, they provide a service for our people. Something we can't do if we don't have a diplomatic mission and offices in any country in question. This is not about foreign relations, this is about being there to help our people when they go abroad. "

[Euskirribakondara]

Boris stands up.

"The senator forgets that the main focus of many embassies and consulates is to be there to help it's nationals who get into trouble whilst in a foreign country or to establish trade and business ties. This is why it is important they are established in almost every nation around the world, they provide a service for our people. Something we can't do if we don't have a diplomatic mission and offices in any country in question. This is not about foreign relations, this is about being there to help our people when they go abroad. "

"I'd like to remind you that there's a very important difference between what an Embassy or Consulate does, and how these concepts are defined in the bill. Yes, we need to get in touch with countries all over the world, but that does not need a building.

My point is that a single building or compound in say, Suva (capital of Fiji); can have jurisdiction over all of Polynesia. Not even the United States of America has an Embassy Complex on EVERY country it has recognized.

We can protect our nationals and establish trade and business ties with all the countries in the world, without building little Aurentine buildings on every capital of the world. Moreover, there will be cases in which we'll need several embassies in one country, but only one or none in another country. This is determined by our closeness to said countries.

In the United Kingdom, for example, it would be useful to have consulates and other similar offices all over Great Britain, because there are Aurentines there; and we've always had a direct relationship with that country. But we won't dot Afghanistan with consulates in every city.

Lastly, if we have no interest on Burundi, and Burundi has no interest on us; why fund an ambassador, HIS WHOLE STAFF, a new building and its maintenance.... to serve the only, solitary, backpacking Aurentine tourist who got lost in Bujumbura?"

[Skeckoa]

Government Donations Act
Author: Benito Calvino (LPA); Sponsors: James Lu (LPA); John Wilson (RefP), Blahblahia (LPA), Edward von Engels (LPA); Section: Finances; Urgency: Moderate-Low
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth hereby passes the following:

1.DONATION TO THE AURENTINE GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM
(a)General Rule
The "2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal" is amended by adding at the end the following new part:

DONATION TO THE GOVERNMENT

(a)General Rule
Every taxpayer who makes a return of the tax imposed by 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal for any taxable year may designate that an amount (not less than £1) in addition to any payment of tax for such taxable year shall be deposited in the general fund of the Treasury and shall be made available to the ministry or government institution of their choice.

(b)Manner And Time Of Designation
Any designation under subsection (a) for any taxable year—

(1)shall be made at the time of filing the return of the tax imposed by 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal for such taxable year and in such manner as the Secretary may by regulation prescribe, except that such designation shall be made either on the first page of the return or on the page bearing the taxpayer’s signature, and
(2)shall be accompanied by a payment of the amount so designated.
(c)Treatment Of Amounts Designated
For purposes of this title, the amount designated by any taxpayer under subsection (a) shall be treated as a contribution made by such taxpayer to the an institution or ministry under the jurisdiction of the Commonwealth of Aurentina on the last date prescribed for filing the return of tax imposed by 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal (determined without regard to extensions) or, if later, the date the return is filed.

.

(b)Clerical Amendment
The table of parts for 2013 Aurentine Budget is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new item:

Donation to the Government

.

(c)Effective Date
The amendments made by this section shall apply to all taxable years beginning after the date of the enactment of this Act, and shall apply to all future national budgets.

Code: Select all

[box][b][size=150]Government Donations Act[/size][/b]
[size=85]Author: Benito Calvino (LPA); Sponsors: James Lu (LPA); John Wilson (RefP), Blahblahblania (LPA), Edward von Engels (LPA); Section: Finances; Urgency: [color=#FFBF00]Moderate-Low[/color][/size]
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth hereby passes the following:

1.DONATION TO THE AURENTINE GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE INCOME TAX SYSTEM
(a)General Rule
The "2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal" is amended by adding at the end the following new part:

DONATION TO THE GOVERNMENT

(a)General Rule
Every taxpayer who makes a return of the tax imposed by 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal for any taxable year may designate that an amount (not less than £1) in addition to any payment of tax for such taxable year shall be deposited in the general fund of the Treasury and shall be made available to the ministry or government institution of their choice.

