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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Ainin wrote:Wait, I just realized we forgot to ask Kam's opinion, like the law said...

On....?

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Ainin wrote:Wait, I just realized we forgot to ask Kam's opinion, like the law said...

On....?

The Mafia Inquiry Committee, posted above. You're on it.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:31 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:On....?

The Mafia Inquiry Committee, posted above. You're on it.

okey.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:31 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:The Mafia Inquiry Committee, posted above. You're on it.

okey.

Looks good to you?
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:32 pm

This discussion really shouldn't be in the Chamber.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:33 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:okey.

Looks good to you?

Suuuure :P. *Acts like he knows what he is talking about*

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:33 pm

Yanalia wrote:This discussion really shouldn't be in the Chamber.

Apologies, Senate President pro Tempore. If Kam could confirm here in his next post, we're done with the discussion.
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Postby Euskirribakondara » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:31 pm

Wait, I'm lost with all this "nonsense" posts behind me (in the sense they're not fully related to the chamber). Which bills are we debating now? I got lost after we confirmed Ainin as PM.
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Postby CTALNH » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:59 pm

CTALNH wrote:Add this:
Night watch Act

Author: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Safety and Order Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)


Aware that our country is facing a huge unrest because of criminal elements,

Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,

This Act:

Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,

Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,

Defines a "night watch organization" as:

1. A Watch or Guard that roam streets at night, especially for security

2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard
Fixed the simbed thing
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Postby Mediciano » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:03 pm

CTALNH wrote:Add this:
Night watch Act

Author: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Security Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)


Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements,

Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,

This Act:

Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,

Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,

Defines a "night watch organization" as:

1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, especially for security

2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard


Don't we have rules governing grammar correctness in bills? I count a number of problems and you should review and revise.

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Postby CTALNH » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:09 pm

Mediciano wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Add this:
Night watch Act

Author: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Security Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)


Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements,

Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,

This Act:

Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,

Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,

Defines a "night watch organization" as:

1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, especially for security

2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard


Don't we have rules governing grammar correctness in bills? I count a number of problems and you should review and revise.

Like?
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Postby Mediciano » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:45 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Don't we have rules governing grammar correctness in bills? I count a number of problems and you should review and revise.

Like?

Literally just re-read your bill. Or, alternatively, plug it into Microsoft Word and initiate spellcheck.
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Postby CTALNH » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:23 am

Mediciano wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Like?

Literally just re-read your bill. Or, alternatively, plug it into Microsoft Word and initiate spellcheck.

I don't have microsoft word.
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Postby Euskirribakondara » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:56 am

CTALNH wrote:Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements,
1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, especially for security


^^ I see those mistakes. There are probably more, I'm too sleepy to think correctly. But my grammar nazi side knows those two mistakes I pointed are, indeed, mistakes. A better punctuation in the bill wouldn't hurt, either.
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Postby Mediciano » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:42 am

CTALNH wrote:I don't have microsoft word.

Google Docs.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:52 am

CTALNH wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Add this:
Night watch Act

Author: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Safety and Order Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP),Belmaria (LCP),Placenza (ABP),Veroxia (SAP),The federal republic of Simonia (MSP)


Aware that our country is facing a huge unrest because of criminal elements,

Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations,

This Act:

Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety,

Repeals Section 4d of the ISA,

Defines a "night watch organization" as:

1. A Watch or Guard that roam streets at night, especially for security

2. Armed organized citizens following said Watch or Guard
Fixed the simbed thing


What idiocy is this?
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Postby CTALNH » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:00 am

Costa Alegria wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Fixed the simbed thing


What idiocy is this?

You have a problem?
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Postby Lamaredia » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:10 am

Please keep the discussion in the chamber about the current bills at debate. Take your concern about CTALNH's bill to the coffee shop.
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Postby Yanalia » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:24 am

Lamaredia wrote:Please keep the discussion in the chamber about the current bills at debate. Take your concern about CTALNH's bill to the coffee shop.


This, please.
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Postby Ziegenhain » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:43 am

I think this goes here. If not then oops


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Postby Oneracon » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:42 am

So when does voting begin?
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Postby Yanalia » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:59 am

Oneracon wrote:So when does voting begin?


In about 36 hours, I think. 7 bills = 72 hours of debate.
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Postby Phocidaea » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:04 pm

Ainin wrote:4d. No, that's like saying running a red light is OK if no one is around. It would lead to bad habits.

With the exception of speed limits, which, as rude as you may find it, is an area where you seem adamant about protecting people from themselves, your other counterpoints are logical. This one is just ridiculous, though. If a train is coming, signals and/or lowered arms should make it quite obvious. If a train is not coming, there is absolutely zero reason to stop - literally none. Nothing. No way you can support this with any logic.

At the risk of being somehow indicted with insulted your knowledge, I will point out once more, with great emphasis, that the bill mandates full stops at all railway crossings, which is wholly unacceptable with modern technology enabling the detection of coming trains at a long distance and for the signal to stop at crossings to be given only as necessary.

I would also like to know if you are aware of other nations where full stops at railroad crossings are always necessary, because I can testify that they are not in the vast majority of the nations of the world, including the United Kingdom to which many senators seem to enjoy sucking up.
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Postby Vairikai Sari » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:37 pm

OCC:What about the Restriction of Corporal Punishment act? Will that be added to the voting and debate?

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Postby Costa Alegria » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:54 pm

CTALNH wrote:You have a problem?


Yes. Firstly, you don't need a paramilitary, even if you call it a "guard", because that's what you have a "security" force for. Secondly, there's no regulations surrounding the use of said guard and thirdly, it's completely and utterly retarded and full of mistakes. Who the fuck would let armed citizens roam the street at night? I wouldn't trust half the people in my own fucking party with firearms let alone rednecks.

Only a complete and utter idiot would think "Hmm. This is good".
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