NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Ainin]

Enough sponsors for queue.

Military Discipline and Structure Act
Author: Ainin • Urgency: Very High • Sponsors: Free South Califas (C), Mytannion (RG), Welsh Cowboy, Geilinor (LD), New Zepuha (CMP)

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the Commonwealth Armed Forces Act left several points unclarified,

Resolving to remedy this problem though legislation,

Enacts the following section and clauses:


Section I - Ranks

Ranks are hereby modeled on the NATO system of codage, however this law affirms that Aurentina is not a member of said organization:
OR-1: Recruit (Rct)
OR-2: Cadet (Cdt)
OR-3: Private (Pvt)
OR-4: Corporal (Cpl)
OR-5: Master Corporal (M/Cpl)
OR-6: Sergeant (Sgt)
OR-7: Warrant Officer, Third Class (WO3)
OR-8: Warrant Officer, Second Class (WO2)
OR-9: Warrant Officer, First Class (WO1)
Student Officer: Officer Cadet (O/Cdt)
OF-1: Second Lieutenant (2Lt)
OF-1: Lieutenant (Lt)
OF-2: Captain (Capt)
OF-3: Major (Maj)
OF-4: Lieutenant-Colonel (L/Col)
OF-5: Colonel (Col)
OF-6: Brigadier-General (B/Gen)
OF-7: Major-General (M/Gen)
OF-8: Lieutenant-General (L/Gen)
OF-9: General, Second Class (2Gen)
OF-10: General, First Class (1Gen)
All ranks from OR-1 to OR-3 are to be known as soldiers, airmen or sailors, depending on branch of the Armed Forces.
All ranks from OR-4 to Student Officer are to be known as NCOs (non-commissioned officers).
All ranks from OF-1 and above are to be known as commissioned officers.
The President of Aurentina, or a representative acting in his or her official position with willful consent, is mandated to sign a file documenting the commissioning of an officer.


Section II - Symbols

The Commonwealth Armed Forces' motto is to be "Nunquam non paratus" (Never unprepared).
The Commonwealth Air Force's motto is to be "Per volar sunata" (Born to soar).
The Commonwealth Army's motto is to be "Faciam quodlibet quod necesse est" (I will do what it takes).
The Commonwealth Navy's motto is to be "Nil volentibus arduum" (All is possible for the willing).


Section III - Procedure

All on-duty uniformed members of the CAF rank OR-6 and below must salute commissioned officers at sight unless when marching or when the circumstance does not allow for a salute to be performed.
It is illegal to lean on a wall or other solid item, to cross arms and to display public signs of affection while in uniform on active duty without permission from the commanding officer.
A commanding officer is defined as the unit's highest-ranked officer.

Hereby passes the Military Discipline and Structure Act.

Could we get the ranks for the Navy and Air Force added as well. There are no Generals in the Navy, they call them Admirals.

I'll add navy ranks tomorrow. But there are generals in the Air Force. Some nations' air force have the same ranks as their army.

I also think that this:

It is illegal to lean on a wall or other solid item, to cross arms and to display public signs of affection while in uniform on active duty without permission from the commanding officer.

needs to be clarified, specifically the part about leaning on walls or other solid items. During combat, those walls and solid items are what is known as "cover" and are extremely important to the soldiers safety. They shouldn't need to ask their Lieutenant or Sarge to lean against a wall in order to not be shot at.

Emphasis on "in uniform". Combats aren't a uniform. It basically means no slacking on official ceremonies requiring the wearing of the formal uniform.

[Free South Califas]

To be clear, "uniform" is, I'm told, meant to imply its singleness. That is, combat dress is a special outfit, not "the uniform". However, Ainin might be better understood by those most familiar with American English and similar dialects if it were clarified, for sure.

[Geilinor]

To be clear, "uniform" is, I'm told, meant to imply its singleness. That is, combat dress is a special outfit, not "the uniform". However, Ainin might be better understood by those most familiar with American English and similar dialects if it were clarified, for sure.