(b)Manner And Time Of Designation
Any designation under subsection (a) for any taxable year—

(1)shall be made at the time of filing the return of the tax imposed by 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal for such taxable year and in such manner as the Secretary may by regulation prescribe, except that such designation shall be made either on the first page of the return or on the page bearing the taxpayer’s signature, and
(2)shall be accompanied by a payment of the amount so designated.
(c)Treatment Of Amounts Designated
For purposes of this title, the amount designated by any taxpayer under subsection (a) shall be treated as a contribution made by such taxpayer to the an institution or ministry under the jurisdiction of the Commonwealth of Aurentina on the last date prescribed for filing the return of tax imposed by 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal (determined without regard to extensions) or, if later, the date the return is filed.

.

(b)Clerical Amendment
The table of parts for 2013 Aurentine Budget is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new item:

Donation to the Government

.

(c)Effective Date
The amendments made by this section shall apply to all taxable years beginning after the date of the enactment of this Act, and shall apply to all future national budgets.[/box]

Can I ask that this be added to the queue under FINANCES (I think that's the one)

[Resora]

Ah, where to begin on the Immigration Act.

2. For the purposes of this Act, "Aurentine citizen" refers to an individual of Aurentine nationality, thus granted certain legal, social and political rights and privileges to be established in this Act,

12. Citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth have the following rights:

a. The right to vote in national and subnational elections;
b. The right to stand for public office;
c. The right to attain and apply for public sector employment;
d. The right to apply for employment in sectors, agencies and institutions associated with the provision of national security, such as the National Intelligencery, the Commonwealth Armed Forces and the Aurentine National Gendermerie;

Sloppy writing. As this bill is written, the language of this bill codifies the rights of the Aurentine citizen, whether or not that is its intent. None of the rights of citizenship, as described here, are conditional, which means should this bill pass into law, most common restrictions on these rights will come into conflict with this bill. No provision is made for restricting these rights, no matter the criteria -- for example, a convicted violent felon, who still holds legal Aurentine nationality, is still a citizen as defined by this bill and thus has the right to run for office, or a toddler could run for office and or vote by merit of his nationality.

14. Foreign nationals who are not permanent residents (PR) or Aurentine citizens and who have been granted the right to dwell and be employed within the Aurentine Commonwealth's territorial borders are not entitled to the rights listed in clauses (12) and (13) of this Act,

I'm sure locking tourists, diplomats, businesspeople, noncitizen workers and foreign celebrities out from our public healthcare system, even in the event of injury while in Aurentina, will reflect well on our nation. Nothing like sending a tourist back to their home country with a broken arm/a giant bill for taking care of their broken arm to spread international good will, eh?

13. Individuals with permanent resident (PR) status in the Aurentine Commonwealth shall not have access to the rights listed in clause (12) of this Act until they become certified as citizens and nationals of the Aurentine Commonwealth, until which time they shall have access to the following rights:

Oh, nevermind, I see you're also planning on excluding citizens from our healthcare system, instead reserving it for permanent residents until which time they decide to become citizens and thus lose access to educational subsidies, healthcare, pensions, and all those other luxuries. Who wrote this, seriously? (Rhetorical question, of course).

19. An individual will be granted the right to reside, be employed or study at an Aurentine educational institution within the territorial borders of the Aurentine Commonwealth as a foreign national with an indefinite leave to remain, provided they fulfill the following the requirements, are approved by the AVIO and issued a relevant employment-based visa:

a. An Aurentine-based company has applied for an employment visa to permit the residency of a foreign worker within the Aurentine Commonwealth, as the foreign worker in question meets the necessary skill requirements of the private company's hiring policy, or the foreign student in question has been accepted into an Aurentine university or college;

17. Individuals are considered Aurentine citizens and of Aurentine nationality if they fulfill any of the following criteria, and are required to apply to the AVIO for citizenship status unless they have been born within the Aurentine Commonwealth:
f. They have attained permanent residency (PR) status in Aurentina and have had legal residence in the Aurentine Commonwealth for 3 years and intend to continue living and working within the territorial borders of the Aurentine Commonwealth;

So in short, the only way someone can get residency and thus have a chance at citizenship is if (a) they are already sponsored by a university or a corporation, or are wealthy, or (b), failing that, they win the sponsorship of a corporate farm that provides them with the means to get temporary residency (but not medical care while working here, because you're just a worthless seasonal agri laborer). If I didn't know better, I'd assume you're trying to end immigration barring a handful of wealthy white types. Why not stop beating around the bush and just copy the US's old immigration acts from the 1920s?

