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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:15 pm

Ainin wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:My ideal system would have a public option for the basic essential stuff, with lots of private options available (and not lol-expensive like in the US) if you want either (1) more robust coverage or (2) for your magical homeopathy water or whatever other quackery to be insured.

I like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-tier_h ... are#Canada

(totally not biased :p )

I'm also a big fan of the Swiss system. It's basically obamacare without the lol.
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Postby Corenea » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:17 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Ainin wrote:I like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-tier_h ... are#Canada

(totally not biased :p )

I'm also a big fan of the Swiss system. It's basically obamacare without the lol.

What is exactly the Singapore model?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:18 pm

Corenea wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I'm also a big fan of the Swiss system. It's basically obamacare without the lol.

What is exactly the Singapore model?

Switzerland. Not Singapore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Switzerland
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Postby Corenea » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Corenea wrote:What is exactly the Singapore model?

Switzerland. Not Singapore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Switzerland

Oops, in my defense, they're both small and have good economic ratings
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:20 pm

oh man i'm so high god man
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:21 pm

Corenea wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Switzerland. Not Singapore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Switzerland

Oops, in my defense, they're both small and have good economic ratings

True. Singapore is more state-capitalist though and I hate its absurd authoritarianism.

And though I like Switzerland a lot, there are some aspects of it that the US should absolutely NOT copy. First and foremost being the direct democracy.
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Postby Corenea » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:22 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Corenea wrote:Oops, in my defense, they're both small and have good economic ratings

True. Singapore is more state-capitalist though and I hate its absurd authoritarianism.

And though I like Switzerland a lot, there are some aspects of it that the US should absolutely NOT copy. First and foremost being the direct democracy.

Doesn't Singapore have really high economic freedom, right after Hong Kong or something (America is not even in the top 10)
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Postby Ainin » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:23 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Ainin wrote:I like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-tier_h ... are#Canada

(totally not biased :p )

I'm also a big fan of the Swiss system. It's basically obamacare without the lol.

Meh, I'm not a big fan of the system.

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Jesus Christ, again?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:23 pm

Corenea wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:True. Singapore is more state-capitalist though and I hate its absurd authoritarianism.

And though I like Switzerland a lot, there are some aspects of it that the US should absolutely NOT copy. First and foremost being the direct democracy.

Doesn't Singapore have really high economic freedom, right after Hong Kong or something (America is not even in the top 10)

buut it's subsidation and state ownership and uintervention man
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Postby Corenea » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:24 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:oh man i'm so high god man

What is it that you got high from this time?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:24 pm

Ainin wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:oh man i'm so high god man

Jesus Christ, again?

nah mman i haven't smoked bud in a whilr
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:25 pm

Corenea wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:oh man i'm so high god man

What is it that you got high from this time?

good ol mary jane
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:25 pm

Corenea wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:True. Singapore is more state-capitalist though and I hate its absurd authoritarianism.

And though I like Switzerland a lot, there are some aspects of it that the US should absolutely NOT copy. First and foremost being the direct democracy.

Doesn't Singapore have really high economic freedom

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Postby Placenza » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:26 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:oh man i'm so high god man


blaze it up man if you aint miles high you aint livin :D
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:27 pm

Placenza wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:oh man i'm so high god man


blaze it up man if you aint miles high you aint livin :D

shiiiiiiitt damn right haha. you ever smoke weed?
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Postby Placenza » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:28 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Placenza wrote:
blaze it up man if you aint miles high you aint livin :D

shiiiiiiitt damn right haha. you ever smoke weed?


No, and I'm against legalization of it.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:32 pm

Placenza wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:shiiiiiiitt damn right haha. you ever smoke weed?


No, and I'm against legalization of it.

Wel shit man. support your local drug dealer, i guess

hehee judt try it one day msn. drugs will open your mind
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:41 pm

Corenea wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:True. Singapore is more state-capitalist though and I hate its absurd authoritarianism.

And though I like Switzerland a lot, there are some aspects of it that the US should absolutely NOT copy. First and foremost being the direct democracy.

Doesn't Singapore have really high economic freedom, right after Hong Kong or something (America is not even in the top 10)

Yes but it's also insanely authoritarian.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:42 pm

Ainin wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I'm also a big fan of the Swiss system. It's basically obamacare without the lol.

Meh, I'm not a big fan of the system.


Why not?

The only thing I really dislike about the Swiss political/government system is the direct democracy, and that's because I'm strongly opposed to direct democracy in general.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:50 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Ainin wrote:Meh, I'm not a big fan of the system.


The only thing I really dislike about the Swiss political/government system is the direct democracy, and that's because I'm strongly opposed to direct democracy in general.

There's good reason to oppose it, as women's suffrage took forever in Switzerland.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about the Swiss political/government system is the direct democracy, and that's because I'm strongly opposed to direct democracy in general.

With good reason, as women's suffrage took forever in Switzerland.

One of many, many reasons why direct democracy is terrible. It also promotes mob rule and tyranny by majority.

My ideal system would be a democratic technocracy, but representative democracy also works pretty well.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:56 pm

A certain someone appears to be back...
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:58 pm

I also typed up some names. Thoughts, guys? -Ainin

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:00 pm

Ainin, which ever name you choose, please at least keep the chart updated in the next thread...
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