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Postby Yanalia » Mon May 27, 2013 12:58 pm

We need to omnibus some of these.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Mon May 27, 2013 1:01 pm

LLA V1


LLA V2

These are the two versions i found, no idea of there is a difference. Which goes in queue?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Mon May 27, 2013 1:21 pm

Yanalia wrote:We need to omnibus some of these.

I agree (we are turning out 2 laws a day, when we can only vote on 1 every 2 days)
I have some ideas on possible omnibuses:

The most important one would be the LLA, second constitution, senatorial supremacy, and the responsible government act. I put them together as they are all directly effecting how the senate operates.

Universal healthcare and Public education, while vastly different, do fall under similar legislative categories, so they could be omnibussed

Obviously the two energy bills can be omnibussed

Copyright act, agriculture act (?), financial act, and the small buisness act could be omnibusses as they all deal with the economy.

These are just my ideas to cut down on the backlog a bit after the current vote is over.
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Postby Ainin » Mon May 27, 2013 1:27 pm

Yanalia wrote:We need to omnibus some of these.

The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act should be omnibused as the Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.
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Postby Venaleria » Mon May 27, 2013 1:29 pm

Ainin wrote:
Yanalia wrote:We need to omnibus some of these.

The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act should be omnibused as the Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.


Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.
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Postby Ainin » Mon May 27, 2013 1:30 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Ainin wrote:The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act should be omnibused as the Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.


Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.

Seconded.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Mon May 27, 2013 1:31 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Ainin wrote:The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act should be omnibused as the Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.


Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.

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Postby Great Nepal » Mon May 27, 2013 1:31 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Ainin wrote:The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act should be omnibused as the Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.


Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.

The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act have nothing in common except they both have mention of astronauts in the passing.
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Postby Yanalia » Mon May 27, 2013 1:31 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.

Second


Fourthed.
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Postby Ainin » Mon May 27, 2013 1:32 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.

The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act have nothing in common except they both have mention of astronauts in the passing.

They both relate to the MoRA, which is plenty common ground for an omnibus.
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Postby The IASM » Mon May 27, 2013 1:32 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Agreed. We just don't need a list this long.

I move to combine The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act into an omnibus, The Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act.

The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act have nothing in common except they both have mention of astronauts in the passing.

Seconded.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon May 27, 2013 1:32 pm

Ainin wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:The National Extraterrestrial Act and Research and Astronomy Improvement Act have nothing in common except they both have mention of astronauts in the passing.

They both relate to the MoRA, which is plenty common ground for an omnibus.

All of the bills in queue relate to the world. Should we omnibus all of them into one super-bill?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Mon May 27, 2013 1:33 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Second


Fourthed.

You mean third?

I also move to Omnibus the Energy for the future act and the Electricity production act into the Energy and Power act
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Postby Ainin » Mon May 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Fourthed.

You mean third?

I also move to Omnibus the Energy for the future act and the Electricity production act into the Energy and Power act

He said fourth because you were third, not second.
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Postby Yanalia » Mon May 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Fourthed.

You mean third?

I also move to Omnibus the Energy for the future act and the Electricity production act into the Energy and Power act


Seconded.

And the MoRA bus has been fifthed by this point. We still need seventh and admin though.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Mon May 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Ainin wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:You mean third?

I also move to Omnibus the Energy for the future act and the Electricity production act into the Energy and Power act

He said fourth because you were third, not second.

Sorry missed your post
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Postby Venaleria » Mon May 27, 2013 1:38 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Fourthed.

You mean third?

I also move to Omnibus the Energy for the future act and the Electricity production act into the Energy and Power act


Thirded
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon May 27, 2013 1:39 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:You mean third?

I also move to Omnibus the Energy for the future act and the Electricity production act into the Energy and Power act


Thirded

Now those are the bills we should omnibiusing. Fourth.
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Postby Yanalia » Mon May 27, 2013 1:40 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Thirded

Now those are the bills we should omnibiusing. Fourth.


Weren't you the one who wanted us to vote on every bill at once? Essentially 1 bus for everything?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon May 27, 2013 1:41 pm

Fifthed on the Energy Omnibus, and admin approval granted there.

Sixthed on the MoRA Omnibus, and admin approval there.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon May 27, 2013 1:41 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Now those are the bills we should omnibiusing. Fourth.


Weren't you the one who wanted us to vote on every bill at once? Essentially 1 bus for everything?

As a joke to see how much of the mess it would cause trail run, yes.
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Postby Othelos » Mon May 27, 2013 2:25 pm

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Othelos wrote:As this bill has the appropriate number of co-sponsors and every necessary edit has been made, I move to add it to the queue.

Second Constitution of the Senate

Drafted by Othelos (PC)

Co-Sponsors: Byzantium Imperial (NIFP), Venaleria (RG), Yanalia (RG), The Realm of God (PC), Mishmahig (TR), Maklohi Vai (LD)


Noting that the current constitution includes confusing and awkward wording,

Understanding that the current constitution is inefficient and disorganized,

Hereby repeals the current constitution of the Senate and replaces it with this one.

Powers of the Senate and its Members

1. Each Senator shall have the ability to draft legislation such as this.
2. Each Senator shall have the ability to vote on drafted legislation in the chamber.
3. The Senate shall have the ability to repeal passed legislation, with a majority vote in favor.
4. The Senate shall have the ability to regulate the total quantity of seats available in the senate, with a majority vote in favor.
5. Each Senator shall have the ability to create a political party.
6. The Senate shall have the ability to elect a President of the Senate, with a plurality or majority in favor, depending on the current requirements.
7. Parties in the minority shall have the ability to jointly create an opposition. The opposition shall have the ability to select an opposition leader and second officer.
8. The Senate shall have the ability to eject unruly members of the Senate with a 90% majority vote in favor, or through unanimous administrative action.
9. The Senate shall have the ability to amend this constitution, with a two thirds majority vote in favor.

Legislation and Other Requirements

1. A queue of legislation to be voted upon shall be established, which shall include all legislation drafted and approved by five Senators in chronological order.
2. A majority shall be defined as 50%+1 votes, unless mentioned otherwise in a specific section, and legislation may only pass with a majority in favor.
3. Only one bill may be voted on at a time in the chamber. This may be overridden if seven Senators move for similar bills to be placed up for vote at the same time and an administrator approves. Bills up for vote at the same time may be individually voted upon. Combined bills shall be called an omnibus bill.
4. The layout of legislation should mimic this one.
5. 48 hours must elapse before a bill is passed or rejected. This excludes cases when, after 24 hours, 90% of votes or more are in favor or opposed to a bill. In order for the voting period to end early, five Senators must move to end the voting period early, with administrator approval.

Do we need to motion for that? If so, I'l second.

Anyone want to third??

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Postby Yanalia » Mon May 27, 2013 2:30 pm

Othelos wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Do we need to motion for that? If so, I'l second.

Anyone want to third??


I thought if it had sufficient sponsor it was added automatically?

I third if this is not the case.
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Postby Othelos » Mon May 27, 2013 2:32 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Othelos wrote:Anyone want to third??


I thought if it had sufficient sponsor it was added automatically?

I third if this is not the case.

I've been pretty busy lately, so I must've missed that change. I'll ask Tre to add it to the queue.
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Postby Venaleria » Mon May 27, 2013 2:33 pm

Othelos wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
I thought if it had sufficient sponsor it was added automatically?

I third if this is not the case.

I've been pretty busy lately, so I must've missed that change. I'll ask Tre to add it to the queue.


The rules currently are that if a bill has enough support it's good to add to the queue (I think). And, already done.
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