36. The Aurentine Border Force (ABF) is hereby authorized to ...enter private property of individuals, with a relevant signed warrant under the Judicial Act

'
Surely the serving of warrants is something the police, and not the ABF, should be responsible for?

to demand the presentation of relevant immigration documents, be they national identification card, passport, Permanent Resident identification card or stamped and signed visas, if and only if the police officer conducting the search can prove probable cause that the individual was guilty of illegal immigration

For such a sweeping provision, there is virtually nothing about procedure written here. What defines "probable cause"? A strong accent or poor skills in our language? What happens if a tourist left her passport inside the hotel? Does she get detained for the mistake of having an accent and leaving her papers inside her room?

a complaint may be lodged to the Aurentine Police Federation under the Policing and Law Enforcement Act if a police officer is suspected of having conducted an unlawful search

Well that's relieving, provided we can actually figure out what counts as a lawful search. Meanwhile, the tourist sits in a jail cell because she left her papers in her room when she went swimming in the hotel pool.

Leave it to the Aurentine right to make a bill that merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing.

[New Zepuha]

Yes of course. Blame the Right for oppression when the ProgCoa is continually limiting freedom of speech and our right to do with our body as we please. So I will ask you to withdraw your comment there at the end.

[The Nihilistic view]

Leave it to the Aurentine right to make a bill that merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing.

Order!

Remarks like that are not considered the done thing in this chamber. Please refrain from future generalisations and Ad hominem's against entire sides of the house.

[Resora]

Leave it to the Aurentine right to make a bill that merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing.

Order!

Remarks like that are not considered the done thing in this chamber. Please refrain from future generalisations and Ad hominem's against entire sides of the house.

Please point out where precisely I leveled an ad hominem against any person or group, rather than (a) claiming the bill "merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing" and (b) accurately stated that the Aurentine right was responsible for said bill that "merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing".

[New Zepuha]

Order!

Remarks like that are not considered the done thing in this chamber. Please refrain from future generalisations and Ad hominem's against entire sides of the house.

Please point out where precisely I leveled an ad hominem against any person or group, rather than (a) claiming the bill "merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing" and (b) accurately stated that the Aurentine right was responsible for said bill that "merges ambiguous infringements on civil liberties with classism and a healthy dose of absurdly poor writing".

As ruled before, a reference to a party or political affiliation can be taken as an attack. And such is not permitted under PPUBA.

(4) The use of offensive, provocative or threatening language in any Senate thread is strictly forbidden.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

I believe most senators are currently overreacting to the Francophonie bill. The Francophonie is not meant to override other languages, it's meant to promote French as a language to be used among the other native languages of nations. Do you see the government of Canada trying to kill off English and make everyone speak French? do you see the Romanian government discouraging the use of Romanian? Do you see the government of Qatar trying to bury Arabic and replace it with French? No. The Francophonie seeks to promote French so that people can use it as a second, third, fourth, etc. language so that it may open up new opportunities, opportunities that will be available to the people of Aurentina with Francophonie membership. Why should the people of Aurentina be left in the dark about learning about French culture, when they can be part of a nation that will help educate them on foreign cultures. The Francophonie does not exist to forcefeed culture down the throats of foreign nations, it seeks to complement with the value of complémentarité with the other cultures. Francophone culture is not just French culture, Francophone culture touches many areas of the world such as West Africa, the West Indies, North America, and Asia, why should our citizens not get the opportunity to learn about these many cultures and to inform themselves so as to make themselves better global citizens?

The Francophonie also helps to promote key tenets of human rights such as democracy, education and peace. Why should we not help with promoting these in the countries where people need it the most? It also promotes collaboration on education, higher education and research. By being members of the Francophonie, we can collaborate scientifically with other nations. Instead of one nation of 40 million trying to solve a problem, why not join 57 nations with a total of around a billion people collaborating for a better future for the world? Is it really in our best interests to isolate ourselves from other nations and trying to prohibit the people from experiencing and learning about other cultures.