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Should Aurentina have a warm or cold culture?

Warm
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33%
Cold
9
23%
In-between
13
33%
Depends on the individual
3
8%
Depends on the situation
2
5%
 
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:44 pm

I think it depends on the situation. It can certainly be important in some circumstances to be warm and relationship oriented, such as when you have a guest. Other times, when there's something to get done, it should be task oriented.
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Postby Glasgia » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:16 am

Diopolis wrote:I put up a poll to determine if Aurentina should have a warm(relationship oriented) or cold(task oriented) culture. Please vote, and then it'll go into the OP.


Well, we're a mix between German, Italian and British. German can be stereotyped as cold and efficient, which they bloody well can be, but most of the Germans I know are in fact very friendly, when they're not working that is. Italians, however, play up to their stereotype. Very friendly, very welcoming, very loud. British, well, we just don't stop complaining. About everything. To be honest, being British I wouldn't slot us into either category and say it really depends on the individual.

There's my little summary. Therefore, I'd go for our people being fairly friendly on average, but not always. Down to the individual.
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Postby Fulflood » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:51 am

I'd say pretty laid-back, although a little insular, but generally warm and pretty accepting of everyone, due to living sort of in the crossroads of the world. This is just based on geography really.
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Postby Glasgia » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:52 am

Some demographics I made, mainly from other people's work:

Demographics
National Population: 60,000,000
1. Leishaagen (5,227,000)
2. Katrinësborg (3,471,000)
3. Harstelvoor (2,862,000)
4. Singëlen (2,626,000)
5. Eswelle (2,421,000)
6. Weilënze (1,649,000)
7. Söndal (1,380,000)
8. Sant-Kläüdia (1,177,000)
9. Sant-Johannesborg (941,000)
10. Nüvelfoort (923,000)
11. Sant-Jülia (819,000)
12. Vedersid (692,000)
13. Rökinsmünd (655,000)
14. Emmelo (604,000)
15. Sant-Elmospoort (596,000)
16. Röhelborg (547,000)

Protestant 29%
    Anglican 20.5%
    Presbyterian 4.5%
    Other 4%
Catholic 20%
Muslim 7%
Orthodox 2%
    Eastern 1.8%
    Oriental 0.2%
Jewish 0.8%
Hindu 0.5%
Buddhist 0.2%
Other 0.5%
Irreligious 40%

First Lanaguage
English 75.1%
Aurentine 11.7%
Arabic 4.9%
    Egyptian Arabic 1.1%
    Tunisian Arabic 1.0%
    Algerian Arabic 0.7%
    Libyan Arabic 0.6%
    Other 1.5%
Italian 2.8%
French 0.6%
Berber 0.5%
Punjab 0.4%
Spanish 0.3%
Hindi 0.2%
Other 3.1%

Caucasian 85.3%
    White Aurentine 61.2%
    White British 18.3%
    White Italian 12.1%
    White French 0.9%
    White Spanish 0.6%
    White Other 1.2%
Arabic 11.4%
    Aurento-Arabic 5.1%
    Egyptian 1.8%
    Tunisian 1.6%
    Algerian 1.4%
    Libyan 1.2%
    Other 0.3%
Indo-Ayran
    Indian 0.6%
    Pakistani 0.5%
    Other 0.3%
Other 1.9%
[list]Nigerian 0.4%
Afghan 0.3%
Iraqi 0.2%
Somalian 0.2%
Other 0.8%
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Postby Fulflood » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:55 am

Glasgia wrote:Some demographics I made, mainly from other people's work:

Demographics
National Population: 60,000,000
1) Leishaagen (7,840,000)
2) Katrinësborg (5,206,000)
3) Harstelvoor (4,293,000)
4) Singëlen (3,939,000)
5) Eswelle (3,632,000)
6) Weilënze (2,473,00)
7) Söndal (2,070,000)
8) Sant-Kläüdia (1,676,000)
9) Sant-Johannesborg (1,412,000)
10) Nüvelfoort (1,384,000)
11) Sant-Jülia (1,228,000)
12) Vedersid (1,038,000)
12) Rökinsmünd (983,000)
13) Emmelo (906,000)
14) Sant-Elmospoort (894,000)
15) Röhelborg (821,000)

