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Postby Othelos » Wed May 15, 2013 8:47 pm

Shrillland wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
For once it seems we agree.


I did not say they should get to vote twice. The NSG Senate Admins nation should take the title of Senate President and cast no votes except in case of ties.

Opposed, as they aren't elected.

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Postby Othelos » Wed May 15, 2013 8:48 pm

Final tally of the SAPSA:

Yea: 39 (48.1%)
Nay: 42 (51.9%)
Total votes: 81

1 abstain registered



Final tally of the NRPA:

Yea: 36 (46.8%)
Nay: 41 (53.2%)
Total votes: 77

3 abstains registered

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Postby Yanalia » Wed May 15, 2013 8:50 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Then make a bill about it. You can't just make an office out of thin air.

Look at it this way: he is appointing an assistant to help him with his job. This person happens to be called the Vice President. I think we can agree that if you were in a position of power, you would want the ability to appoint an assistant and give him a title. The VP has no legal responsibilities at the moment, but he is meant to be a balancing assistant to the president.

Also, the Republican Executive Act mandates that the Senate vote on Aeken's appointment of PM, who is Free Soc. As this is a vote critical to the senate, I move for the vote on Aeken's PM appointment to be the next item on the queue after the current vote finishes.


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Postby Othelos » Wed May 15, 2013 8:50 pm

Never mind. Keeping this here so when it's posted later it doesn't have to be re-typed.

Now up for debate is the National Security Act.

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Findings and Policies

§ 1: As a fledgling nation, Aurentina has faced problems with national identity. With a divided electorate, and a number of legitimate concerns arising over the growth of partisan and other militias in the country, it is paramount that as part of organizing a government, the security of the people of the nation is protected.

While external threats have been minimal, and as of yet there is no evidence to suggest that the various militias intend an armed putsch against the government, their existence highlights another problem. Presently, law enforcement and security are the responsibility of local communities. Local police are increasingly inadequate in a highly mobile, globalized society.

Establishment of executive authority

§ 2: (a) A Ministry of Justice shall be established, under the aegis of the Council of Ministers, headed by a Minister of Justice.
(1) This act shall not abridge the right of local communities to establish their own police forces; However:
(2) The Ministry of Justice shall be responsible for implementing national policy regarding criminal justice (including but not limited to prosecution, public defense, incarceration, and rehabilitation), and regulating the conduct of both the National Police Force as established under Section 3, and the various local police forces.
(3) The Ministry of Justice shall be responsible for regulating the conduct of partisan militias according to law enacted by the Senate.

(b) A Ministry of Defense shall be established, under the aegis of the Council of Ministers, headed by a Minister of Defense.
(1) Nothing in this authorization shall be understood to conflict with the prerogative, established under the Republican Executive Act, of the President to act as commander-in-chief of the nation's armed forces.
(2) The Ministry of Defense shall be responsible for implementing defense policy regarding the uniformed armed forces established under Section 4, as enacted by the Council of Ministers.

National Police

§ 3: (a) The National Police Force [NPF] shall be established to protect against breaches of the peace, protect public safety and enforce criminal law.
(1) The NPF shall be governed by a Public Safety Commission appointed by the Ministry of Justice.
(2) Hiring for the NPF shall be conducted by a non-partisan Civil Service Commission, hereby established by this act as an independent government agency under the supervision of the Council of Ministers and the Senate.

(b) This act authorizes NPF to have universal jurisdiction over the entire nation, as well as any embassies established on foreign soil. As per this law, local police forces are required to cooperate with the NPF, and all matters that involve multiple local jurisdictions shall be the primary responsibility of the NPF.

National Defense Force

§ 4: (a) The National Defense Force (NDF) shall be established to protect against foreign invasion and insurrection.
(1) The NDF shall be divided into an Army, Navy, and Air Force.
(2) The NDF shall be an all volunteer military, and no provision of this act shall allow conscription except during times of war. Conscription may only be authorized by Senate resolution during times when a state of war has been declared.
(3) The NDF shall not be used for domestic law enforcement except upon the declaration of a national state of emergency by the Senate.
(4) NDF personnel shall not be quartered in private homes without the consent of the occupants.
(5) The NDF is presently authorized to hold a maximum strength of 200,000 uniformed officers and enlisted persons.
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Postby Othelos » Wed May 15, 2013 8:51 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Look at it this way: he is appointing an assistant to help him with his job. This person happens to be called the Vice President. I think we can agree that if you were in a position of power, you would want the ability to appoint an assistant and give him a title. The VP has no legal responsibilities at the moment, but he is meant to be a balancing assistant to the president.

Also, the Republican Executive Act mandates that the Senate vote on Aeken's appointment of PM, who is Free Soc. As this is a vote critical to the senate, I move for the vote on Aeken's PM appointment to be the next item on the queue after the current vote finishes.


Seconded.

Thirded.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed May 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Shrillland wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
For once it seems we agree.


I did not say they should get to vote twice. The NSG Senate Admins nation should take the title of Senate President and cast no votes except in case of ties.

As an admin, I am opposed to this.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Silent Majority » Wed May 15, 2013 9:39 pm

We should probably put legislation on hold, and vote on Aeken's PM appointment
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Postby Finium » Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 pm

Silent Majority wrote:We should probably put legislation on hold, and vote on Aeken's PM appointment

I think that's already been motioned
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 pm

Othelos wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed.
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Postby Finium » Wed May 15, 2013 9:43 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Othelos wrote:Thirded.

Fourthed.

Fifthed
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Postby Silent Majority » Wed May 15, 2013 9:43 pm

Finium wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:We should probably put legislation on hold, and vote on Aeken's PM appointment

I think that's already been motioned


Not sure how I missed that :palm: ugh
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed May 15, 2013 9:44 pm

The current agenda is now Aeken's PM appointment.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:The current agenda is now Aeken's PM appointment.

I vote Aye

Votes:
Yes: 1
No: 0
Total: 1
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Postby Silent Majority » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 pm

Aye
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed May 15, 2013 9:46 pm

Yes: 2
No: 0
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Yanalia » Wed May 15, 2013 9:46 pm

Aye.
Economic Left/Right: -9.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33

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Postby Finium » Wed May 15, 2013 9:51 pm

Aye
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Wed May 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Aye.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed May 15, 2013 10:03 pm

Aye.
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Postby Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Wed May 15, 2013 10:22 pm

Aye.

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Postby Agritum » Wed May 15, 2013 10:34 pm

Aye.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Wed May 15, 2013 10:41 pm

Yes: 8
No: 0
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President of Aurentina Wulukuno Porunalakai; Leader, Progress Coa.

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Postby Oneracon » Wed May 15, 2013 10:55 pm

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Postby Beta Test » Wed May 15, 2013 11:08 pm

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Postby Glasgia » Wed May 15, 2013 11:08 pm

I vote AYE in favour of Senator Freesoc's appointment as Prime Minister. I urge other senators to do so also, as not to undermine the democratic elections we have been through.
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