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Lamaredia
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Postby Lamaredia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:41 am

- Treatment of Drug Users Act: PASSED
AYE: 23
NAY: 7
ABSTAIN: 7
Currently representing the SLP/R, Leading to a brighter future, in the NS Parliament RP as Representative Jonas Trägårdh Apelstierna.

Currently a co-admin of the NS Parliament RP

Political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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Postby Lamaredia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:41 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Corenea wrote:How news site comes out
(Obama drinking a cup of Pepsi)

-CNN: President Obama is enjoying a refreshing cup of Pepsi
-FOX: Obama declares war on Coca-Cola
-MSNBC: Let us journey to the greatest drink on Earth: Pepsi. Anyone disagree is a racist, homphobic sexist (hires Alec Baldwin)
-InfoWars: Evil dictator Obama is brainwashing Americans with the tyrannical drink of Pepsi
-Young Turks: Obama is drinking the greatest progressive drink Pepsi to rid America of evil old rich white men.
-BBC: Drone strikes in Pakistan killed 13 civilians.

Playing the ''Liberal' media'' game, I see.
But seriously, I thought speaking wasn't allowed in the chamber?

The PpT has changed the policies (at least for his term).
Currently representing the SLP/R, Leading to a brighter future, in the NS Parliament RP as Representative Jonas Trägårdh Apelstierna.

Currently a co-admin of the NS Parliament RP

Political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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Postby Kamchastkia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:42 am

Corenea wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Yeah good point. MSNBC is probably the worst one. Infowars too.

How news site comes out
(Obama drinking a cup of Pepsi)

-CNN: President Obama is enjoying a refreshing cup of Pepsi
-FOX: Obama declares war on Coca-Cola
-MSNBC: Let us journey to the greatest drink on Earth: Pepsi. Anyone disagree is a racist, homphobic sexist (hires Alec Baldwin)
-InfoWars: Evil dictator Obama is brainwashing Americans with the tyrannical drink of Pepsi
-Young Turks: Obama is drinking the greatest progressive drink Pepsi to rid America of evil old rich white men.
-BBC: Drone strikes in Pakistan killed 13 civilians.

-BBC: Our glorious ally Israel has once again stood up against the tyrannical Iran.

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Neo Rome Republic
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:42 am

Lamaredia wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Playing the ''Liberal' media'' game, I see.
But seriously, I thought speaking wasn't allowed in the chamber?

The PpT has changed the policies (at least for his term).

Well, crap.
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This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:44 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:The PpT has changed the policies (at least for his term).

Well, crap.

How is that bad? It's good.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Lamaredia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:46 am

- Health Card Act: PASSED
AYE: 30
NAY: 5
ABSTAIN: 2
Currently representing the SLP/R, Leading to a brighter future, in the NS Parliament RP as Representative Jonas Trägårdh Apelstierna.

Currently a co-admin of the NS Parliament RP

Political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:47 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Not as bad as the anti-fracking crew

The antivaxxers and the anti nuclear people are the absolute worst imo.

Agreed wholeheartedly. The anti-nuke people really tax my patience, wailing on about Fukushima, when they don't even know what happened there (they love to claim it "melted down", when what actually happened was a pressurized steam explosion, essentially a boiler explosion.). >:(
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:47 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Well, crap.

How is that bad? It's good.

Yeah having to read through stupid political correctness, where we should focus on passing laws is such a ''ggggoooooodddd'' thing. :roll:
Irritating is more like it.
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This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:49 am

The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:The antivaxxers and the anti nuclear people are the absolute worst imo.

Agreed wholeheartedly. The anti-nuke people really tax my patience, wailing on about Fukushima, when they don't even know what happened there (they love to claim it "melted down", when what actually happened was a pressurized steam explosion, essentially a boiler explosion.). >:(

They also love to claim that Chernobyl killed a million people when the actual death toll was four thousand.

If it weren't for the anti nuclear movement, we could be of fossil fuels by now.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:50 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:How is that bad? It's good.

Yeah having to read through stupid political correctness, where we should focus on passing laws is such a ''ggggoooooodddd'' thing. :roll:
Irritating is more like it.

This doesn't slow down passing laws, stop trying to shut down speech.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:52 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Yeah having to read through stupid political correctness, where we should focus on passing laws is such a ''ggggoooooodddd'' thing. :roll:
Irritating is more like it.

This doesn't slow down passing laws, stop trying to shut down speech.

It turn the chamber into a comedy show. Silly speech belongs outside of the chamber.
It does slow down laws, people become busy bantering stupidity, rather than discussing laws.
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Ethical and Metaphysical: (Pan) Humanist and Naturalist.
Political Views Sum: Centrist on social issues, Market Socialist on economic, and Radical Civic universalist on political governance.
This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:53 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:This doesn't slow down passing laws, stop trying to shut down speech.

It turn the chamber into a comedy show. Silly speech belongs outside of the chamber.
It does slow down laws, busy bantering stupidity, rather than discussing laws.

No it doesn't.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:54 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:It turn the chamber into a comedy show. Silly speech belongs outside of the chamber.
It does slow down laws, busy bantering stupidity, rather than discussing laws.

No it doesn't.

Yes it does.
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Political Views Sum: Centrist on social issues, Market Socialist on economic, and Radical Civic universalist on political governance.
This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Mediciano » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:56 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote: Agreed wholeheartedly. The anti-nuke people really tax my patience, wailing on about Fukushima, when they don't even know what happened there (they love to claim it "melted down", when what actually happened was a pressurized steam explosion, essentially a boiler explosion.). >:(

They also love to claim that Chernobyl killed a million people when the actual death toll was four thousand.

