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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:40 pm

Private fire departments? What the hell pretty sure we do not have anything as stupid as that.
Also under ETC you are making it easy for us to classify just about everything as part of restrictions.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:02 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Private fire departments? What the hell pretty sure we do not have anything as stupid as that.
Also under ETC you are making it easy for us to classify just about everything as part of restrictions.

Private fire departments? No. That's an awful idea, private ambulances yes.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:09 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Private fire departments? What the hell pretty sure we do not have anything as stupid as that.
Also under ETC you are making it easy for us to classify just about everything as part of restrictions.

Private fire departments? No. That's an awful idea, private ambulances yes.


It's just an example. For now.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:48 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Private fire departments? No. That's an awful idea, private ambulances yes.


It's just an example. For now.

Well voting against such nonsense that only the libertarians can think of...
Same goes with this. Eminent domain always grants the people that have their property taken from them full market value. In case you do not know.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:37 pm

This is a joke bill that's not going to be tabled.

A Ban on Coronation Street

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Affirming that the British television programme Coronation Street is boring as shit,

Noting that the slow-paced action in the series is more boring than watching paint dry in a tropical rainforest,

Declaring that no one should have to endure the pain of watching bad soap operas,

Hereby outlaws the series Coronation Street.
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Postby Unicario » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:41 pm

Ainin wrote:This is a joke bill that's not going to be tabled.

A Ban on Coronation Street

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Affirming that the British television programme Coronation Street is boring as shit,

Noting that the slow-paced action in the series is more boring than watching paint dry in a tropical rainforest,

Declaring that no one should have to endure the pain of watching bad soap operas,

Hereby outlaws the series Coronation Street.


Can we add a provision that only allows if it involves men in drag?

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Postby Phocidaea » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:46 pm

Ainin wrote:This is a joke bill that's not going to be tabled.

A Ban on Coronation Street

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Affirming that the British television programme Coronation Street is boring as shit,

Noting that the slow-paced action in the series is more boring than watching paint dry in a tropical rainforest,

Declaring that no one should have to endure the pain of watching bad soap operas,

Hereby outlaws the series Coronation Street.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:01 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
It's just an example. For now.

Well voting against such nonsense that only the libertarians can think of...
Same goes with this. Eminent domain always grants the people that have their property taken from them full market value. In case you do not know.


ORLY
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:10 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Well voting against such nonsense that only the libertarians can think of...
Same goes with this. Eminent domain always grants the people that have their property taken from them full market value. In case you do not know.


ORLY

just compensation" is "fair market value," i.e., the price that a willing but unpressured buyer would pay a willing but unpressured seller in a voluntary transaction
You value it one way. The market values it other way. Or you want the price of the person to be paid?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:11 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
ORLY

just compensation" is "fair market value," i.e., the price that a willing but unpressured buyer would pay a willing but unpressured seller in a voluntary transaction
You value it one way. The market values it other way. Or you want the price of the person to be paid?


Have you read it below?
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Postby Oneracon » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:12 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Well voting against such nonsense that only the libertarians can think of...
Same goes with this. Eminent domain always grants the people that have their property taken from them full market value. In case you do not know.


ORLY

From your own source:

..."just compensation" is "fair market value," i.e., the price that a willing but unpressured buyer would pay a willing but unpressured seller in a voluntary transaction, with both parties fully informed of the property's good and bad features. Also, this approach takes into account the property's highest and best use (i.e., its most profitable use) which is not necessarily its current use or the use mandated by current zoning if there is a reasonable probability of zone change.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:17 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
ORLY

From your own source:

..."just compensation" is "fair market value," i.e., the price that a willing but unpressured buyer would pay a willing but unpressured seller in a voluntary transaction, with both parties fully informed of the property's good and bad features. Also, this approach takes into account the property's highest and best use (i.e., its most profitable use) which is not necessarily its current use or the use mandated by current zoning if there is a reasonable probability of zone change.


