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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:17 am

Britanno wrote:Just realised, when I put in suggestions from others I never remembered to resubmit it to the coffee shop and seen as little seems to be happening I the coffee shop, may as well do it now.

Aurentine Youth Senate Act


Author: Britanno (PC)

Sponsors: Gothmogs (TR), Geilinor (LD)


UNDERSTANDING that Aurentine citizens under the legal voting age are not given a chance to have any part in our democracy.

AWARE that many young people feel left out of democracy and wish to have their voices heard by the government.

RECOGNISING that Article 12 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child declares that "every child has the right to say what they think in all matters affecting them, and to have their views taken seriously".

ESTABLISHES the Aurentina Youth Senate.

1. Youth Senators

a) In each constituency, one Youth Senator will be elected by the people under the legal voting age who live in that constituency.
b) All the Youth Senators in the country will meet on a monthly basis to debate and raise issues that young people are having.
c) The Senator and Youth Senator for each constituency should meet every fortnight to discuss issues that both adults and children are having in order to provide the best service possible to their constituents.

2. Youth Senate Powers

a) Youth Senate bills may be considered in the binding Aurentine legislature if sponsored by five national legislators in good standing.
b) The Youth Senate shall be able to meet with the Senate at least once every six months to give their say on how our nation is run.
c) The Youth Senate shall not have any active participation in the passing of bills in the Senate that were created by Senators.


This really isn't a good idea...
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:19 am

Rumostan wrote:
Britanno wrote:Just realised, when I put in suggestions from others I never remembered to resubmit it to the coffee shop and seen as little seems to be happening I the coffee shop, may as well do it now.

Aurentine Youth Senate Act


Author: Britanno (PC)

Sponsors: Gothmogs (TR), Geilinor (LD)


UNDERSTANDING that Aurentine citizens under the legal voting age are not given a chance to have any part in our democracy.

AWARE that many young people feel left out of democracy and wish to have their voices heard by the government.

RECOGNISING that Article 12 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child declares that "every child has the right to say what they think in all matters affecting them, and to have their views taken seriously".

ESTABLISHES the Aurentina Youth Senate.

1. Youth Senators

a) In each constituency, one Youth Senator will be elected by the people under the legal voting age who live in that constituency.
b) All the Youth Senators in the country will meet on a monthly basis to debate and raise issues that young people are having.
c) The Senator and Youth Senator for each constituency should meet every fortnight to discuss issues that both adults and children are having in order to provide the best service possible to their constituents.

2. Youth Senate Powers

a) Youth Senate bills may be considered in the binding Aurentine legislature if sponsored by five national legislators in good standing.
b) The Youth Senate shall be able to meet with the Senate at least once every six months to give their say on how our nation is run.
c) The Youth Senate shall not have any active participation in the passing of bills in the Senate that were created by Senators.


This really isn't a good idea...


How so? :)

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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:22 am

Battlion wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
This really isn't a good idea...


How so? :)


Oh actually, no don't worry. I thought this was the previous attempt which tried to give the Youth Senate the power to halt bills. I see no problems with this, I shall sponsor.
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Postby Liberated Counties » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:29 am

I'll sponsor the youth senate act. It'll be good to get youth more involved with how their nation is run.
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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:52 am

Ainin wrote:
Rumostan wrote:I would like to remind everyone that we use UTC and no Senator here can say that they are a special flower and use another time zone, we use it because it connects everyone irl and also because we are in UTC time because of our geographical position.

Actually, taking from our position, we are in Central European Time.

There's an act (Time Zone Act) in the queue, under Standards of Daily Measurement, proposing CET due to the fact everyone around us uses it.
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:54 am

Fulflood wrote:
Ainin wrote:Actually, taking from our position, we are in Central European Time.

There's an act (Time Zone Act) in the queue, under Standards of Daily Measurement, proposing CET due to the fact everyone around us uses it.


wtf is CET?

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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:57 am

Battlion wrote:
Fulflood wrote:There's an act (Time Zone Act) in the queue, under Standards of Daily Measurement, proposing CET due to the fact everyone around us uses it.


wtf is CET?

It wouldn't be particularly hard to a) Google it or b) guess from Ainin's above post.

But it's Central European Time.
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:17 am

Fulflood wrote:
Battlion wrote:
wtf is CET?

It wouldn't be particularly hard to a) Google it or b) guess from Ainin's above post.

But it's Central European Time.


We really should just use UTC... Universal

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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:18 am

Fulflood wrote:
Ainin wrote:Actually, taking from our position, we are in Central European Time.

There's an act (Time Zone Act) in the queue, under Standards of Daily Measurement, proposing CET due to the fact everyone around us uses it.


There is no need to use it, we have nothing to do with most of the countries around us and remember, the only reason most of them use CET is because of the EU which we are not in.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:28 am

Rumostan wrote:
Fulflood wrote:There's an act (Time Zone Act) in the queue, under Standards of Daily Measurement, proposing CET due to the fact everyone around us uses it.


There is no need to use it, we have nothing to do with most of the countries around us and remember, the only reason most of them use CET is because of the EU which we are not in.

We should use CET cause that's what everyone around us uses. Seriously, eurosceptism isn't an excuse for using a random time zone no one around us uses.

And Alegria, Tunisia and Switzerland aren't EU last time I checked.
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:30 am

Ainin wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
There is no need to use it, we have nothing to do with most of the countries around us and remember, the only reason most of them use CET is because of the EU which we are not in.

We should use CET cause that's what everyone around us uses. Seriously, eurosceptism isn't an excuse for using a random time zone no one around us uses.

And Alegria, Tunisia and Switzerland aren't EU last time I checked.


Yes, but for the sake of ease wouldn't it be just simpler to use UTC?

