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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:42 pm

Bad Luck Unicario

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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:43 pm

Corenea wrote:Bad Luck Unicario

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I was seriously thinking exactly the same thing!
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Postby Britanno » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:52 pm

The subforum was supposed to launch our activity, but despite the bid being planned for months, it still hasn't been made.
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:05 pm

Britanno wrote:The subforum was supposed to launch our activity, but despite the bid being planned for months, it still hasn't been made.

Look, the mods are going to deny our bid because we are having inactivity. It's a catch-22 really.
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Postby Britanno » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:18 pm

Beta Test wrote:Look, the mods are going to deny our bid because we are having inactivity. It's a catch-22 really.

In that case, we should wait until summer when we get our annual load of activity. People might be seeing senate threads on the sidebar a lot then, so we could get support because people will be aware of our activity.
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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:56 pm

Hello Greeners, I'm going around each parties to list dead party members if the party decides to do their purgings of dead party members

-Dead Party Members (in the members category):
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Postby Unicario » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:58 pm

Corenea wrote:Hello Greeners, I'm going around each parties to list dead party members if the party decides to do their purgings of dead party members

-Dead Party Members (in the members category):
Quebec and Atlantic Canada


Noted, will be removed soon.
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:45 pm

I move for a whip in favour of the Energy Savings Act. It would be a real shame if it were to fail.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:50 pm

Pesda wrote:I move for a whip in favour of the Energy Savings Act. It would be a real shame if it were to fail.

Seconded.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:00 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:By any chance Oneracon are you Maltese as well?

Maltese on my dad's side.

The new President of Malta is actually my second cousin! :lol:

Same, my other half of me is Nicaraguan, although I feel a lot closer to my Maltese side, and anyway my Maltese family usually forget that I'm half Nicaraguan and consider me full Maltese :P. Soon I'll be getting Maltese citizenship and be ineligible for Nicaraguan citizenship anyway.

My second cousin is Toni Abela, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party. Glad to know that your family is a Labour one.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:53 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Maltese on my dad's side.

The new President of Malta is actually my second cousin! :lol:

Same, my other half of me is Nicaraguan, although I feel a lot closer to my Maltese side, and anyway my Maltese family usually forget that I'm half Nicaraguan and consider me full Maltese :P. Soon I'll be getting Maltese citizenship and be ineligible for Nicaraguan citizenship anyway.

I'm hoping to get Maltese citizenship soon (having an EU passport is handy), but it turns out that I may already be a Netherlands citizen by birth thanks to a loophole in their nationality law. Still need to do more digging for that.

My second cousin is Toni Abela, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party. Glad to know that your family is a Labour one.

Well at least one part of my family is, there is a bit of a schism between the PL and PN supporters. :p
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:02 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Pesda wrote:I move for a whip in favour of the Energy Savings Act. It would be a real shame if it were to fail.

Seconded.

I think this is enough? There are 26 members on the list, but some have ceased to exist, so I think we would round it down?
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thats cool i like ireland
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Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:04 pm

I have a question. Why is Haelunor on the blacklist? Having read the relevant document it seems that a member needs to commit three offences before being added to the blacklist.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:15 pm

Pesda wrote:I have a question. Why is Haelunor on the blacklist? Having read the relevant document it seems that a member needs to commit three offences before being added to the blacklist.


We have a blacklist?
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:20 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Pesda wrote:I have a question. Why is Haelunor on the blacklist? Having read the relevant document it seems that a member needs to commit three offences before being added to the blacklist.


We have a blacklist?

Apparently; you'll see it underneath the member list. And the only person on that list is Haelunor. For some reason.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:32 pm

Oh, beats me. Must be something to do with the resignation.
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Postby Pesda » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:14 pm

Which, to my knowledge, isn't enough of a reason.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:22 pm

Pesda wrote:Which, to my knowledge, isn't enough of a reason.


Why don't you resign and see if you get put on the list. :D

Anyway much of what went down could have been by TG so it's useless us speculating.

fascist slave driving twat aside :p I have not seen Uni do something without good reason in the senate before. So I can only conclude there was good reason.
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:26 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Pesda wrote:Which, to my knowledge, isn't enough of a reason.


Why don't you resign and see if you get put on the list. :D

Anyway much of what went down could have been by TG so it's useless us speculating.

fascist slave driving twat aside :p I have not seen Uni do something without good reason in the senate before. So I can only conclude there was good reason.