Protestant 29%
    Anglican 20.5%
    Presbyterian 4.5%
    Other 4%
Catholic 20%
Muslim 7%
Orthodox 2%
    Eastern 1.8%
    Oriental 0.2%
Jewish 0.8%
Hindu 0.5%
Buddhist 0.2%
Other 0.5%
Irreligious 40%

First Lanaguage
English 75.1%
Aurentine 11.7%
Arabic 4.9%
    Egyptian Arabic 1.1%
    Tunisian Arabic 1.0%
    Algerian Arabic 0.7%
    Libyan Arabic 0.6%
    Other 1.5%
Italian 2.8%
French 0.6%
Berber 0.5%
Punjab 0.4%
Spanish 0.3%
Hindi 0.2%
Other 3.1%

Caucasian 85.3%
    White Aurentine 61.2%
    White British 18.3%
    White Italian 12.1%
    White French 0.9%
    White Spanish 0.6%
    White Other 1.2%
Arabic 11.4%
    Aurento-Arabic 5.1%
    Egyptian 1.8%
    Tunisian 1.6%
    Algerian 1.4%
    Libyan 1.2%
    Other 0.3%
Indo-Ayran
    Indian 0.6%
    Pakistani 0.5%
    Other 0.3%
Other 1.9%
[list]Nigerian 0.4%
Afghan 0.3%
Iraqi 0.2%
Somalian 0.2%
Other 0.8%

We agreed somewhere in the thread to divide each city population by 2/3, because otherwise it makes 70% of total population, which is pretty unrealistic.
So they would look like this:
1. Leishaagen (5,227,000)
2. Katrinësborg (3,471,000)
3. Harstelvoor (2,862,000)
4. Singëlen (2,626,000)
5. Eswelle (2,421,000)
6. Weilënze (1,649,000)
7. Söndal (1,380,000)
8. Sant-Kläüdia (1,177,000)
9. Sant-Johannesborg (941,000)
10. Nüvelfoort (923,000)
11. Sant-Jülia (819,000)
12. Vedersid (692,000)
13. Rökinsmünd (655,000)
14. Emmelo (604,000)
15. Sant-Elmospoort (596,000)
16. Röhelborg (547,000)
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Postby Glasgia » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:00 am

Fulflood wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Some demographics I made, mainly from other people's work:

Demographics
National Population: 60,000,000
1) Leishaagen (7,840,000)
2) Katrinësborg (5,206,000)
3) Harstelvoor (4,293,000)
4) Singëlen (3,939,000)
5) Eswelle (3,632,000)
6) Weilënze (2,473,00)
7) Söndal (2,070,000)
8) Sant-Kläüdia (1,676,000)
9) Sant-Johannesborg (1,412,000)
10) Nüvelfoort (1,384,000)
11) Sant-Jülia (1,228,000)
12) Vedersid (1,038,000)
12) Rökinsmünd (983,000)
13) Emmelo (906,000)
14) Sant-Elmospoort (894,000)
15) Röhelborg (821,000)

Protestant 29%
    Anglican 20.5%
    Presbyterian 4.5%
    Other 4%
Catholic 20%
Muslim 7%
Orthodox 2%
    Eastern 1.8%
    Oriental 0.2%
Jewish 0.8%
Hindu 0.5%
Buddhist 0.2%
Other 0.5%
Irreligious 40%

First Lanaguage
English 75.1%
Aurentine 11.7%
Arabic 4.9%
    Egyptian Arabic 1.1%
    Tunisian Arabic 1.0%
    Algerian Arabic 0.7%
    Libyan Arabic 0.6%
    Other 1.5%
Italian 2.8%
French 0.6%
Berber 0.5%
Punjab 0.4%
Spanish 0.3%
Hindi 0.2%
Other 3.1%