And, no I'm not eurosceptic

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Postby Ainin » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:34 am

Battlion wrote:
Ainin wrote:We should use CET cause that's what everyone around us uses. Seriously, eurosceptism isn't an excuse for using a random time zone no one around us uses.

And Alegria, Tunisia and Switzerland aren't EU last time I checked.


Yes, but for the sake of ease wouldn't it be just simpler to use UTC?

And, no I'm not eurosceptic

If were making it easier, we would use CET. Everyone else around us uses it, and using UTC+0 would just be a mess.
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:36 am

Ainin wrote:
Battlion wrote:
Yes, but for the sake of ease wouldn't it be just simpler to use UTC?

And, no I'm not eurosceptic

If were making it easier, we would use CET. Everyone else around us uses it, and using UTC+0 would just be a mess.


Fair enough, I concede :)

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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:37 am

Ainin wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
There is no need to use it, we have nothing to do with most of the countries around us and remember, the only reason most of them use CET is because of the EU which we are not in.

We should use CET cause that's what everyone around us uses. Seriously, eurosceptism isn't an excuse for using a random time zone no one around us uses.

And Alegria, Tunisia and Switzerland aren't EU last time I checked.


I'm not a eurosceptic. Also, Switzerland has a better reason, they are surrounded by people who use it and only have links with countries that do. We trade with Russia and Britain as well as Libya and Italy does that mean that we should Russian time because they are one of our biggest trading partners? Time zones are to be used to boost our economy, not so we are like sheep.
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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:47 am

Rumostan wrote:
Ainin wrote:We should use CET cause that's what everyone around us uses. Seriously, eurosceptism isn't an excuse for using a random time zone no one around us uses.

And Alegria, Tunisia and Switzerland aren't EU last time I checked.


I'm not a eurosceptic. Also, Switzerland has a better reason, they are surrounded by people who use it

So are we.
Rumostan wrote:and only have links with countries that do.

Not substantially more than us.
Rumostan wrote:We trade with Russia and Britain as well as Libya and Italy does that mean that we should Russian time because they are one of our biggest trading partners?

No, because that's not why people have time zones.
Rumostan wrote:Time zones are to be used to boost our economy, not so we are like sheep.

No, they're used to keep morning in the morning and afternoon in the afternoon worldwide. Were they used only for economic purposes, Hong Kong, for example, would use a timezone which was upwards of 8 hours out.
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Postby The Realm of God » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:50 am

Fulflood wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
I'm not a eurosceptic. Also, Switzerland has a better reason, they are surrounded by people who use it

So are we.
Rumostan wrote:and only have links with countries that do.

Not substantially more than us.
Rumostan wrote:We trade with Russia and Britain as well as Libya and Italy does that mean that we should Russian time because they are one of our biggest trading partners?

No, because that's not why people have time zones.
Rumostan wrote:Time zones are to be used to boost our economy, not so we are like sheep.

No, they're used to keep morning in the morning and afternoon in the afternoon worldwide. Were they used only for economic purposes, Hong Kong, for example, would use a timezone which was upwards of 8 hours out.


Use the geographicly appropriate Time Zone anything else doesn't make any sense.
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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:51 am

Fulflood wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
I'm not a eurosceptic. Also, Switzerland has a better reason, they are surrounded by people who use it

So are we.
Rumostan wrote:and only have links with countries that do.

Not substantially more than us.
Rumostan wrote:We trade with Russia and Britain as well as Libya and Italy does that mean that we should Russian time because they are one of our biggest trading partners?

No, because that's not why people have time zones.
Rumostan wrote:Time zones are to be used to boost our economy, not so we are like sheep.

No, they're used to keep morning in the morning and afternoon in the afternoon worldwide. Were they used only for economic purposes, Hong Kong, for example, would use a timezone which was upwards of 8 hours out.


Why did Spain stop using UTC? To keep its ties with Germany.

We are not surrounded like Switzerland.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:58 am

The Realm of God wrote:Use the geographicly appropriate Time Zone anything else doesn't make any sense.

So, CET.
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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:59 am

Rumostan wrote:
Fulflood wrote:So are we.

Not substantially more than us.

No, because that's not why people have time zones.

No, they're used to keep morning in the morning and afternoon in the afternoon worldwide. Were they used only for economic purposes, Hong Kong, for example, would use a timezone which was upwards of 8 hours out.


Why did Spain stop using UTC? To keep its ties with Germany.

We are not surrounded like Switzerland.

You know where we are, yes?
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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:14 am

Fulflood wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
Why did Spain stop using UTC? To keep its ties with Germany.

We are not surrounded like Switzerland.

You know where we are, yes?


Yes, which means we have less to do with mainland Europe and we can trade with overseas nations, we don't need CET.
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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:30 am

Rumostan wrote:
Fulflood wrote:You know where we are, yes?


Yes, which means we have less to do with mainland Europe and we can trade with overseas nations, we don't need CET.

Time zones are not about trade, end of.
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Postby Britanno » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:42 am

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Postby Britcan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:43 am

Britanno wrote:I think we should just leave this with the admins.

The time zone we set our country to is up to the Senate.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Britanno » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:45 am

Britcan wrote:
Britanno wrote:I think we should just leave this with the admins.

The time zone we set our country to is up to the Senate.


OOC: Well I clearly got the wrong end of the stick here because I thought we were debating what time we should use for things like when bills end, not what Aurentina actually uses. My bad.
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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:57 am

Fulflood wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
Yes, which means we have less to do with mainland Europe and we can trade with overseas nations, we don't need CET.

Time zones are not about trade, end of.


So why did Spain and France change from UTC to CET when they are in the same timezone as the UK? Why does Iceland use UTC? The answer is easier trade.
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Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
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Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
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