It's not a voluntary interaction, first of all.

and

This measure of compensation has been severely criticized because it omits from consideration a variety of incidental economic losses that a taking of land inflicts on its owners when they are evicted from their homes and businesses. The most egregious example of such uncompensated losses is provided by the American law that denies any compensation to owners of businesses that are destroyed when land on which they are located is taken, and the business cannot relocate. A small minority of states have provided by statute that at least some business losses are compensable.


If a business is doing successful in an area, probably due to traffic, and the government takes that away, how can they accurately determine the net loss of money if they are relocated to an area with less traffic over an extended time span?
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:18 pm

Criminal Negligence Act


| Author: New Zepuha [ALM] | Sponsors: The Neo-Confederate States of America [ANL], Oneracon [RG]| Category: Order | Urgency: Low |




Section 0. Preamble -

Believing that fleeing an area in which a crime or accident has occurred is a great danger to public order. Those who knowingly are involved in a vehicular accident and flee without consulting officials or refusing aide to people they have purposefully ignored, should be punished accordingly. This bill is with intent to ensure the broad safety of motorists.

Section 1. Fleeing the Scene of an Accident -

When a motor vehicle accident has occurred, by any number of vehicles people involved in this crash may not flee the scene without a relevant medical issue that would justify their fleeing. Otherwise, those who know they have been involved in an accident must remain, check the safety of the other motorists [if possible], and contact the relevant authorities. Anyone witnessing said accident and are able to safely pull to the side of the road must stop to aide or contact relevant authorities [chiefly the police and fire department]. Prosecution must be able to prove that someone knowingly fled the scene of an accident.

Section 2. Criminal Offences Relating to Criminal Negligence -

Fleeing The Scene of an Accident - Anyone who knowingly flees the scene of an accident without a pressing need for medical attention, is held liable for the crime of negligence. Such as if car A crashes into the rear of B and the driver of A or B flees the scene. This can be a Delict or Contravention depending on the severity, to be determined by the judges.

This includes complicity in said crime.


Hereby signs into law and passes the Criminal Negligence Act
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:19 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
ORLY


You value it one way. The market values it other way. Or you want the price of the person to be paid?

So know you don't know that property appraisal is a profession? We have people who price property for a living.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:21 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Oneracon wrote:From your own source:

..."just compensation" is "fair market value," i.e., the price that a willing but unpressured buyer would pay a willing but unpressured seller in a voluntary transaction, with both parties fully informed of the property's good and bad features. Also, this approach takes into account the property's highest and best use (i.e., its most profitable use) which is not necessarily its current use or the use mandated by current zoning if there is a reasonable probability of zone change.


It's not a voluntary interaction, first of all.

It doesn't have to be. When you calculate fair market value, you predict what it would go for on the market.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:03 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
You value it one way. The market values it other way. Or you want the price of the person to be paid?

So know you don't know that property appraisal is a profession? We have people who price property for a living.

Geil I know. I was just pointing it out to him. The market are those people... But apparently he wants your price to be paid.
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Postby Oneracon » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:06 pm

I'll sponsor the Criminal Negligence Act
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:22 pm

Bringing this back...

Partisan Politics Act
An Act to apply standards with the goal of ensuring proper recognition of political affiliation

Urgency: Moderate | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Senate Procedures
Sponsors: Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Geilinor [NDP], Yanalia [RG], Malgrave [MSP]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

APPLAUDING the wide variety of political parties, official and unofficial, that represent the diversity of the Aurentine political spectrum in the Senate;

CONCERNED that the current lack of regulation has led to situations where Senators are members of opposing parties and coalitions, as well as the creation of parties that are entirely made up of Senators with an existing affiliation;

NONETHELESS AFFIRMING the freedom to create and join political parties;

SEEKING to develop a compromise to improve upon the current system while maintaining a Senator's freedom to support as many parties of their choice;

HEREBY ENACTS the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act, "political party" shall be defined as a group of Senators who voluntarily join together as an organization that espouses a specific political ideology or ideologies.
  2. For the purposes of this Act, "Senate" shall be defined as the Senate of Aurentina.
  3. For the purposes of this Act, "Senator" shall be defined as a member of the Senate.
  4. For the purposes of this Act, "official political party" shall be defined as a political party recognized as having sufficient support to be accorded recognition by the Senate.

