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Postby Fulflood » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:38 pm

Battlion wrote:


I believe it only recently changed so you can't act like that.. Plus you have to be in education till 18 yes but that includes apprenticeships which isn't school etc.

It's still school, and it's still free.

Oh, and I'm well acquainted with the system by the way.
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Postby Free South Califas » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:40 pm

Ainin wrote:Undeniable proof Dr. Who caused the fall of communism:

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:blink: You're playing with fire, Senator.

You know that, right?
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:41 pm

Fulflood wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:16 to 18 is college, even in UK. It is called sixth form.

Better luck next argument.

Secondary school incorporates Key Stage 3 and Key Stage 4 of the National Curriculum (Year Seven to Year Eleven) and can also include sixth form.

Year 11 wrote:incorporates students aged between fifteen and seventeen

It may include sixth form (16/17 to 18/19) but it doesn't have to.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:42 pm

Fulflood wrote:
Battlion wrote:
I believe it only recently changed so you can't act like that.. Plus you have to be in education till 18 yes but that includes apprenticeships which isn't school etc.

It's still school, and it's still free.

Oh, and I'm well acquainted with the system by the way.

It is free, absolutely. Doesn't mean it is school, it is in the name "sixth form college".
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Postby Free South Califas » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:44 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Kouralia wrote:They're lead by a Doctor.

Their identity is supposed to be secret, how do you know of this information whose accuracy I can not comment on, senator?

Byzantium Imperial wrote:So is my group of scentists saying Pirates cause global cooling. Can you just take my word for it?

You wouldn't have contact with secret group of scientists. Only original minister of science and potential minister of science candidates have access to them, so no.

Ministry of Science and Religion Act
Author: Saul Califas [C] | Co-Sponsors:


The Aurentine Senate,

APOLOGISING in advance for its apologia,

RECONSIDERING the whole secular state thing in a non-binding sort of way,

DECIDING that the Minister of Science...wait, what? This coalition wants a Minister of Science? :palm: This wasn't covered by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy?

It's not the best law I've ever written, but I'm sort of constrained without repealing SSA.
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Postby Fulflood » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:44 pm

Great Nepal wrote:

Secondary school incorporates Key Stage 3 and Key Stage 4 of the National Curriculum (Year Seven to Year Eleven) and can also include sixth form.

Year 11 wrote:incorporates students aged between fifteen and seventeen

It may include sixth form (16/17 to 18/19) but it doesn't have to.

Thanks for informing me on my education; it confused me that I ha(d/ve) to go to a different school when aged 16 (I was under the impression that despite it being a different building miles away, it is still the same school); glad you've cleared that up.

Sarcasm over. So some people in the UK (e.g. Britcan) call it school, and legally, they're still schools (prove otherwise).
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:47 pm

Oneracon wrote:As author of the Proxy Voting Act, I approve the proofreader's change.

I further move to separate (de-omnibus?) the Impartial Polling Places Act from the Anti Corruption Omnibus, and omnibus the Proxy Voting Act and Impartial Polling Places Act into an Election Standards Omnibus.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Thirded.

Fourth


Any more? :meh:
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Postby Valentir » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:48 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Oneracon wrote:As author of the Proxy Voting Act, I approve the proofreader's change.

I further move to separate (de-omnibus?) the Impartial Polling Places Act from the Anti Corruption Omnibus, and omnibus the Proxy Voting Act and Impartial Polling Places Act into an Election Standards Omnibus.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Fourth


Any more? :meh:

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Postby Agritum » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:48 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Then it's not piracy, because the pirates aren't criminals any more.

pi·ra·cy
/ˈpīrəsē/
Noun
The practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea.


Its still piracy even if legal

Pirates were NEVER raiders or criminals. Such a reputation is only the fruit of a smear campaign made by the Catholic Church against them, loyal and peaceful worshippers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

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Postby Free South Califas » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:49 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:The internet alllows us to watch for free guys. Why bother spending government money on it?

Because that could be seen as... something. If the other option is, as you say it, pirate it, then...

Kouralia wrote:
i Theft: Theft is determined as the unlawful and non-consensual acquisition of property through means other than guile. It is a Delict.
Kouralia wrote:
Complicity in... refers to knowledge of a crime prior to it being committed, and not taking action to prevent it. It carries the same punishment as the crime, but cannot be a Felony.


[/ShakeyLegalGround]

I thought intellectual property wasn't defined?