Combat dress is a uniform. One of uniform's definitions is "A distinctive outfit intended to identify those who wear it as members of a specific group".

[Ainin]

To be clear, "uniform" is, I'm told, meant to imply its singleness. That is, combat dress is a special outfit, not "the uniform". However, Ainin might be better understood by those most familiar with American English and similar dialects if it were clarified, for sure.

Fine. I'll define uniform as the "ceremonial and/or formal dress worn by servicemen of the Commonwealth Armed Forces".

[New Zepuha]

The US Military only has different ranks for the Navy and Coast Guard. Even they share the same ranks different emblems, and the Marine Corps, part of the navy, Shares the same emblems but army ranks. The air force has the same officer ranks but enlisted are all different.

[Fulflood]

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[Regnum Albion]

Is such an act (the Military Discipline Act) really required to be passed by the senate? Surely mottos, how to conduct oneself while on duty, and ranks are the realms of the armed forces command or at least the executive rather than a legislative body. This is especially the case for how members of the armed forces conduct themselves.

Nothing in this proposed act needs a law to back it up, and in fact with the amount of changes that are seen in the operation of armed forces due to modernisation and reform processes, a law on such a mundane set of issues could hold back the armed forces command. This is mainly an issue regarding the conduct of members of the armed forces.

Regarding mottos and ranks, again those should be determined by the armed forces and come from the grassroots to ensure a sense of tradition and real pride in such symbols. Pushing them on an armed forces from above through a needless administrative act is entirely unnecessary in my opinion.

[Welsh Cowboy]

Is such an act (the Military Discipline Act) really required to be passed by the senate? Surely mottos, how to conduct oneself while on duty, and ranks are the realms of the armed forces command or at least the executive rather than a legislative body. This is especially the case for how members of the armed forces conduct themselves.

Nothing in this proposed act needs a law to back it up, and in fact with the amount of changes that are seen in the operation of armed forces due to modernisation and reform processes, a law on such a mundane set of issues could hold back the armed forces command. This is mainly an issue regarding the conduct of members of the armed forces.

Regarding mottos and ranks, again those should be determined by the armed forces and come from the grassroots to ensure a sense of tradition and real pride in such symbols. Pushing them on an armed forces from above through a needless administrative act is entirely unnecessary in my opinion.

I must agree with my colleague, despite my initial cosponsorship. While I don't see a problem with setting ranks, or at least "pay grades", setting mottos seems to be micromanagement, and the conduct while on duty is better suited for a Military Code of Justice-esque law.

I'm not removing my cosponsor signature, but I don't think that most of this act is necessary, although not necessarily bad either.

[The Nihilistic view]

Enough sponsors for queue.

Military Discipline and Structure Act
Author: Ainin • Urgency: Very High • Sponsors: Free South Califas (C), Mytannion (RG), Welsh Cowboy, Geilinor (LD), New Zepuha (CMP)

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the Commonwealth Armed Forces Act left several points unclarified,

Resolving to remedy this problem though legislation,

Enacts the following section and clauses:


Section I - Ranks

Ranks are hereby modeled on the NATO system of codage, however this law affirms that Aurentina is not a member of said organization:
OR-1: Recruit (Rct)
OR-2: Cadet (Cdt)
OR-3: Private (Pvt)
OR-4: Corporal (Cpl)
OR-5: Master Corporal (M/Cpl)
OR-6: Sergeant (Sgt)
OR-7: Warrant Officer, Third Class (WO3)
OR-8: Warrant Officer, Second Class (WO2)
OR-9: Warrant Officer, First Class (WO1)
Student Officer: Officer Cadet (O/Cdt)
OF-1: Second Lieutenant (2Lt)
OF-1: Lieutenant (Lt)
OF-2: Captain (Capt)
OF-3: Major (Maj)
OF-4: Lieutenant-Colonel (L/Col)
OF-5: Colonel (Col)
OF-6: Brigadier-General (B/Gen)
OF-7: Major-General (M/Gen)
OF-8: Lieutenant-General (L/Gen)
OF-9: General, Second Class (2Gen)
OF-10: General, First Class (1Gen)
All ranks from OR-1 to OR-3 are to be known as soldiers, airmen or sailors, depending on branch of the Armed Forces.
All ranks from OR-4 to Student Officer are to be known as NCOs (non-commissioned officers).
All ranks from OF-1 and above are to be known as commissioned officers.
The President of Aurentina, or a representative acting in his or her official position with willful consent, is mandated to sign a file documenting the commissioning of an officer.