Caucasian 85.3%
    White Aurentine 61.2%
    White British 18.3%
    White Italian 12.1%
    White French 0.9%
    White Spanish 0.6%
    White Other 1.2%
Arabic 11.4%
    Aurento-Arabic 5.1%
    Egyptian 1.8%
    Tunisian 1.6%
    Algerian 1.4%
    Libyan 1.2%
    Other 0.3%
Indo-Ayran
    Indian 0.6%
    Pakistani 0.5%
    Other 0.3%
Other 1.9%
[list]Nigerian 0.4%
Afghan 0.3%
Iraqi 0.2%
Somalian 0.2%
Other 0.8%

We agreed somewhere in the thread to divide each city population by 2/3, because otherwise it makes 70% of total population, which is pretty unrealistic.
So they would look like this:
1. Leishaagen (5,227,000)
2. Katrinësborg (3,471,000)
3. Harstelvoor (2,862,000)
4. Singëlen (2,626,000)
5. Eswelle (2,421,000)
6. Weilënze (1,649,000)
7. Söndal (1,380,000)
8. Sant-Kläüdia (1,177,000)
9. Sant-Johannesborg (941,000)
10. Nüvelfoort (923,000)
11. Sant-Jülia (819,000)
12. Vedersid (692,000)
13. Rökinsmünd (655,000)
14. Emmelo (604,000)
15. Sant-Elmospoort (596,000)
16. Röhelborg (547,000)


Ok, cool. I'll edit it.
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Postby The Realm of God » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:55 pm

I'd say something like German, a very cold Protestant Work Ethic and a very warm and laidback social culture (the Germans are ridiculously friendly when off work, or that's my experience at least.)
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There's a national anthem in the pipeline, by the way.
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Postby Potenco » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:37 pm

Do you think it would be smart to add Lutheranism as a major religous preference is Aurentinia. It would make sense considering its reigion (even if they have the most boring churches)
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Potenco wrote:Do you think it would be smart to add Lutheranism as a major religous preference is Aurentinia. It would make sense considering its reigion (even if they have the most boring churches)

Not really. While we are germanic we arnt close to germany, therefore lutheranism would not have spread to us
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Potenco wrote:Do you think it would be smart to add Lutheranism as a major religous preference is Aurentinia. It would make sense considering its reigion (even if they have the most boring churches)

I think Aurentina was Germanic pre-Reformation.
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Potenco wrote:Do you think it would be smart to add Lutheranism as a major religous preference is Aurentinia. It would make sense considering its reigion (even if they have the most boring churches)

Not really. While we are germanic we arnt close to germany, therefore lutheranism would not have spread to us


I still think that there are far too many Anglicans on the list, unless there was a large influx of Old Country English it wouldn't of happened as Anglicanism never spread in British Colonies the way Methodism and Calvinism did, with the exception of Africa because Anglicans got there first and the native peoples developed an affinity for it.
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Potenco wrote:Do you think it would be smart to add Lutheranism as a major religous preference is Aurentinia. It would make sense considering its reigion (even if they have the most boring churches)

Not really. While we are germanic we arnt close to germany, therefore lutheranism would not have spread to us

And besides, not all germanic countries are Lutheran. Austria and Belgium are catholic and the Netherlands is calvinist.
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The Realm of God wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Not really. While we are germanic we arnt close to germany, therefore lutheranism would not have spread to us


I still think that there are far too many Anglicans on the list, unless there was a large influx of Old Country English it wouldn't of happened as Anglicanism never spread in British Colonies the way Methodism and Calvinism did, with the exception of Africa because Anglicans got there first and the native peoples developed an affinity for it.

