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Unicario
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Founded: Nov 27, 2009
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Postby Unicario » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:40 pm

Living Freedom Land wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I'm just doing it for fun. It's not like she'll openly declare herself to be 155 years old. She just kind of likes to melt into society and avoid questions. She has no desire to declare herself to be some 155 year old supernatural witch or something like that. She's just content with letting people know her, before she fades back into the background.

Why would she be a Senator is she wants to avoid questions? :p


Hey, nobody except for people she tells knows her story. Her "adoptive parents" thing is all bullshit. :P
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Ruling party is the Zenminjintō (Socialist Coalition)
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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:41 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I take JOINING ORGANISED CRIME as an agreement to possible death or injury. that is a very very fair assumption, considering our history.


I do not, especially since you have no evidence to say that I have betrayed you.

You would murder other people, but wouldn't let the same be done to yourself?

Jesus, I'm going to start making people agree to a fucking contract.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Rumostan
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:41 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
I do not, especially since you have no evidence to say that I have betrayed you.

You would murder other people, but wouldn't let the same be done to yourself?

Jesus, I'm going to start making people agree to a fucking contract.


Umm no, I wouldn't murder anyone. Now, where is your evidence?
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:42 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You would murder other people, but wouldn't let the same be done to yourself?

Jesus, I'm going to start making people agree to a fucking contract.


Umm no, I wouldn't murder anyone. Now, where is your evidence?

...the mob now needs "evidence" to do things? We aren't the fucking Justice system.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:43 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You would murder other people, but wouldn't let the same be done to yourself?

Jesus, I'm going to start making people agree to a fucking contract.


Umm no, I wouldn't murder anyone. Now, where is your evidence?

And why the hell would you join the obviously murderous mafia if you wouldn't be willing to do so yourself?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Living Freedom Land
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Founded: Jul 07, 2007
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Postby Living Freedom Land » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:43 pm

Unicario wrote:
Living Freedom Land wrote:Why would she be a Senator is she wants to avoid questions? :p


Hey, nobody except for people she tells knows her story. Her "adoptive parents" thing is all bullshit. :P

I think it's time we started a Senatorial Mental Ward!

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
I do not, especially since you have no evidence to say that I have betrayed you.

You would murder other people, but wouldn't let the same be done to yourself?

Jesus, I'm going to start making people agree to a fucking contract.

That's actually a good idea to have an explicit OOC agreement like that. It's rather bad form to kill off someone's character or shoot them without explicit agreement.
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Rumostan
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:43 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
Umm no, I wouldn't murder anyone. Now, where is your evidence?

...the mob now needs "evidence" to do things? We aren't the fucking Justice system.


You shot me and you had no reason to do so. If you have no reason then you wouldn't have done this. That means that unless you wanted to be pushed further away from society, you wouldn't have done this.
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:45 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...the mob now needs "evidence" to do things? We aren't the fucking Justice system.


You shot me and you had no reason to do so. If you have no reason then you wouldn't have done this. That means that unless you wanted to be pushed further away from society, you wouldn't have done this.

okay, I want to be pushed further away from "society."

*forcibly pushes himself away from crowd*
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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The Prince Of Shadows
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Founded: Jun 24, 2013
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:47 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...the mob now needs "evidence" to do things? We aren't the fucking Justice system.


You shot me and you had no reason to do so. If you have no reason then you wouldn't have done this. That means that unless you wanted to be pushed further away from society, you wouldn't have done this.


You turned informant. Once you do that and we find out, we get Carte Blanche. That is the deal.
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Rumostan
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:47 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
You shot me and you had no reason to do so. If you have no reason then you wouldn't have done this. That means that unless you wanted to be pushed further away from society, you wouldn't have done this.

okay, I want to be pushed further away from "society."

*forcibly pushes himself away from crowd*


Anyway, I refuse to die.
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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Ziegenhain
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Founded: Jan 02, 2013
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Postby Ziegenhain » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:47 pm

The IASM wrote:
Kouralia wrote:And I still do not give a toss.

See, the bit where I said 'knock it off'? That means... stfu.

ALL OF YOU

For emphasis.

A FYI.
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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:48 pm

The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
You shot me and you had no reason to do so. If you have no reason then you wouldn't have done this. That means that unless you wanted to be pushed further away from society, you wouldn't have done this.


You turned informant. Once you do that and we find out, we get Carte Blanche. That is the deal.

Exactly. I'm pretty sure that it has been said numerous times on the forum that you'll be clipped if you betray us.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Rumostan
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:48 pm

The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
You shot me and you had no reason to do so. If you have no reason then you wouldn't have done this. That means that unless you wanted to be pushed further away from society, you wouldn't have done this.


You turned informant. Once you do that and we find out, we get Carte Blanche. That is the deal.


No I didn't and you know that.
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:49 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:okay, I want to be pushed further away from "society."

*forcibly pushes himself away from crowd*


Anyway, I refuse to die.