    Membership Classes
  5. All political parties shall create two classes of membership: "Official" and "Honorary".
    1. Official memberships shall used to recognize a Senator's primary political party; and
    2. Honorary memberships shall be used to recognize symbolic support for additional political parties.
    On the Holding of Different Membership Classes
  6. Each Senator may hold Official membership in one (1) political party in the Senate.
  7. There shall be no limit to the number of Honorary memberships a Senator may hold.

    Party Leadership
  8. The leader of a political party shall be required to be an Official member of said party.

    Official Party Status
  9. Political parties require ten (10) Official members to be declared an official political party.
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Postby Yanalia » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:23 pm

I'll sponsor that now that I've thought about it, Oneracon.
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Postby Malgrave » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:25 pm

Oneracon wrote:Bringing this back...

Oneracon wrote:Repost because it got bottom-paged:

I present a compromise bill that would help to clarify political affiliations, while still allowing Senators to declare their support for as many political parties as they choose.

Partisan Politics Act
An Act to apply standards with the goal of ensuring proper recognition of political affiliation

Urgency: Moderate | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Senate Procedures
Sponsors: Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Geilinor [NDP]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

APPLAUDING the wide variety of political parties, official and unofficial, that represent the diversity of the Aurentine political spectrum in the Senate;

CONCERNED that the current lack of regulation has led to situations where Senators are members of opposing parties and coalitions, as well as the creation of parties that are entirely made up of Senators with an existing affiliation;

NONETHELESS AFFIRMING the freedom to create and join political parties;

SEEKING to develop a compromise to improve upon the current system while maintaining a Senator's freedom to support as many parties of their choice;

HEREBY ENACTS the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act, "political party" shall be defined as a group of Senators who voluntarily join together as an organization that espouses a specific political ideology or ideologies.
  2. For the purposes of this Act, "Senate" shall be defined as the Senate of Aurentina.
  3. For the purposes of this Act, "Senator" shall be defined as a member of the Senate.
  4. For the purposes of this Act, "official political party" shall be defined as a political party recognized as having sufficient support to be accorded recognition by the Senate.

    Membership Classes
  5. All political parties shall create two classes of membership: "Official" and "Honorary".
    1. Official memberships shall used to recognize a Senator's primary political party; and
    2. Honorary memberships shall be used to recognize symbolic support for additional political parties.
    On the Holding of Different Membership Classes
  6. Each Senator may hold Official membership in one (1) political party in the Senate.
  7. There shall be no limit to the number of Honorary memberships a Senator may hold.

    Party Leadership
  8. The leader of a political party shall be required to be an Official member of said party.

    Official Party Status
  9. Political parties require ten (10) Official members to be declared an official political party.


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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:50 pm

The only thing about that bill I support is the membership limit, otherwise all that stuff is useless fluff that parties already do. Parties should choose their own policies, not be mandated to go a certain way.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:57 pm

New Zepuha wrote:The only thing about that bill I support is the membership limit, otherwise all that stuff is useless fluff that parties already do. Parties should choose their own policies, not be mandated to go a certain way.

The "useless fluff" is what backs up the membership limit. :eyebrow:
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:58 pm

Oneracon wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:The only thing about that bill I support is the membership limit, otherwise all that stuff is useless fluff that parties already do. Parties should choose their own policies, not be mandated to go a certain way.

The "useless fluff" is what backs up the membership limit. :eyebrow:


What if they want outside members to lead the party?
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Postby Ainin » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:00 pm

Oneracon wrote:The leader of a political party shall be required to be an Official member of said party.

The Rhinoceros Party opposes this.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:02 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Oneracon wrote:The "useless fluff" is what backs up the membership limit. :eyebrow:


What if they want outside members to lead the party?

Then what is the point of creating the separate party? If the ideologies are so similar then they don't need to be separate parties, or it shouldn't be a hassle for one outside party member to shift their official membership.
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