You could raise the number of calvinists/orthodox christians. That would take alot of anglicanism

But anglicanism should still be the dominant protestant demonination though, you know, 400 years of colonial rule
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Is there a full map here yet?
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The Nihilistic view wrote:Is there a full map here yet?

The full map with or without constituencies?
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The Nihilistic view wrote:Is there a full map here yet?

The full map with or without constituencies?


I wanted without, I managed to find it though so don't worry.
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Byzantium Imperial wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
I still think that there are far too many Anglicans on the list, unless there was a large influx of Old Country English it wouldn't of happened as Anglicanism never spread in British Colonies the way Methodism and Calvinism did, with the exception of Africa because Anglicans got there first and the native peoples developed an affinity for it.

You could raise the number of calvinists/orthodox christians. That would take alot of anglicanism

But anglicanism should still be the dominant protestant demonination though, you know, 400 years of colonial rule


Unless there was a huge English emigration then I just don't see it.
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The Realm of God wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:You could raise the number of calvinists/orthodox christians. That would take alot of anglicanism

But anglicanism should still be the dominant protestant demonination though, you know, 400 years of colonial rule


Unless there was a huge English emigration then I just don't see it.


Apart from, you know, the fact that Catholicism or any kind of non-conformist Protestantism was in practice illegal under many of the Penal Laws, I don't see any reason why four hundred years of colonial rule would establish the Anglican church at least equally to the Catholic church.
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The History of the Island of Aurentina
By Micheal Kallinos and Robert Glasgia

Chapter 4: Of the Isles


Aurentina was a huge asset to the Scottish crown. Though still damaged by the war, it was huge in comparison to Scotland itself and maintained healthy trade. The occupying forces were ordered not to provoke locals, at risk of losing a huge amount of funds. Though occupied by Scottish soldiers, Aurentina was even given semi-autonomy under a Governor-General appointed by the king. The first Aurentian Governor-General was Ludwig von Tyrannien, a distant descendant of the old royalty and pro-British.

During British rule, Aurentina slowly entered a period of economic recession. Though the effects were low, over the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries Aurentina gradually lost its status as a major trading power. The seizure of their navy by England left the island scarcely protected by a small Scottish fleet and the Barbary pirates were known to terrorise trade ports. Though the economy could recover from each minor raid, it was weak and needed a spark to set it into flames. Heavy investment into the doomed Darien expedition did so. With the collapse of their fatherland’s economy, Aurentian traders were left bare of cash and fell too. In 1706, English troops were called in to restore order to the island and, the next year, Aurentina soon became a part of a greater British nation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain.

Unification with the rest of Great Britain had many benefits for Aurentina, most importantly the arrival of a larger navy in order to protect their trade. However, without immediate access to the protection they sought, Aurentian merchants actually faced an increase in danger to their voyage: Aurentina had been dragged into the War of the Spanish Succession. Though Spain never managed to take military action against Aurentina, they severely damaged trade routes during the war.

With the Treaty of Utrecht and cease of hostilities in 1713, the Aurentina economy had collapsed. A small banking initiative that had looked to prosper abroad now was dragged down by debts at home. Traders, unable to repair the damage done to ships by the Spaniards, were now even easier prey for the rampant Barbary pirates. In a show of the grip they had over Aurentina, a group of roughly a hundred Tunisian pirates managed to raid and plunder, before raising the Ottoman flag and leaving.

Many blamed not only the English for the conditions in which they now lived and worked, but the new Hanoverian kings. The Jacobite cause became popular in Aurentina. During the ’15 rising, a small group of Aurento-Scots students managed to expel their teachers and emblazon the Stuart coat of arms on the side of the Leishaagen University’s Social History block. They were promptly subject to siege by a company of the 3rd Regiment of Horse and surrendered ten days later to be executed by firing squad. Though the harsh punishment shocked many, it also quelled the risings for a while.