No. That is ridiculous. You joined the fucking mob. How can you not expect to eventually die/get seriously injured/be incarcerated for life when you JOIN THE MAFIA?!
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Rumostan
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:51 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
Anyway, I refuse to die.

No. That is ridiculous. You joined the fucking mob. How can you not expect to eventually die/get seriously injured/be incarcerated for life when you JOIN THE MAFIA?!


Because I never did anything to harm the mafia and I had all but avoided it for ages.
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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The Prince Of Shadows
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Founded: Jun 24, 2013
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:52 pm

Rumostan wrote:
The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
You turned informant. Once you do that and we find out, we get Carte Blanche. That is the deal.


No I didn't and you know that.


Yes we do, Pruss has told me he has evidence. One of my families soldiers just shot you in the head so for the purposes of this RP your character is dead and nothing you say from now onward will be considered evidence against us.

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:52 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:No. That is ridiculous. You joined the fucking mob. How can you not expect to eventually die/get seriously injured/be incarcerated for life when you JOIN THE MAFIA?!


Because I never did anything to harm the mafia and I had all but avoided it for ages.

but

you

joined

a

criminal

organisation

that

KILLS PEOPLE ALL THE TIME
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Rumostan
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:53 pm

The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
No I didn't and you know that.


Yes we do, Pruss has told me he has evidence. One of my families soldiers just shot you in the head so for the purposes of this RP your character is dead and nothing you say from now onward will be considered evidence against us.


Really, and what evidence is that?
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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Kouralia
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Founded: Oct 30, 2011
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:53 pm

(OOC: btw guys, I haven't been enforcing this much, but this is an IC thread. I like the idea of two senators bitching about who is and isn't allowed to die. [/Bane])
Kouralia:

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Unicario
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Founded: Nov 27, 2009
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Postby Unicario » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:53 pm

The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
No I didn't and you know that.


Yes we do, Pruss has told me he has evidence. One of my families soldiers just shot you in the head so for the purposes of this RP your character is dead and nothing you say from now onward will be considered evidence against us.


((Godmodding. You can't kill a person's character without their express direct permission.))
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Dai Ginkaigan Teikoku
Head of State: Ranko XIX Tentai
Ruling party is the Zenminjintō (Socialist Coalition)
Ginkaigan is currently at peace.

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:55 pm

Unicario wrote:
The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Yes we do, Pruss has told me he has evidence. One of my families soldiers just shot you in the head so for the purposes of this RP your character is dead and nothing you say from now onward will be considered evidence against us.


((Godmodding. You can't kill a person's character without their express direct permission.))

I have actually said on these forums several times before that joining us effectively means you allow yourself to be arrested, shot, killed, whatever. i actually notified the vast majority of entrants of that as well, and sincerely doubt that i did not do the same with Rumostan.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Rumostan
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:55 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Unicario wrote:
((Godmodding. You can't kill a person's character without their express direct permission.))

I have actually said on these forums several times before that joining us effectively means you allow yourself to be arrested, shot, killed, whatever. i actually notified the vast majority of entrants of that as well, and sincerely doubt that i did not do the same with Rumostan.


You didn't. I joined originally and you just said 'Do you want to join the Mafia?'
Senator Alex Johnson- Senator for The National Liberal Party and Senator for the constituency of Lüten (96)
My political compass:
Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26
Why don't you take a look at the nations fact book (still being completed) to get a taste of what it is like in the Sultanate?
I am a non practising Sunni Muslim
Lelouch is amazing and should be a god
I am a Conservative (UK)

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Founded: Mar 12, 2012
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:56 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I have actually said on these forums several times before that joining us effectively means you allow yourself to be arrested, shot, killed, whatever. i actually notified the vast majority of entrants of that as well, and sincerely doubt that i did not do the same with Rumostan.


You didn't. I joined originally and you just said 'Do you want to join the Mafia?'

After which I probably said "You realise you might be arrested or killed or something, right?"
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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The Prince Of Shadows
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Founded: Jun 24, 2013
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:56 pm

Unicario wrote:
The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Yes we do, Pruss has told me he has evidence. One of my families soldiers just shot you in the head so for the purposes of this RP your character is dead and nothing you say from now onward will be considered evidence against us.


((Godmodding. You can't kill a person's character without their express direct permission.))


It has been established several weeks ago that anyone who betrays the mafia can be killed by the mafia. No permission is necessary. Rum knew the risk, he can't now he has been found out backtrack.

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Gothmogs
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Founded: Feb 14, 2013
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Postby Gothmogs » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:56 pm

Rumostan wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I have actually said on these forums several times before that joining us effectively means you allow yourself to be arrested, shot, killed, whatever. i actually notified the vast majority of entrants of that as well, and sincerely doubt that i did not do the same with Rumostan.


You didn't. I joined originally and you just said 'Do you want to join the Mafia?'

OOC: Same. I was never notified.
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