Section II - Symbols

The Commonwealth Armed Forces' motto is to be "Nunquam non paratus" (Never unprepared).
The Commonwealth Air Force's motto is to be "Per volar sunata" (Born to soar).
The Commonwealth Army's motto is to be "Faciam quodlibet quod necesse est" (I will do what it takes).
The Commonwealth Navy's motto is to be "Nil volentibus arduum" (All is possible for the willing).


Section III - Procedure

All on-duty uniformed members of the CAF rank OR-6 and below must salute commissioned officers at sight unless when marching or when the circumstance does not allow for a salute to be performed.
It is illegal to lean on a wall or other solid item, to cross arms and to display public signs of affection while in uniform on active duty without permission from the commanding officer.
A commanding officer is defined as the unit's highest-ranked officer.

Hereby passes the Military Discipline and Structure Act.

What about the motto for the special forces? A couple of us in the defense committee came up with this.

In;
Latin: Impossibile est nisi quoddam verbum.

English: Impossible is nothing but a word.

[Ainin]

Is such an act (the Military Discipline Act) really required to be passed by the senate? Surely mottos, how to conduct oneself while on duty, and ranks are the realms of the armed forces command or at least the executive rather than a legislative body. This is especially the case for how members of the armed forces conduct themselves.

Nothing in this proposed act needs a law to back it up, and in fact with the amount of changes that are seen in the operation of armed forces due to modernisation and reform processes, a law on such a mundane set of issues could hold back the armed forces command. This is mainly an issue regarding the conduct of members of the armed forces.

Regarding mottos and ranks, again those should be determined by the armed forces and come from the grassroots to ensure a sense of tradition and real pride in such symbols. Pushing them on an armed forces from above through a needless administrative act is entirely unnecessary in my opinion.

As someone has already stated before, ranks are set by law, not by executive decree.

As someone in the coffee shop said:

Military ranks are always assigned in law, for example: 10 USC § 741 (US) or the National Defence Act (Canada).

[Ainin]

Enough sponsors for queue.

Military Discipline and Structure Act
Author: Ainin • Urgency: Very High • Sponsors: Free South Califas (C), Mytannion (RG), Welsh Cowboy, Geilinor (LD), New Zepuha (CMP)

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the Commonwealth Armed Forces Act left several points unclarified,

Resolving to remedy this problem though legislation,

Enacts the following section and clauses:


Section I - Ranks

Ranks are hereby modeled on the NATO system of codage, however this law affirms that Aurentina is not a member of said organization:
OR-1: Recruit (Rct)
OR-2: Cadet (Cdt)
OR-3: Private (Pvt)
OR-4: Corporal (Cpl)
OR-5: Master Corporal (M/Cpl)
OR-6: Sergeant (Sgt)
OR-7: Warrant Officer, Third Class (WO3)
OR-8: Warrant Officer, Second Class (WO2)
OR-9: Warrant Officer, First Class (WO1)
Student Officer: Officer Cadet (O/Cdt)
OF-1: Second Lieutenant (2Lt)
OF-1: Lieutenant (Lt)
OF-2: Captain (Capt)
OF-3: Major (Maj)
OF-4: Lieutenant-Colonel (L/Col)
OF-5: Colonel (Col)
OF-6: Brigadier-General (B/Gen)
OF-7: Major-General (M/Gen)
OF-8: Lieutenant-General (L/Gen)
OF-9: General, Second Class (2Gen)
OF-10: General, First Class (1Gen)
All ranks from OR-1 to OR-3 are to be known as soldiers, airmen or sailors, depending on branch of the Armed Forces.
All ranks from OR-4 to Student Officer are to be known as NCOs (non-commissioned officers).
All ranks from OF-1 and above are to be known as commissioned officers.
The President of Aurentina, or a representative acting in his or her official position with willful consent, is mandated to sign a file documenting the commissioning of an officer.


