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Postby Mollary » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:54 am

But we seem to have no word for beer.
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:55 am

Wolfmanne wrote:It appears a whole load of us decided to do a political test. Here are some interesting results -

viewtopic.php?p=16295711#p16295711 - Mine
viewtopic.php?p=16296358#p16296358 - Nepal
viewtopic.php?p=16294160#p16294160 - SovCanuck
viewtopic.php?p=16294198#p16294198 - MV

Without a doubt, the best result must be IASM's:

viewtopic.php?p=16296401#p16296401


Mine:
Radicalism 99.5
Socialism 100
Tenderness 50

These scores indicate that you are a progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a university professor. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a pragmatic attitude towards humanity in general.

Your attitudes towards economics appear communist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as left-wing.

To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, an egalitarian with several strong opinions.

This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.


((I found the comment about the university professor quite funny. The idea of cultured and liberal-minded university professor applies to most, but the university professor I know best - my dad - is a Thatcherite and Tory. As you can probably guess from my 99.5% radicalism and 100% socialism, we sometimes disagree when it comes to politics.))
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Postby Mollary » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:58 am

Also; what is happening in terms of the Senate at the minute?
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:58 am

and here are my results. viewtopic.php?p=16298140#p16298140
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Postby Fulflood » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:02 am

Malgrave wrote:and here are my results. viewtopic.php?p=16298140#p16298140

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=16285274#p16285274
More centrist than thought, apparently. Also rather tender, take that as you may.

Mollary wrote:But we seem to have no word for beer.

This needs to be rectified. Immediately.
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:04 am

ANNOUNCEMENT

I am pleased to bring you the information that we have selected and confirmed the first two new members of the administration team. Please give your congratulations to Ainin and Of the Quendi.

-MV

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Postby Malgrave » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:07 am

Fulflood wrote:
Malgrave wrote:and here are my results. viewtopic.php?p=16298140#p16298140

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=16285274#p16285274
More centrist than thought, apparently. Also rather tender, take that as you may.

Mollary wrote:But we seem to have no word for beer.

This needs to be rectified. Immediately.


I've no idea what it even means.
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:13 am

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

I am pleased to bring you the information that we have selected and confirmed the first two new members of the administration team. Please give your congratulations to Ainin and Of the Quendi.

-MV


Congratulations to both of them! :clap:
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Postby Fulflood » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:16 am

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

I am pleased to bring you the information that we have selected and confirmed the first two new members of the administration team. Please give your congratulations to Ainin and Of the Quendi.

-MV

Both excellent choices; congratulations.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:30 am

New Bierstaat wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=16289003#p16289003

My explanation of the official opposition tax rate proposition.

Cheers.

Dr. Tom Schmidt
Deputy Leader of the Opposition

Bump.
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:35 am

New Bierstaat wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=16289003#p16289003

My explanation of the official opposition tax rate proposition.

Cheers.

Dr. Tom Schmidt
Deputy Leader of the Opposition

Bump.


I thought the opposition wanted flat taxes, but I'm not complaining. It's good to see you being progressive. The only problem I have which isn't political, as obviously I support higher taxes on the rich, is that it's too complicated. I, and probably most people on NS, can understand the maths behind it, but if a pensioner - who didn't have access to a computer and therefore no access to your calculator, as well as having their mathematical ability and memory worse than perhaps it used to be - tried to file taxes they might find it hard.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:43 am

Glasgia wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Bump.


I thought the opposition wanted flat taxes, but I'm not complaining. It's good to see you being progressive. The only problem I have which isn't political, as obviously I support higher taxes on the rich, is that it's too complicated. I, and probably most people on NS, can understand the maths behind it, but if a pensioner - who didn't have access to a computer and therefore no access to your calculator, as well as having their mathematical ability and memory worse than perhaps it used to be - tried to file taxes they might find it hard.

Actually we had no members of the opposition propose a flat tax. Two proposals other than mine were filed, one with a top bracket at 30% and one with a top bracket at 34%. Each yielded about 96 billion in projected revenue.

Honestly, for a pensioner sans computer, I think figuring out a bracketed tax system would be equally hard. There's a lot of steps involved (although I grant that a lot of the math is usually done for you on the form), and with my system there are only a few. Plus, most old people get people to do their taxes for them. Actually, in the USA there is a government-funded online service that will figure out your taxes for you (you don't have to use it, of course). I'd support creating that here also.
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Postby New Waterford » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:11 am

I've been away for a week. Have any major events happened while I was gone?
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Postby Divair » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:13 am

New Waterford wrote:I've been away for a week. Have any major events happened while I was gone?

We got nuked.

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Postby Malgrave » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:26 am

Divair wrote:
New Waterford wrote:I've been away for a week. Have any major events happened while I was gone?

We got nuked.


How could I know that sending a message to North Korea saying "come at me bro" would be a bad idea.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:28 am

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

I am pleased to bring you the information that we have selected and confirmed the first two new members of the administration team. Please give your congratulations to Ainin and Of the Quendi.