Rumostan wrote:the ATN will always be rich enough
This is simply not true. They've suspended advertising and are majority worker owned. They're not about to get more profiteering. In fact, the current holders plan to make it more socialistic and less capitalistic.

Kouralia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Cant you simply take my word that they are very credible group of scientists?

They're lead by a Doctor.

i LOLd.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Oh i assure you, one of them has a phd in something, and they are accredited, by someone.
They are a private team i hired from some country. So anyway, back to the enviromental legislation im proposing...

Senator, I am pleased to see such strong support for the cause of environmental preservation from you. It is clearly time to legalize piracy.

Kouralia wrote:
Ranbo wrote:Perhaps we could establish our own band of Privateers?

Hostis humani generis

Huh.

You know, I've always been an environmentalist, and I'm very interested in prison reform and (ultimately) abolition. Perhaps there's a way to combine these goals after all.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Fulflood wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:

It may include sixth form (16/17 to 18/19) but it doesn't have to.

Thanks for informing me on my education; it confused me that I ha(d/ve) to go to a different school when aged 16 (I was under the impression that despite it being a different building miles away, it is still the same school); glad you've cleared that up.

Sarcasm over. So some people in the UK (e.g. Britcan) call it school, and legally, they're still schools (prove otherwise).
+in Germany, the US, loads of other places.

(ooc: I am going to sixth form right now and it is called college. Here are list of sixth forms here: Barnet college, Harrow College, Bellerbys College, Cardiff sixth form college, guess what they have in common)
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:51 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Their identity is supposed to be secret, how do you know of this information whose accuracy I can not comment on, senator?


You wouldn't have contact with secret group of scientists. Only original minister of science and potential minister of science candidates have access to them, so no.

Ministry of Science and Religion Act
Author: Saul Califas [C] | Co-Sponsors:


The Aurentine Senate,

APOLOGISING in advance for its apologia,

RECONSIDERING the whole secular state thing in a non-binding sort of way,

DECIDING that the Minister of Science...wait, what? This coalition wants a Minister of Science? :palm: This wasn't covered by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy?

It's not the best law I've ever written, but I'm sort of constrained without repealing SSA.

I think the simple solution is to do as follows:
Global Warming Prevention act
Author: Alexander Paliaologos [NIFP] | Co-Sponsors:


SECTION 1: DEFINITIONS
pi·ra·cy
/ˈpīrəsē/
Noun
The practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea.

SECTION 2: THE BILL
REALIZING that global warming is an immenent threat to our nation that will submerge us under the ocean

UNDERSTANDING that many proposals to reduce carbon emmisions are expensive and restrict industrial development

CONSIDERS that while global temperatures have been rising steadily for the past two centuries, while the number of high seas pirates have been falling

CONCLUDING that pirates contribute to global cooling

HEREBY legalizes Piracy, and annuls the sections of any treaties or current laws we have that prohibits piracy


This is my first crack at enviromentalism
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Postby Rumostan » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:51 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Because that could be seen as... something. If the other option is, as you say it, pirate it, then...



[/ShakeyLegalGround]

I thought intellectual property wasn't defined?

Rumostan wrote:the ATN will always be rich enough
This is simply not true. They've suspended advertising and are majority worker owned. They're not about to get more profiteering. In fact, the current holders plan to make it more socialistic and less capitalistic.

Kouralia wrote:They're lead by a Doctor.

i LOLd.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Oh i assure you, one of them has a phd in something, and they are accredited, by someone.
They are a private team i hired from some country. So anyway, back to the enviromental legislation im proposing...

Senator, I am pleased to see such strong support for the cause of environmental preservation from you. It is clearly time to legalize piracy.

Kouralia wrote:Hostis humani generis

Huh.

You know, I've always been an environmentalist, and I'm very interested in prison reform and (ultimately) abolition. Perhaps there's a way to combine these goals after all.


Not true, the ATN is earning more money than ever, Senator, please check your facts before saying such ludicrous things.
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Postby Ainin » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:52 pm

Great Nepal wrote:guess what they have in common

Terrible names? ;)
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Postby Fulflood » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:52 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Fulflood wrote:Thanks for informing me on my education; it confused me that I ha(d/ve) to go to a different school when aged 16 (I was under the impression that despite it being a different building miles away, it is still the same school); glad you've cleared that up.