Section II - Symbols

The Commonwealth Armed Forces' motto is to be "Nunquam non paratus" (Never unprepared).
The Commonwealth Air Force's motto is to be "Per volar sunata" (Born to soar).
The Commonwealth Army's motto is to be "Faciam quodlibet quod necesse est" (I will do what it takes).
The Commonwealth Navy's motto is to be "Nil volentibus arduum" (All is possible for the willing).


Section III - Procedure

All on-duty uniformed members of the CAF rank OR-6 and below must salute commissioned officers at sight unless when marching or when the circumstance does not allow for a salute to be performed.
It is illegal to lean on a wall or other solid item, to cross arms and to display public signs of affection while in uniform on active duty without permission from the commanding officer.
A commanding officer is defined as the unit's highest-ranked officer.

Hereby passes the Military Discipline and Structure Act.

What about the motto for the special forces? A couple of us in the defense committee came up with this.

In;
Latin: Impossibile est nisi quoddam verbum.

English: Impossible is nothing but a word.

We don't have special forces according to the CAFA...

[Ainin]

Enough sponsors for queue.

Military Discipline and Structure Act
Author: Ainin • Urgency: Very High • Sponsors: Free South Califas (C), Mytannion (RG), Welsh Cowboy, Geilinor (LD), New Zepuha (CMP)

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the Commonwealth Armed Forces Act left several points unclarified,

Resolving to remedy this problem though legislation,

Enacts the following section and clauses:


Section I - Ranks

Ranks are hereby modeled on the NATO system of codage, however this law affirms that Aurentina is not a member of said organization:
Note: These ranks apply to the Commonwealth Army and Commonwealth Air Force. The Commonwealth Navy ranks are in brackets.
OR-1: Recruit (Rct) [Recruit - Rct]
OR-2: Cadet (Cdt) [Seaman - Sa]
OR-3: Private (Pvt) [Able Seaman - A/Sa]
OR-4: Corporal (Cpl) [Leading Seaman - L/Sa]
OR-5: Master Corporal (M/Cpl) [Master Seaman - M/Sa]
OR-6: Sergeant (Sgt) [Petty Officer, Second Class - PO2]
OR-7: Warrant Officer, Third Class (WO3) [Petty Officer, First Class - PO1]
OR-8: Warrant Officer, Second Class (WO2) [Chief Petty Officer, Second Class - CPO2]
OR-9: Warrant Officer, First Class (WO1) [Chief Petty Officer, First Class - CPO1]
Student Officer: Officer Cadet (O/Cdt) [Sea Cadet - S/Cdt]
OF-1: Second Lieutenant (2Lt) [Sub-lieutenant - S/Lt]
OF-1: Lieutenant (Lt) [Lieutenant - Lt]
OF-2: Captain (Capt) [Lieutenant-Commander - Lt. Com]
OF-3: Major (Maj) [Commander - Com]
OF-4: Lieutenant-Colonel (L/Col) [Captain - Cpt]
OF-5: Colonel (Col) - [Commodore - Cmd]
OF-6: Brigadier-General (B/Gen) [Rear Admiral - R/Adm]
OF-7: Major-General (M/Gen) [Vice Admiral - V/Adm]
OF-8: Lieutenant-General (L/Gen) [Admiral - Adm]
OF-9: General, Second Class (2Gen) [Admiral of the Fleet - Adm/F]
OF-10: General, First Class (1Gen) [Commander-in-Chief - CIC]
All ranks from OR-1 to OR-3 are to be known as soldiers, airmen or sailors, depending on branch of the Armed Forces.
All ranks from OR-4 to Student Officer are to be known as NCOs (non-commissioned officers).
All ranks from OF-1 and above are to be known as commissioned officers.
The President of Aurentina, or a representative acting in his or her official position with willful consent, is mandated to sign a file documenting the commissioning of an officer.


