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Free South Califas
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:53 pm

Let's take this to the lobby, shall we?

Note, as a Libertarian Communist, I'm offended by Bleckonia and his faction attempting to outrage the name of libertarianism and turn it into something quite different than what it ever meaningfully was. The mendacious lie is frankly heartbreaking to me. A libertarian supports equality of opportunity and justice, and is careful not to practice domination in politics, in rhetoric, in business or in their homes.

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Postby Belmaria » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:55 pm

Free South Califas wrote:Let's take this to the lobby, shall we?

Note, as a Libertarian Communist, I'm offended by Bleckonia and his faction attempting to outrage the name of libertarianism and turned it into something quite different than what it ever meaningfully was. The mendacious lie is frankly heartbreaking to me.


I can't post in the lobby for some reason... and although libertarianism was originally associated with socialism, it isn't anymore. Things change. Deal with it.
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:57 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Free South Califas wrote:Let's take this to the lobby, shall we?

Note, as a Libertarian Communist, I'm offended by Bleckonia and his faction attempting to outrage the name of libertarianism and turned it into something quite different than what it ever meaningfully was. The mendacious lie is frankly heartbreaking to me.


I can't post in the lobby for some reason... and although libertarianism was originally associated with socialism, it isn't anymore. Things change. Deal with it.

Well, don't post here. You're spamming. Excuses are irrelevant, you are hijacking the Senate Chamber and should stop.
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Postby Yanalia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:57 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Free South Califas wrote:Let's take this to the lobby, shall we?

Note, as a Libertarian Communist, I'm offended by Bleckonia and his faction attempting to outrage the name of libertarianism and turned it into something quite different than what it ever meaningfully was. The mendacious lie is frankly heartbreaking to me.


I can't post in the lobby for some reason... and although libertarianism was originally associated with socialism, it isn't anymore. Things change. Deal with it.


Try the one that's not locked for being too long: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=252408
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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:03 pm

I vote AGAINST the confirmation of Blackonia as PM.
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:11 pm

Free South Califas wrote:Assuming Byzantium was counted
Prime Minister Confirmation Vote | Candidate: Bleckonia [CFE] | Proposed by: Britanno [CPP]
For: 20
Against: 34
Abstain: 4

Total: 58
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Postby Phocidaea » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:17 pm

*sigh* will we ever manage to confirm a Prime Minister?

I think we should introduce legislation making it easier, if only because the only way a PM can be confirmed under the current system is basically if one party holds a solid majority of the Senate; it's bad enough with two in the US, I don't even know how many we have in Aurentina.
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Postby Resora » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:22 pm

Nay on the PM nomination.
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Postby Fulflood » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:26 pm

Phocidaea wrote:*sigh* will we ever manage to confirm a Prime Minister?

I think we should introduce legislation making it easier, if only because the only way a PM can be confirmed under the current system is basically if one party holds a solid majority of the Senate; it's bad enough with two in the US, I don't even know how many we have in Aurentina.

No, the current system just requires a majority behind a respectable candidate, who just due to the realities of politics needs to be unabrasive, reasonably neutral and reasonably moderate. It's a hard task I'll tell you, but not impossible.

Dunno how Geil didn't get elected though.
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:30 pm

Fulflood wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:*sigh* will we ever manage to confirm a Prime Minister?

I think we should introduce legislation making it easier, if only because the only way a PM can be confirmed under the current system is basically if one party holds a solid majority of the Senate; it's bad enough with two in the US, I don't even know how many we have in Aurentina.

No, the current system just requires a majority behind a respectable candidate, who just due to the realities of politics needs to be unabrasive, reasonably neutral and reasonably moderate. It's a hard task I'll tell you, but not impossible.

Dunno how Geil didn't get elected though.
This is all the kind of thing that should be over in the Lobby, innit?

For the record, it was because he allied with rabid anticommunists and a grand manipulator or two. Mildly distasteful to some parties, you know.
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:30 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
Free South Califas wrote:Assuming Byzantium was counted
Prime Minister Confirmation Vote | Candidate: Bleckonia [CFE] | Proposed by: Britanno [CPP]
For: 20
Against: 35
Abstain: 4

Total: 59
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Postby Fulflood » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:31 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
Fulflood wrote:No, the current system just requires a majority behind a respectable candidate, who just due to the realities of politics needs to be unabrasive, reasonably neutral and reasonably moderate. It's a hard task I'll tell you, but not impossible.

Dunno how Geil didn't get elected though.
This is all the kind of thing that should be over in the Lobby, innit?

Oh, yeah.
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Postby Chestaan » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:50 pm

I vote NAY on the PM nomination.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:24 pm

I vote against.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:48 pm

Prime Minister Confirmation Vote: Abstain

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Postby Venaleria » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:54 pm

I vote Nay.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:02 pm

I vote Abstain
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Postby Blassland » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:16 pm

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:49 pm

I vote AGAINST Bleckonia's appointment.
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Postby Ainin » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:50 pm

Prime Minister Confirmation Vote | Candidate: Bleckonia [CFE] | Proposed by: Britanno [CPP]
For: 20
Against: 40
Abstain: 6

Total: 66
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Postby Distruzio » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:04 pm

For Bleckonia.
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Postby Gorgashia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:15 pm

I vote Against Bleckonia.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:45 pm

I vote for Bleckonia.
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Postby Living Freedom Land » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:29 pm

I vote AYE to Bleckonia as Prime Minister.
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Postby Sibirsky » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:31 pm

I vote AYE to Bleckonia as Prime Minister.
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