Sarcasm over. So some people in the UK (e.g. Britcan) call it school, and legally, they're still schools (prove otherwise).
+in Germany, the US, loads of other places.

(ooc: I am going to sixth form right now and it is called college. Here are list of sixth forms here: Barnet college, Harrow College, Bellerbys College, Cardiff sixth form college, guess what they have in common)

They're all free?
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:52 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Their identity is supposed to be secret, how do you know of this information whose accuracy I can not comment on, senator?


You wouldn't have contact with secret group of scientists. Only original minister of science and potential minister of science candidates have access to them, so no.

Ministry of Science and Religion Act
Author: Saul Califas [C] | Co-Sponsors:


The Aurentine Senate,

APOLOGISING in advance for its apologia,

RECONSIDERING the whole secular state thing in a non-binding sort of way,

DECIDING that the Minister of Science...wait, what? This coalition wants a Minister of Science? :palm: This wasn't covered by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy?

It's not the best law I've ever written, but I'm sort of constrained without repealing SSA.

Why do we need a Ministry of Religion? The government won't be legislating on it much.
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Postby Ainin » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:52 pm

Rumostan wrote:Not true, the ATN is earning more money than ever, Senator, please check your facts before saying such ludicrous things.

You should check yours.

ATN is currently barely making a revenue.
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Postby Gothmogs » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:53 pm

If we are debating the national symbols act still, I motion to change the national reptile from the European Adder to a reptile that actually lives in Aurentina. (Second link)
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:53 pm

Fulflood wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:(ooc: I am going to sixth form right now and it is called college. Here are list of sixth forms here: Barnet college, Harrow College, Bellerbys College, Cardiff sixth form college, guess what they have in common)

They're all free?

Not last one but, as I said several times it is free in UK however it is a college education not school education.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:53 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Fulflood wrote:It's still school, and it's still free.

Oh, and I'm well acquainted with the system by the way.

It is free, absolutely. Doesn't mean it is school, it is in the name "sixth form college".

That's still a school.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:54 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:I think the simple solution is to do as follows:
Global Warming Prevention act
Author: Alexander Paliaologos [NIFP] | Co-Sponsors:


SECTION 1: DEFINITIONS
pi·ra·cy
/ˈpīrəsē/
Noun
The practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea.

SECTION 2: THE BILL
REALIZING that global warming is an immenent threat to our nation that will submerge us under the ocean

UNDERSTANDING that many proposals to reduce carbon emmisions are expensive and restrict industrial development

CONSIDERS that while global temperatures have been rising steadily for the past two centuries, while the number of high seas pirates have been falling

CONCLUDING that pirates contribute to global cooling

HEREBY legalizes Piracy, and annuls the sections of any treaties or current laws we have that prohibits piracy


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Postby Valentir » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:54 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Free South Califas wrote:
Ministry of Science and Religion Act
Author: Saul Califas [C] | Co-Sponsors:


The Aurentine Senate,

APOLOGISING in advance for its apologia,

RECONSIDERING the whole secular state thing in a non-binding sort of way,

DECIDING that the Minister of Science...wait, what? This coalition wants a Minister of Science? :palm: This wasn't covered by the Ministry of Research and Astronomy?

It's not the best law I've ever written, but I'm sort of constrained without repealing SSA.

Why do we need a Ministry of Religion? The government won't be legislating on it much.

Who is proposing a Minister of Religion? Don' t we have Freedom of and From Religion?

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Postby Fulflood » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:58 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Fulflood wrote:They're all free?

Not last one but, as I said several times it is free in UK however it is a college education not school education.

Nope.
Kent.
Lincolnshire.
Berkshire.

And from FSC's perspective (US), it's high school. Also, what something is called doesn't define what it is under law (there's a secondary with College in its name round here, doesn't mean it's not a secondary school).
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Postby Rumostan » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:59 pm

Ainin wrote:
Rumostan wrote:Not true, the ATN is earning more money than ever, Senator, please check your facts before saying such ludicrous things.

You should check yours.

ATN is currently barely making a revenue.


It is making a revenue and will make a revenue, when a buisness makes a change, it will always experience a dip. I have complete trust that it will be making more than enough revenue.
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Postby Agritum » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:01 pm

Valentir wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Why do we need a Ministry of Religion? The government won't be legislating on it much.

Who is proposing a Minister of Religion? Don' t we have Freedom of and From Religion?

I'll propose a Ministry of Irreligion, at this point.

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