Section II - Symbols

The Commonwealth Armed Forces' motto is to be "Nunquam non paratus" (Never unprepared).
The Commonwealth Air Force's motto is to be "Per volar sunata" (Born to soar).
The Commonwealth Army's motto is to be "Faciam quodlibet quod necesse est" (I will do what it takes).
The Commonwealth Navy's motto is to be "Nil volentibus arduum" (All is possible for the willing).


Section III - Procedure

All on-duty uniformed members of the CAF rank OR-6 and below must salute commissioned officers at sight unless when marching or when the circumstance does not allow for a salute to be performed.
It is illegal to lean on a wall or other solid item, to cross arms and to display public signs of affection while in uniform on active duty without permission from the commanding officer.
Uniform is defined as the ceremonial or formal dress of CAF servicemen.
A commanding officer is defined as the unit's highest-ranked officer.

Hereby passes the Military Discipline and Structure Act.

Added suggested amendments.

[The Nihilistic view]

What about the motto for the special forces? A couple of us in the defense committee came up with this.

In;
Latin: Impossibile est nisi quoddam verbum.

English: Impossible is nothing but a word.

We don't have special forces according to the CAFA...

Special forces have never been something legislated on by governments. The Army creates them and as we have a military act the forces would create them. They are in most countries not a separate branch of the military, In the UK for example they are attached the the relevant command.

[Regnum Albion]

As someone has already stated before, ranks are set by law, not by executive decree.

As someone in the coffee shop said:

Military ranks are always assigned in law, for example: 10 USC § 741 (US) or the National Defence Act (Canada).

Oh, so because other countries set ranks by law, we now have to? But anyway, my main qualms were about legislating for how members of the armed forces should act on duty, something which the armed forces themselves (the experts...) determine, rather than politicians. Likewise with the mottos.

This proposed act is entirely irrelevant and, once stripped down merely to assigning ranks, is too specific to be of any legislative importance.

[The Nihilistic view]

As someone has already stated before, ranks are set by law, not by executive decree.

As someone in the coffee shop said:

Oh, so because other countries set ranks by law, we now have to? But anyway, my main qualms were about legislating for how members of the armed forces should act on duty, something which the armed forces themselves (the experts...) determine, rather than politicians. Likewise with the mottos.

This proposed act is entirely irrelevant and, once stripped down merely to assigning ranks, is too specific to be of any legislative importance.

Yes the experts in other countries who seem to have ranks formalized by legislation. They have to be set by law to be able to legally give the rank holders power over lesser ranks. Without it the army would be some kind of french revolutionary type fuck up with everyone only having the legal rank of citizen. Secondly the military should be held accountable to people and that is why regulations are discussed by the top brass and the government as in the end the civil courts should have power over the army. We don't want a junta to take power.

I would say your ideas are entirely irrelevant and perhaps thinking through why it is necessary to legislate for ranks any why the rest of the world does it this way etc would have been a far more productive use of your time.

[Regnum Albion]

Yes the experts in other countries who seem to have ranks formalized by legislation. They have to be set by law to be able to legally give the rank holders power over lesser ranks. Without it the army would be some kind of french revolutionary type fuck up with everyone only having the legal rank of citizen. Secondly the military should be held accountable to people and that is why regulations are discussed by the top brass and the government as in the end the civil courts should have power over the army. We don't want a junta to take power.

I would say your ideas are entirely irrelevant and perhaps thinking through why it is necessary to legislate for ranks any why the rest of the world does it this way etc would have been a far more productive use of your time.