-MV

Congrats!
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Postby CTALNH » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:40 am

Divair wrote:
New Waterford wrote:I've been away for a week. Have any major events happened while I was gone?

We got nuked.

I was not involved in the nuking process.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:42 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:We got nuked.

I was not involved in the nuking process.

Right. We will not disclose the identity of the Fat Man that was responsible for this catastrophe.
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Postby Jetan » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:42 am

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

I am pleased to bring you the information that we have selected and confirmed the first two new members of the administration team. Please give your congratulations to Ainin and Of the Quendi.

-MV

Congrats!

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Divair wrote:We got nuked.

I was not involved in the nuking process.

I love how your first reaction to "we have been nuked" was "It wasn't me!" :lol:
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:11 am

Jetan wrote:
NSG Senate Administrators wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

I am pleased to bring you the information that we have selected and confirmed the first two new members of the administration team. Please give your congratulations to Ainin and Of the Quendi.

-MV

Congrats!

CTALNH wrote:I was not involved in the nuking process.

I love how your first reaction to "we have been nuked" was "It wasn't me!" :lol:

:lol2: He's on social probation right now and doesn't want to get blamed for anything else
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Postby New Bierstaat » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:21 am

Announcing here that I've figured my senator's net worth at £99 million. I figured he'd be a less wealthy and more rightist Herb Kohl, since both own chains of department stores and both are fairly influential Senators.

EDIT: Also, just about to start grad school today. Not sure what to expect.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:28 am

New Bierstaat wrote:Announcing here that I've figured my senator's net worth at £99 million. I figured he'd be a less wealthy and more rightist Herb Kohl, since both own chains of department stores and both are fairly influential Senators.

EDIT: Also, just about to start grad school today. Not sure what to expect.

Best of luck to you!
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Postby Deutsche Demokratische Republik » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:46 am

Belmaria wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Announcing here that I've figured my senator's net worth at £99 million. I figured he'd be a less wealthy and more rightist Herb Kohl, since both own chains of department stores and both are fairly influential Senators.

EDIT: Also, just about to start grad school today. Not sure what to expect.

Best of luck to you!


Do we have a list of Senators by wealth like forbes?
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:14 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
I thought the opposition wanted flat taxes, but I'm not complaining. It's good to see you being progressive. The only problem I have which isn't political, as obviously I support higher taxes on the rich, is that it's too complicated. I, and probably most people on NS, can understand the maths behind it, but if a pensioner - who didn't have access to a computer and therefore no access to your calculator, as well as having their mathematical ability and memory worse than perhaps it used to be - tried to file taxes they might find it hard.

Actually we had no members of the opposition propose a flat tax. Two proposals other than mine were filed, one with a top bracket at 30% and one with a top bracket at 34%. Each yielded about 96 billion in projected revenue.

Honestly, for a pensioner sans computer, I think figuring out a bracketed tax system would be equally hard. There's a lot of steps involved (although I grant that a lot of the math is usually done for you on the form), and with my system there are only a few. Plus, most old people get people to do their taxes for them. Actually, in the USA there is a government-funded online service that will figure out your taxes for you (you don't have to use it, of course). I'd support creating that here also.


Ok, fair enough in regards to tax. I thought Belmaria, kinda influential considering he's your leader, supported flat taxes.

The tax bracket system is simple and easy to use. If you lack the mental capacity to calculate it, the form helps you and a basic calculator will sort everything out. Your system requires either fairly advanced maths or a scientific calculator. I stick by with my idea that a pensioner without a computer and no family may have large amounts of trouble sorting this out. Though I may sound picky in my example, these people do exist and need to be catered for - an online system isn't much help if you don't have a computer. The same goes for families or individuals who can't afford a computer and lack in mathematical ability.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:23 pm

Glasgia wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Actually we had no members of the opposition propose a flat tax. Two proposals other than mine were filed, one with a top bracket at 30% and one with a top bracket at 34%. Each yielded about 96 billion in projected revenue.

Honestly, for a pensioner sans computer, I think figuring out a bracketed tax system would be equally hard. There's a lot of steps involved (although I grant that a lot of the math is usually done for you on the form), and with my system there are only a few. Plus, most old people get people to do their taxes for them. Actually, in the USA there is a government-funded online service that will figure out your taxes for you (you don't have to use it, of course). I'd support creating that here also.


Ok, fair enough in regards to tax. I thought Belmaria, kinda influential considering he's your leader, supported flat taxes.

The tax bracket system is simple and easy to use. If you lack the mental capacity to calculate it, the form helps you and a basic calculator will sort everything out. Your system requires either fairly advanced maths or a scientific calculator. I stick by with my idea that a pensioner without a computer and no family may have large amounts of trouble sorting this out. Though I may sound picky in my example, these people do exist and need to be catered for - an online system isn't much help if you don't have a computer. The same goes for families or individuals who can't afford a computer and lack in mathematical ability.

Can't those people just go to a library to use the Internet?
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