However, the resentment was still there. Aurentina had been a Scottish colony for over a hundred years, and almost a hundred prosperous years, yet for the eight years under British rule they had been subject to famines and destruction. With the arrival of the British navy and increased guard over Aurentian waters and ports, the pirate situation began to die down. It was too late. The damage had been done and people wanted a return to the old ways. In 1737, Charles Edward Stuart - “The Young Pretender” or “Bonnie Prince Charlie” – managed to organise a secret meeting of some of the lords still loyal to the cause of his father, James Stuart, as King James III of the Kingdom of Great Britain.

Even the Governor-General, Graham von Tyrannien, was in favour of a return to the old king. His ancestors had held the title for years, despite being openly Catholic until the “Glorious Revolution”, and effectively ruled the island independent of the crown, though they were still bound by parliament. In 1744, having been informed of a possible French invasion of England and the restoration of James, he ordered the creation of three new regiments from those already under his command. In his letter to parliament, he claimed that numbers were swelling and his officers suffered organisational problems. In truth, his Generals were ordered to select those loyal to the Jacobite cause from the towns, villages and regiments to form a new army to fight for James. With secret support from the French, von Tyrannien managed to make sure the Jacobites were better fed and better armed. He then petitioned to parliament to send his surplus men, a mixture of Aurentian Protestants and English soldiers, on an expedition to Africa. Whether parliament knew his motives or simply thought it would be too costly, they refused.

With Prince Charlie in Scotland, the Aurentian uprising followed. In the “Massacre of the Jacobites”, it was not the Jacobites who were massacred. In the night, the newly formed regiments infiltrated their fellow soldier’s camps and began slaughtering the unprepared men. Out of initially seven thousand “un-loyal” soldiers, only half survived.

Within weeks, the Jacobites had a firm grip on the capital and its surrounding area. Many of the Aurentians did not see the rebellion as a Stuart uprising; They saw it as a chance to rid Aurentina from Great Britain, if only into Scottish hands.

However, it did not last long. Von Tyrannien did not have enough troops to easily defeat the re-organised British and did not want to risk the loss of Leishaagen, an event that could end the rebellion. Conversely, the British did not want to assault the city’s walls. This led to months of fierce skirmish over supply lines to the capital. While at first the Jacobites held the upper hand, cutting off one supply line could lead to enough weakness to cut another. The arrival of a small fleet from Portsmouth managed to stop French aid, the only source of ammunition. Jacobite leaders started to become more conservative with their ammunition, resulting in multiple retreats. This in turn allowed the British forces to starve and occupy many Jacobite towns, leaving Leishaagen alone in its commitment to the cause.

The full reinforcement of the British regiments in Aurentina and the retreat of the Jacobite army in Britain left a dent in morale. Though Von Tyrannien’s commanders attempted to suppress the information from spreading among the soldier’s, the commanders themselves knew about it well enough. Graham Von Tyrannien’s brother, Joseph, was one of these commanders. Many agreed that, though they still held Leishaagen, the revolution had failed. Finding a suitable young soldier, Joseph paid for the assassination of Graham. Shot in the chest twice before guards seized the killer, Graham was succeeded by his brother immediately on January 14th 1746. Two days later, the starved Jacobite garrison surrendered control of the city.

As the Hanoverian monarchy established full control over Aurentina once more, the Aurentian people survived the persecution that their Scottish counterparts did for two major reasons. Firstly, there was no obvious target of the oppression. Catholicism matched the Anglican church, despite oppression for years before. Local government already enforced most of the Penal Laws, with the only law not enforced, the Convecticle Act, near impossible to impose upon the people. Next, the Aurentians that rebelled differed barely from those that did not. Unlike the Scottish Jacobites, there was no, largely romanticised image of a, distinctive culture which had risen. With no symbol of the rebellion to oppress, there could be no oppression.
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Sorry it's late, but I just kinda forgot about it. Got within a couple of paragraphs of finishing a week ago and then left it until today. Anyway, enjoy!
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Saved again. I might put something here later.
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