If it weren't for the anti nuclear movement, we could be of fossil fuels by now.

Nobody claims that Chernobyl killed millions, only that it detrimentally affected millions, despite being in a relatively isolated area. If a catastrophe like that happened on a small island nation (i.e. Aurentina) the effects would be utterly devastating.

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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:56 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:This doesn't slow down passing laws, stop trying to shut down speech.

It turn the chamber into a comedy show. Silly speech belongs outside of the chamber.
It does slow down laws, people become busy bantering stupidity, rather than discussing laws.


At least it's not like real legislatures, where the representatives are busy watching porn, or carving their initials into their desks.
Although NSA knows what our senators do in other tabs\windows...
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:57 am

The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:It turn the chamber into a comedy show. Silly speech belongs outside of the chamber.
It does slow down laws, people become busy bantering stupidity, rather than discussing laws.


At least it's not like real legislatures, where the representatives are busy watching porn, or carving their initials into their desks.
Although NSA knows what our senators do in other tabs\windows...

Doesn't make me feel much better, tbh.
Ethical and Metaphysical: (Pan) Humanist and Naturalist.
Political Views Sum: Centrist on social issues, Market Socialist on economic, and Radical Civic universalist on political governance.
This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:59 am

Mediciano wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:They also love to claim that Chernobyl killed a million people when the actual death toll was four thousand.

If it weren't for the anti nuclear movement, we could be of fossil fuels by now.

Nobody claims that Chernobyl killed millions, only that it detrimentally affected millions, despite being in a relatively isolated area. If a catastrophe like that happened on a small island nation (i.e. Aurentina) the effects would be utterly devastating.

People on NSG do claim that.

And the only reason chernobyl even happened is that the idiot Soviet managers decided to run a "safety test" in which the incompetent workers disabled all safety measures and purposely tried to get as close to meltdown as they could. Modern reactors have a negative void coefficient which means that they literally can not melt down.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:59 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

Prove it. The debate and vote schedule go on unaffected.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:59 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Nobody claims that Chernobyl killed millions, only that it detrimentally affected millions, despite being in a relatively isolated area. If a catastrophe like that happened on a small island nation (i.e. Aurentina) the effects would be utterly devastating.

People on NSG do claim that.

And the only reason chernobyl even happened is that the idiot Soviet managers decided to run a "safety test" in which the incompetent workers disabled all safety measures and purposely tried to get as close to meltdown as they could. Modern reactors have a negative void coefficient which means that they literally can not melt down.

Except when they do.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:03 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Yes it does.

Prove it. The debate and vote schedule go on unaffected.

We waste time discussing irrelevant things, if you want to waste time listening to political correctness rather than laws, fine.
But I don't, it's ridiculous. But apparently, you want to turn this chamber into a comedy show.
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Ethical and Metaphysical: (Pan) Humanist and Naturalist.
Political Views Sum: Centrist on social issues, Market Socialist on economic, and Radical Civic universalist on political governance.
This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:05 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Nobody claims that Chernobyl killed millions, only that it detrimentally affected millions, despite being in a relatively isolated area. If a catastrophe like that happened on a small island nation (i.e. Aurentina) the effects would be utterly devastating.

People on NSG do claim that.

And the only reason chernobyl even happened is that the idiot Soviet managers decided to run a "safety test" in which the incompetent workers disabled all safety measures and purposely tried to get as close to meltdown as they could. Modern reactors have a negative void coefficient which means that they literally can not melt down.

The workers weren't incompetent, their boss was. He ordered the test to continue at an unsafe power level even if the workers wanted to shut down the reactor. When the workers dropped the control rods to shut down the reaction, the graphite tips of the rods actually accelerated the reaction and since the reactors was running low on water, steam kept building and blew the top off of the reactor.
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Postby Mediciano » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:09 am

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:The workers weren't incompetent, their boss was. He ordered the test to continue at an unsafe power level even if the workers wanted to shut down the reactor. When the workers dropped the control rods to shut down the reaction, the graphite tips of the rods actually accelerated the reaction and since the reactors was running low on water, steam kept building and blew the top off of the reactor.

But don't worry, there is no incompetence or human error in Aurentina. So that couldn't happen here. :roll:
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:14 am

Mediciano wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:The workers weren't incompetent, their boss was. He ordered the test to continue at an unsafe power level even if the workers wanted to shut down the reactor. When the workers dropped the control rods to shut down the reaction, the graphite tips of the rods actually accelerated the reaction and since the reactors was running low on water, steam kept building and blew the top off of the reactor.

But don't worry, there is no incompetence or human error in Aurentina. So that couldn't happen here. :roll:

Not if our reactors have a negative void coefficient.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:15 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Prove it. The debate and vote schedule go on unaffected.

We waste time discussing irrelevant things, if you want to waste time listening to political correctness rather than laws, fine.
But I don't, it's ridiculous. But apparently, you want to turn this chamber into a comedy show.

No. Everyone else likes it this way. Stop whining, and stop trying to make the senate more dull.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:16 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:We waste time discussing irrelevant things, if you want to waste time listening to political correctness rather than laws, fine.
But I don't, it's ridiculous. But apparently, you want to turn this chamber into a comedy show.

No. Everyone else likes it this way. Stop whining, and stop trying to make the senate more dull.

Agreed, it's not wrecking much. If anyone actually wants to debate the bills, they still can.
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