OK, so there's a good point that I'll take on board. At least you actually told me why other nations all do it and presented a reasoned argument there, rather than just saying that we should do it because others do. Fair enough regarding the ranks, it does seem necessary now that I've heard your argument.

But though some aspects of the armed forces should be legislated (I never said the armed forces should be entirely out of the control of the legislature) others, specifically their conduct on duty, shouldn't be so specifically detailed here. It belongs in a training/SOP manual within the armed forces itself. And micromanagement like detailing mottos also seems to be an organisational/administrative concern of the armed forces themselves, not of the legislature (this one is my own view of administration vs. legislation etc.).

Oh, and I'm sorry if I somehow offended you by debating reasonably, but I don't think the kind of tone you used against me was called for at all. If we're going to RP a parliamentary institution then it would be nice if the conduct matched that.

[Divair]

Admins, please update the OP. Also add the dates for when the bills passed.

[Free South Califas]

Yes the experts in other countries who seem to have ranks formalized by legislation. They have to be set by law to be able to legally give the rank holders power over lesser ranks. Without it the army would be some kind of french revolutionary type fuck up with everyone only having the legal rank of citizen. Secondly the military should be held accountable to people and that is why regulations are discussed by the top brass and the government as in the end the civil courts should have power over the army. We don't want a junta to take power.

I would say your ideas are entirely irrelevant and perhaps thinking through why it is necessary to legislate for ranks any why the rest of the world does it this way etc would have been a far more productive use of your time.

OK, so there's a good point that I'll take on board. At least you actually told me why other nations all do it and presented a reasoned argument there, rather than just saying that we should do it because others do. Fair enough regarding the ranks, it does seem necessary now that I've heard your argument.
...
Oh, and I'm sorry if I somehow offended you by debating reasonably, but I don't think the kind of tone you used against me was called for at all. If we're going to RP a parliamentary institution then it would be nice if the conduct matched that.

While your aggressive non-apology undercuts the rest of the post a bit, you have an excellent point that we need a positive justification in order to make law, not just looking like the other legislatures.

We don't have special forces according to the CAFA...

Special forces have never been something legislated on by governments. The Army creates them and as we have a military act the forces would create them. They are in most countries not a separate branch of the military, In the UK for example they are attached the the relevant command.

Then what are you asking from the legislation?

[Ainin]

We don't have special forces according to the CAFA...

Special forces have never been something legislated on by governments. The Army creates them and as we have a military act the forces would create them. They are in most countries not a separate branch of the military, In the UK for example they are attached the the relevant command.

You're asking me to legislate a motto for a division that is never legislated by the government?

[Ainin]

What has mah act become... ;_;

Military Discipline and Structure Act
Author: Ainin and Kouralia • Urgency: Very High • Sponsors: Free South Califas (C), Mytannion (RG), Welsh Cowboy, Geilinor (LD), New Zepuha (CMP)

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the Commonwealth Armed Forces Act left several points unclarified,

Resolving to remedy this problem though legislation,

Enacts the following section and clauses:


Section I - Ranks

Ranks are hereby modeled on the NATO system of codage, however this law affirms that Aurentina is not a member of said organization:

CODE:	Army:	Navy:	Air Force:
OR1:	Private (Pte)	Seaman (Sm)	Aircraft(wo)man (AC)
OR2:		Able Seaman (AB)	Leading Aircraft(wo)man (LAC) Senior Aircraft(wo)man (SAC)
OR3:	Lance Corporal (L/Cpl)
OR4:	Corporal (Cpl)	Leading Rate (LH)	Corporal (Cpl)
OR5:
OR6:	Sergeant (Sgt)	Petty Officer (PO)	Sergeant (Sgt) Sergeant Aircrew (Sgt)
OR7:	Colour Sergeant (CSgt)	Chief Petty Officer (CPO)	Flight Sergeant (FS) Flight Sergeant Aircrew (FS) Chief Technician (Chf Tech)
OR8:	Warrant Officer Class 2 (WO2)	Warrant Officer Class 2 (WO2)
OR9:	Warrant Officer Class 1 (WO1)	Warrant Officer Class 1 (WO1)	Warrant Officer (WO) Master Aircrew (MAcr)
OF(D):	Officer Cadet (OCdt)	Officer Cadet (OCdt)	Officer Cadet (OCdt) Acting Pilot Officer (APO)
OF1:	Second Lieutenant (2Lt) Lieutenant (Lt)	Midshipman (Mid) Sub-Lieutenant (S/Lt)	Pilot Officer (PltOf) Flying Officer (FgOf)
OF2:	Captain (Capt)	Lieutenant (Lt)	Flight Lieutenant (Flt Lt)
OF3:	Major (Maj)	Lieutenant Commander (LtCdr)	Squadron Leader (Sqn Ldr)
OF4:	Lieutenant Colonel (LtCol)	Commander (Cdr)	Wing Commander (Wg Cdr)
OF5:	Colonel (Col)	Captain (Capt)	Group Captain (Gp Capt)
OF6:	Brigadier (Brig)	Commodore (Cdre)	Air Commodore (Air Cdre)
OF7:	Major General (MajGen)	Rear Admiral (RAdm)	Air Vice Marshal (AVM)
OF8:	Lieutenant General (LtGen)	Vice Admiral(VAdm)	Air Marshal (Air Mshl)
OF9:	General (Gen)	Admiral (Adm)	Air Chief Marshal (Air Chf Mshl)
OF10:	Field Marshal (FM)	Admiral of the Fleet (Adm of the Fleet)	Marshal of the Air Force (MAF)

All ranks from OR-1 to OR-3 are to be known as soldiers, airmen or rates, depending on branch of the Armed Forces.
All ranks from OR-4 to OR-7 are to be known as NCOs (non-commissioned officers).
All ranks from OR-8 to Student Officer are to be known as Warrant Officers.
All ranks from OF-1 and above are to be known as commissioned officers.
The President of Aurentina, or a representative acting in his or her official position with willful consent, is mandated to sign a file documenting the commissioning of an officer.


Section II - Symbols

The Commonwealth Armed Forces' motto is to be "Nunquam non paratus" (Never unprepared).

The Commonwealth Air Force's motto is to be "Per volar sunata" (Born to soar).
The Commonwealth Army's motto is to be "Faciam quodlibet quod necesse est" (I will do what it takes).
The Commonwealth Navy's motto is to be "Nil volentibus arduum" (All is possible for the willing).

Hereby passes the Military Discipline and Structure Act.

[Oneracon]

Oh, and I'm sorry if I somehow offended you by debating reasonably, but I don't think the kind of tone you used against me was called for at all. If we're going to RP a parliamentary institution then it would be nice if the conduct matched that.

This is pretty tame compared to a lot of parliamentary institutions.

[Ainin]

Oh, and I'm sorry if I somehow offended you by debating reasonably, but I don't think the kind of tone you used against me was called for at all. If we're going to RP a parliamentary institution then it would be nice if the conduct matched that.

This is pretty tame compared to a lot of parliamentary institutions.

I remember reading about a large fistfight in the Taiwanese legislature (tax money at work, folks).

[Geilinor]

This is pretty tame compared to a lot of parliamentary institutions.

I remember reading about a large fistfight in the Taiwanese legislature (tax money at work, folks).

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=parliamentary%20fistfights&um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=667&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=i1 This stuff is quite entertaining. A cute little graphic for you(too large to post img tag): http://reaganpluscats.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Current-Event-Cat-Fistfight-in-Venezuelas-Parliament.png

[The Nihilistic view]

I have just thought, we don't have any legal powers to gather taxes.

[Geilinor]

I have just thought, we don't have any legal powers to gather taxes.

We don't have a way to enforce it, if that's what you mean.