Still, it's best if proper procedure is followed. I'll wait to see what Uni says.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Unicario » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:37 pm

He was blacklisted for his general bad attitude.
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Postby Pesda » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:41 pm

Proper Procedure and Unacceptable Behavior
Drafted by Polvia
Adopted on 17 May 2013
...
Article IV – Punishment

(1) Should the Chairman find the utterances of a particular Member offensive or disorderly, that Member will be requested to post on the thread and to withdraw the unacceptable word or phrase unequivocally. The Member’s apology is accepted in good faith and the matter is then considered closed.
(2) However, if the Member persists in refusing to obey the directive of the Chairman to retract his or her words, the Chairman may then take action in punishment of the Member in question.
(3) The Member who has refused to withdraw their statements shall be warned of the punishment that will be given should they not withdraw their statements in their next immediate post on the party thread in question.
(4) Upon the first offense the Member shall be temporarily banned from the party, and all party threads, for five days, and shall lose all voting and party privileges, if they have such privileges, until three days of good behavior after returning to the party.
(5) Upon the second offense the Member shall be banned from the party, lose all claim of membership and all party threads for ten days. The Member must then reapply to the party, and shall not have any voting and party privileges, if they have such privileges, until seven days of good behavior after returning to the party.
(6) Upon the third offense the Member shall be permanently banned from the party and party threads, and have their name added to a blacklist.

I believe that three offences need to be committed before you're added to the blacklist, unless this is out of date.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Haelunor » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:51 pm

I did not realize the Chairman was this petty.

If adding me to a silly little blacklist makes you feel better, go ahead.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:54 pm

Pesda wrote:
Proper Procedure and Unacceptable Behavior
Drafted by Polvia
Adopted on 17 May 2013
...
Article IV – Punishment

(1) Should the Chairman find the utterances of a particular Member offensive or disorderly, that Member will be requested to post on the thread and to withdraw the unacceptable word or phrase unequivocally. The Member’s apology is accepted in good faith and the matter is then considered closed.
(2) However, if the Member persists in refusing to obey the directive of the Chairman to retract his or her words, the Chairman may then take action in punishment of the Member in question.
(3) The Member who has refused to withdraw their statements shall be warned of the punishment that will be given should they not withdraw their statements in their next immediate post on the party thread in question.
(4) Upon the first offense the Member shall be temporarily banned from the party, and all party threads, for five days, and shall lose all voting and party privileges, if they have such privileges, until three days of good behavior after returning to the party.
(5) Upon the second offense the Member shall be banned from the party, lose all claim of membership and all party threads for ten days. The Member must then reapply to the party, and shall not have any voting and party privileges, if they have such privileges, until seven days of good behavior after returning to the party.
(6) Upon the third offense the Member shall be permanently banned from the party and party threads, and have their name added to a blacklist.

I believe that three offences need to be committed before you're added to the blacklist, unless this is out of date.


Hae quit, so members rules would not apply in this case.
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Unicario
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Postby Unicario » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:27 pm

Pesda wrote:
Proper Procedure and Unacceptable Behavior
Drafted by Polvia
Adopted on 17 May 2013
...
Article IV – Punishment

(1) Should the Chairman find the utterances of a particular Member offensive or disorderly, that Member will be requested to post on the thread and to withdraw the unacceptable word or phrase unequivocally. The Member’s apology is accepted in good faith and the matter is then considered closed.
(2) However, if the Member persists in refusing to obey the directive of the Chairman to retract his or her words, the Chairman may then take action in punishment of the Member in question.
(3) The Member who has refused to withdraw their statements shall be warned of the punishment that will be given should they not withdraw their statements in their next immediate post on the party thread in question.
(4) Upon the first offense the Member shall be temporarily banned from the party, and all party threads, for five days, and shall lose all voting and party privileges, if they have such privileges, until three days of good behavior after returning to the party.
(5) Upon the second offense the Member shall be banned from the party, lose all claim of membership and all party threads for ten days. The Member must then reapply to the party, and shall not have any voting and party privileges, if they have such privileges, until seven days of good behavior after returning to the party.
(6) Upon the third offense the Member shall be permanently banned from the party and party threads, and have their name added to a blacklist.

I believe that three offences need to be committed before you're added to the blacklist, unless this is out of date.


Only applies to members. Non-members can be blacklisted/banned from the topic at the Chairman's discretion, and can only be reversed *by* a Chairman.

However, my reason for blacklisting Haelunor is thusly:
He quit the party in a temper tantrum because select party members got into office fair and square. I'm not going to act like what he did was okay or in the spirit of the party at all.

The Red-Greens uphold the idea that we treat all of our members with respect, dignity, regardless of if they're members of other parties. The Central Committee is open to *all* candidates that are registered members of the party, and it flies in the face of socialist brotherhood to be so petty as to threaten to resign because someone is elected to the CC when you have the full power to run against them. It is absolutely pointless to threat and then quit entirely because someone takes a democratic office completely within party rules and bylaws. It's attempting to bully the democratic system to your desires. That's why I have blacklisted him following his resignation from the party.

A future Chairman may reverse this blacklist, but it's staying as-is, unless someone has a good justification for the counter-point.

Haelunor wrote:I did not realize the Chairman was this petty.

If adding me to a silly little blacklist makes you feel better, go ahead.


You're not welcome here. Get out.
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Postby Pesda » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:52 am

Okay then. Can the chairman confirm that the whip on the ESA has enough support?
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
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